Do bets count as rollover if they push?

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  • dynamite140
    SBR MVP
    • 07-05-08
    • 4958

    #1
    Do bets count as rollover if they push?
    Does anyone know? Is it the same with matchbook, 5dimes, BetJamaica and bodog and the rest of the books?
  • Hareeba!
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-01-06
    • 37282

    #2
    Originally posted by dynamite140
    Does anyone know? Is it the same with matchbook, 5dimes, BetJamaica and bodog and the rest of the books?
    I would expect the answer is no in the majority of cases but never assume the normal rules apply across the board
    always check the rules of the book you're playing at
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    • sq764
      SBR MVP
      • 04-17-07
      • 1026

      #3
      its a graded wager, why wouldnt it?
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      • warriorfan707
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-29-08
        • 13698

        #4
        Absolutely and don't let them tell you different
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        • Kaabee
          SBR MVP
          • 01-21-06
          • 2482

          #5
          i doubt any of the top books would not count it
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          • Hareeba!
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-01-06
            • 37282

            #6
            I have rarely taken bonuses and had to comply with rollovers. Not for quite a while anyway. But I'm pretty sure I recall that when I last did the rules generally excluded pushes and retirements from counting towards the rollover as they also did for very short priced wagers.

            Always check the applicable rules pertaining to bonuses at the book you are playing.
            Don't assume the "norm".
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            • peeiempee
              SBR MVP
              • 01-21-09
              • 2750

              #7
              One quick simple answer, usually not, but it depends on the book. It will be in the rules and regulation section of the book.
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              • Hareeba!
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-01-06
                • 37282

                #8
                Originally posted by Kaabee
                i doubt any of the top books would not count it
                the top books don't have bonuses and rollover requirements
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                • jackkkk2009
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-13-09
                  • 1183

                  #9
                  sportsbook.com family group counts
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kaabee
                    i doubt any of the top books would not count it

                    I guess BETPHOENIX is not a top book then.
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                      the top books don't have bonuses and rollover requirements
                      Really?

                      So Heritage, TheGreek, 5DIMES, Legends, and BetJam are not top books.......in your mind?
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                      • Poster X
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 07-09-10
                        • 236

                        #12
                        most places yes
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                        • Poster X
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-09-10
                          • 236

                          #13
                          fishhead is vey sinnacle
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                          • Poster X
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 07-09-10
                            • 236

                            #14
                            very
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                            • teetime
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 07-26-10
                              • 5

                              #15
                              i am terrible sorry ,i dont know.
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                              • magynuck
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-17-09
                                • 891

                                #16
                                most yes
                                some no
                                read rules and clarify going in so you are not surprised
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                                • ncat12
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-24-09
                                  • 1170

                                  #17
                                  all in the small print I suppose
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                                  • Hareeba!
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 37282

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                                    Really?

                                    So Heritage, TheGreek, 5DIMES, Legends, and BetJam are not top books.......in your mind?
                                    correct

                                    I do play a little at Greek but could readily live without them
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                                    • bigugly
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-08
                                      • 1329

                                      #19
                                      If I managed a book I wouldn't count pushes. Some wagers have high push frequencies. If I'm giving a bonus I expect to collect juice on one side or the other.

                                      Why does everyone have such a problem rolling over? You either are A) Betting with money you need to withdraw soon for rent or B) Deposited way too much relative to your bet size

                                      I'm sure there are other reasons, but I just don't get why so many people have this problem.
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                                      • stikymess
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-19-10
                                        • 3288

                                        #20
                                        I think it should since the money was "in play" that being said it's their book so their rules.
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                                        • SpiderMonkey
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 08-30-09
                                          • 552

                                          #21
                                          yes at Heritage
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