how ridiculous is Betphoenix and their "smart guy" Richard

[moonbeam]

They can´t pay via moneybookers.

Now they cut my limits down to $ 100 for NO reason

Are they the US branch of bet365?

[vitalyo]

Are they the US branch of bet365?

LOL .

[RichardGeorge]

I won about 2k on a soccer game on their sister book, BetMania, and they cut my limits to 100.... they said americans shouldn't win in soccer......

[big joe 1212]

[michael777]

how about 3 weeks for a payout by check,and i'm still waiting

[tltaylor89]

lol 3 weeks for a check.

[philswin]

Watch out for Richard was previously at Cascade not the most honest guy

[Chuck Sims]

I realize Bet Phoenix pays for their B+ rating but at some point SBR is going to have to downgrade these bums.

[THEGREAT30]

I have no issues but I also have limited experiences, good day

[dark star]

No problems on my end...but what do I know

[jboy4]

how about 3 weeks for a payout by check,and i'm still waiting

UNACCEPTABLE

[Justin7]

Watch out for Richard was previously at Cascade not the most honest guy

Do you know a specific fact suggesting he is dishonest? If so, please share. I do not know of a single instance of Richard behaving dishonorably at any shop.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Richard has been very honorable so far. Very generous guy IMO.

[creed]

One note Richard is not dishonest very helpfull person

[Climate]

They can´t pay via moneybookers.

Now they cut my limits down to $ 100 for NO reason

Are they the US branch of bet365?

For no reason? Hard to believe.

They don't make money cutting down people to $100.

We need a little history on your betting at BP please.

[peeiempee]

So far betphoenix has been great. I lost about 5gs, requested a payout of remaining 2500gs. I got it within 1 week. Redeposited after Christmas and so far I have won about 9gs from them. Chased plays like crazy. 2000gs here, 1500gs there and I am still at max limits. Now I'm not sure if they will pay out in a timely manner, but I will be requesting a withdrawl soon so we shall see...

[thirtytwo]

They can´t pay via moneybookers.

Now they cut my limits down to $ 100 for NO reason

Are they the US branch of bet365?

You mean they dont pay via MB at all or its just some sort of temporary problem?

I wanted to order another free play but if theres not MB withdrawals its gonna be useless for me...

[sportscash]

You mean they dont pay via MB at all or its just some sort of temporary problem?

I wanted to order another free play but if theres not MB withdrawals its gonna be useless for me...

Same here has any one else having problems withdrawing with moneybookers.

[TheRealMoney]

Hey,

I Have been playing with Phoenix for few months now and I have been winning. I have request my payout last week by check and have not receive it yet. They are really slow!!! If you do ** will take about 4 days!!! Very bad.

As for the limits, I play with betonline and won lot of money, they cut my limit to $5 LOL. But they payout is fast! and I got all my money out. You can bannk wire up to ~10k/payout. LOL

They can´t pay via moneybookers.

Now they cut my limits down to $ 100 for NO reason

Are they the US branch of bet365?

[Rollins08]

With all the negative comments its amazing they`re rayed so high. It looks like nobody is reading these complaints.

[djefferis]

Wasn't Richard director of marketing for sportsbook.com or betus.com ? He was upfront about this when he came in, so don't buy the dishonesty bit..stand up guy.

Been paid several times by BP, just reupped for a nickle..nice shop.

[HedgeHog]

Richard is a good guy. However, I wish his Book would resume transfers with MatchBook.

[BET THE HOOK]

Richard is a good guy but the book will screw you eventually like they have every other cheerleader they have. I was their biggest fan until they dumped on me.

[JohnnyC]

Richard is a good guy but the book will screw you eventually like they have every other cheerleader they have. I was their biggest fan until they dumped on me.

Did they pay you? If so then you should not be bad mouthing them

They need to fix these slow/no e-wallet pay problems.

[patswin]

they are having problems with checks, ask for other methods they are accomodating

[gangeriver]

how about 3 weeks for a payout by check,and i'm still waiting

probably his turtle choked by Carribean Sea water

I won about 2k on a soccer game on their sister book, BetMania, and they cut my limits to 100.... they said americans shouldn't win in soccer......

and they said europans sholdn't earn bonus.they don't offer his bonus program to us

coward book!

[Toit]

You mean they dont pay via MB at all or its just some sort of temporary problem?

I wanted to order another free play but if theres not MB withdrawals its gonna be useless for me...

For what it's worth, I received a Moneybookers payout last week, took 7 days as promised.

[jackkkk2009]

and deposit is limited to $150 via ***. They don't deserve to be rated B+, should be C+.

[jackkkk2009]

I won about 2k on a soccer game on their sister book, BetMania, and they cut my limits to 100.... they said americans shouldn't win in soccer......

why Americans shouldn't win in Soccer? that's so rediculious....

[jackkkk2009]

SBR should lower their ratings

[JUST A MAN]

Richard is a good guy. The other workers underneath him are starting to slack.

Betjamaica is the only A+ I personally know.

Betpohoenix is not an A book. They are a B at best. Only because your money is good with them. Software is not too sharp.

[JoeVig]

Richard is a good guy. However, I wish his Book would resume transfers with MatchBook.

Ditto, and other majors like Cris and Greek.

[philswin]

When Richard was at Cascade (A book that ripped off a lot of people including me) When I originally deposited I asked to speak to someone because i had questions about the book. I was transferred to Richard. I asked him numerous question all of which he answered to my satisfaction (ie stability of book, payout timeframes, etc). I made a deposit. It was only months later when they would not pay that I found out that when I talked to Richard was right at the same time they stopped paying people.Not very honest!!!!

[Justin7]

When Richard was at Cascade (A book that ripped off a lot of people including me) When I originally deposited I asked to speak to someone because i had questions about the book. I was transferred to Richard. I asked him numerous question all of which he answered to my satisfaction (ie stability of book, payout timeframes, etc). I made a deposit. It was only months later when they would not pay that I found out that when I talked to Richard was right at the same time they stopped paying people.Not very honest!!!!

Betcascade was backed by Del Mar when it got its high rating (and when Richard was there). When Del Mar backed out, cascade gradually went to shit.

I do not know the exact timeline of when Richard was there and when Cascade sucked out... But I don't have any info suggesting Richard was promoting Cascade after they stopped paying. If you know something to the contrary, please share.

[trixtrix]

Betcascade was backed by Del Mar when it got its high rating (and when Richard was there). When Del Mar backed out, cascade gradually went to shit.

I do not know the exact timeline of when Richard was there and when Cascade sucked out... But I don't have any info suggesting Richard was promoting Cascade after they stopped paying. If you know something to the contrary, please share.

incidentally i don't see a rating in the ratings book for del mar (www.delmarsportsbook.com), why is this?