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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #36
    Originally posted by katstale
    While we are putting our x-mas wish list together--how abt a couple of ewallets? Moneybookers and Neteller to start?


    Well maybe by Christmas we will see it.
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    • betphoenix
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-24-07
      • 244

      #37
      Originally posted by katstale
      While we are putting our x-mas wish list together--how abt a couple of ewallets? Moneybookers and Neteller to start?
      Moneybookers + Neteller will be up after we move....
      BetPhoenix - Join here
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      • katstale
        SBR MVP
        • 02-07-07
        • 3924

        #38
        Originally posted by betphoenix
        Moneybookers + Neteller will be up after we move....
        You guys are doing all the right things. Glad to see you don't shy away from "professionals". Look forward to being a customer after the move.
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        • bigboydan
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-10-05
          • 55420

          #39
          Even though I understand your thoughts on this rule, I don't agree with it.

          7) Non-Recreational players (as determined by Management) will have greater rollover requirements placed on their account.
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          • betphoenix
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-24-07
            • 244

            #40
            Originally posted by bigboydan
            Even though I understand your thoughts on this rule, I don't agree with it.
            Hello Biboydan,
            So far, we have do not enforce that rule, except couple accounts open just for bonus (win then withdraw, open new account -> get bonus), and fake referral accounts. Beside that we only have 4x rollover.

            Thanks,
            Betphoenix
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #41
              Yes, "The bonus abuser rule".

              Is their a sliding scale on this or is it a set criteria in place? If their is a set rule in place what would it be?

              I'm not a bonus abuser at all, but I am curious of the answer in case a dispute might arise at some point later down the road.


              Also, By any chance do you have a mirror site?
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              • betphoenix
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-24-07
                • 244

                #42
                + Winning account: No Bonus
                + If you withdraw: e.g: $1500, you have to deposit more than that amount (more than $1500) to receive bonus (on losing account), if winning account, still no bonus.
                + Fake referral account: no bonus (20% FP up to $500 on first deposit, require at least 2 weeks action , 4x roll over or the referral account lost all the money )
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                • betphoenix
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-24-07
                  • 244

                  #43
                  Originally posted by bigboydan
                  Also, By any chance do you have a mirror site?
                  Yes, we do, but it's our sister site, they do not accept US customers.
                  BetPhoenix - Join here
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                  • bigboydan
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 55420

                    #44
                    One last question for you while your here.

                    Do you have a mirror or alternate site in case the main site is down. If so what is it?
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #45
                      Originally posted by betphoenix
                      Yes, we do, but it's our sister site, they do not accept US customers.
                      Disregard my message above.

                      Thanks for the info
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                      • pico
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 04-05-07
                        • 27321

                        #46
                        just checked out the site. can't find any lines. i think i'll stick with pinny.

                        i do see they have a lot of vietnamese and chinese gamblers (language option)...i didn't know they bet american sports. i always thought the asians like to bet soccer and play baccarat.
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                        • betphoenix
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-24-07
                          • 244

                          #47
                          Originally posted by picoman
                          just checked out the site. can't find any lines. i think i'll stick with pinny.

                          i do see they have a lot of vietnamese and chinese gamblers (language option)...i didn't know they bet american sports. i always thought the asians like to bet soccer and play baccarat.
                          Hello Picoman
                          You can check our lines here: http::///betphoenix..com//live..bp

                          And yes, asian bet on everything . And for soccer we also offer asian handicap, and for our new coming up website, we also offer quarter goal for soccer.
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                          • pico
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-05-07
                            • 27321

                            #48
                            Originally posted by betphoenix
                            Hello Picoman
                            You can check our lines here: http::///betphoenix..com//live..bp

                            And yes, asian bet on everything . And for soccer we also offer asian handicap, and for our new coming up website, we also offer quarter goal for soccer.
                            thanks

                            can you bet the limit wait til the line change and bet again like pinnacle?
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                            • JC
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-23-05
                              • 481

                              #49
                              Originally posted by betphoenix
                              Betphoenix is backed by Diamond. We are a separate entity.
                              What does that mean?

                              Cascade was backed by Skybook, until they weren't.

                              What does it mean to be "Backed?" Have they actually given you a bank roll you hold to play with, or are they just there as a source of funds of last resort? Have they put up the operating capital?

                              I'd really like someone to spell it out for me. I have heard it for years.
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                              • betphoenix
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-24-07
                                • 244

                                #50
                                Originally posted by picoman
                                thanks

                                can you bet the limit wait til the line change and bet again like pinnacle?
                                Hello Picoman,
                                Yes you can.
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                                • pico
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-05-07
                                  • 27321

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by betphoenix
                                  Hello Picoman,
                                  Yes you can.
                                  high limit low juice...backed by a reputable book. sounds good to me.

                                  can you open accounts in sterilings or euros?

                                  which books do you do book to book transfer to? is there a fee?
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                                  • betphoenix
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-24-07
                                    • 244

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by JC
                                    What does that mean?

                                    Cascade was backed by Del Mar, until they weren't.

                                    What does it mean to be "Backed?" Have they actually given you a bank roll you hold to play with, or are they just there as a source of funds of last resort? Have they put up the operating capital?

                                    I'd really like someone to spell it out for me. I have heard it for years.
                                    Hello JC,
                                    Owner of BetDsi is one of the owners of BetPhoenix.
                                    BetPhoenix - Join here
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                                    • betphoenix
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 10-24-07
                                      • 244

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by picoman
                                      high limit low juice...backed by a reputable book. sounds good to me.

                                      can you open accounts in sterilings or euros?

                                      which books do you do book to book transfer to? is there a fee?
                                      Hello Picoman,

                                      Our sister book accepts sterling, eurp

                                      We are working on book to book transfer, please PM me the name of the book, I will try to get more info on that.

                                      Thanks,
                                      Betphoenix
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                                      • bigboydan
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 55420

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by betphoenix
                                        We are working on book to book transfer

                                        Any idea when that plan might be in place though?
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                                        • pico
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 04-05-07
                                          • 27321

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by bigboydan
                                          Any idea when that plan might be in place though?
                                          the dude said, he'll get back to me next week. i won't bet in any books that are not recognized by pinny or oly. that is a pretty good rule of thumb of not getting stiffed, imo.
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                                          • bigboydan
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 55420

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by picoman
                                            the dude said, he'll get back to me next week. i won't bet in any books that are not recognized by pinny or oly. that is a pretty good rule of thumb of not getting stiffed, imo.
                                            Usually it is Pico. However if I remember correctly didn't Cascade also do book-2-book transfers with Pinnacle in the past. I mean look what happen to there. I guess my point is nothing is deemed safe in this industry.
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                                            • pico
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 04-05-07
                                              • 27321

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by bigboydan
                                              Usually it is Pico. However if I remember correctly didn't Cascade also do book-2-book transfers with Pinnacle in the past. I mean look what happen to there. I guess my point is nothing is deemed safe in this industry.
                                              if you do regular book to book transfers, then you'll know something is up when your interbook transfer does not go through in 30 minutes. that is ahead of those fedex checks, ach , neteller etc. so you get a early warning signal when something bad is about to happen. hopefully that'll give you enough time to quietly get all your money out before the public realize the book is going under.
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                                              • moses millsap
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-25-05
                                                • 8289

                                                #58
                                                Intriguing, but need more time for BP to establish themselves.
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                                                • bigboydan
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 55420

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by OWNED
                                                  Intriguing, but need more time for BP to establish themselves.
                                                  I think thats basically the bottom line Owned.
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                                                  • bigboydan
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 55420

                                                    #60
                                                    I really would have thought they would have had much better Tennis odds than they do. The drops on them seem to be worse than even TheGreek.
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                                                    • katstale
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-07-07
                                                      • 3924

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by betphoenix
                                                      Moneybookers + Neteller will be up after we move....

                                                      How about an update? Has the move happened? How about the new software? Anxious to give you guys a try once all this is completed.
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                                                      • katstale
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-07
                                                        • 3924

                                                        #62
                                                        BUMP

                                                        Anybody playing here? Any news?
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                                                        • Dark Horse
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-14-05
                                                          • 13764

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by katstale
                                                          BUMP

                                                          Anybody playing here? Any news?
                                                          Yes, plenty of news. They've expanded, and added a number of turnkeys (Sports-1, Mania, Wagerchief). They became a sponsor here at SBR, were added to SBRodds, and were responsive to requests on this forum. Payouts were fast. The only notable negative was an outage of several days in the second half of November '09. Other than that, no complaints. To be continued.
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                                                          • gman2114
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-20-09
                                                            • 418

                                                            #64
                                                            why do they allow so many skins. hurts the overall site to me.
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                                                            • lacoste
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-18-09
                                                              • 203

                                                              #65
                                                              Hy. How are the limits ? They cut your limit fast? i ask , because i intend to make an account .
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                                                              • 20Four7
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-08-07
                                                                • 6703

                                                                #66
                                                                Not if you lose, they put out some weak lines but lately you've gotten hammered by hitting them up.
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                                                                • lacoste
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 11-18-09
                                                                  • 203

                                                                  #67
                                                                  And if you win , what is the limit 100euro max or lower?

                                                                  P.S. However pinnacle is no.1, they don't care if you win.
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                                                                  • Fishhead
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                                    • 40179

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Their bonuses are hard to turn down.
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                                                                    • GELATINOUS CUBE
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-09-09
                                                                      • 4534

                                                                      #69
                                                                      I just signed up with betpheonix.

                                                                      They are just fine, so far. They have all the regular stuff plus a lot of team totals bets and quarter bets, etc.
                                                                      blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                                                                      mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                                                                      gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                                                                      overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                                                                      • mminkovski
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-22-07
                                                                        • 1077

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Did you get 100% free play?
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