[bistarn]

I have just submitted an SBR complaint about this, and the details are as follows:

I registered with 22Bet.com on 12/06/2018 and I made two £200.00 deposits the same day. I then placed a total of over 750 bets with 22Bet.com over the next 6 weeks, and by 13/07/2018 I had ran my balance up to £21,137.74 and I had requested a withdrawal of my full balance, and I was asked for documents, all of which I sent to them, and then after sending them all of the required documents, they e-mailed me on 25/07/2018 saying they are closing my account and confiscating my winnings and only refunding my deposits, bringing my balance from £21,137.74 down to £400.00. This is the e-mail they sent to me:

"Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by:
-bet cancellation;
-closure of the customer’s account with the balance being refunded;
-filing a claim to a law-enforcement agency.
Effective as of 1 January 2011
The decision was made after rigorous investigation of the case by The Security Department.
We ask you not to create gaming accounts with The Company. Please, notice, that all the accounts created again in the system will be closed,bets will be annulled, deposited funds will be in hold and used on the expenses related with the investigation and blocking.
Due to the fact that your actions have been recognized as flagrant violation of The T&Cs of our Company, the decision of stopping any cooperation with you was final and not subject to further appeal.
All further questions concerning the case of blocking from your side will be ignored.
You can withdraw the deposited sum only.”

This is not on and it is completely and utterly unacceptable and needs to be resolved. I've not done anything mentioned in their vague copy and paste terms and conditions crap e-mail and I've e-mailed them subsequently asking exactly what they are trying to say I've done wrong and they haven't replied at all, which says it all really, I haven't done anything wrong and that's it, this is scam and fraud behaviour from 22Bet.com and they need to pay me my winnings. I've not done anything wrong whatsoever, I simply won some money fairly and there is absolutely no reason, grounds or justification whatsoever for them to confiscate my winnings, so I've submitted an SBR complaint and I advise anybody who is thinking of signing up with 22Bet.com, just don't do it, and anybody who has already got an account with 22Bet.com, try to withdraw any balance you have there immediately and never deposit or place a bet there ever again, as they are a fraud and a scam, it's as simple as that.

[vincitorealvaro]

I am nearly sure you won't receive any winnings, at least the fact they've refunded the deposits is good enough.
May I ask why you had registered there?

Here are more of their web pages
www.casino-z.com
www.z-bets.com
www.22bet.com
www.betwinner.com
www.retail.bet
www.1xslot.com

[lonnie55]

22bet = 1xbet

I got scammed by them a few weeks ago. A few others, too: https://www.wettforum.info/forum/boo...64#post4821564

[vincitorealvaro]

22bet = 1xbet

I got scammed by them a few weeks ago. A few others, too: https://www.wettforum.info/forum/boo...64#post4821564

They are not the same. 1xbet is a large company operating from Russia. I don't think 21000 would be issue for them. What about 22bet I heard about them first time, and tried to get some info from live chat but unsuccessfully.

[lonnie55]

They are not the same. 1xbet is a large company operating from Russia. I don't think 21000 would be issue for them. What about 22bet I heard about them first time, and tried to get some info from live chat but unsuccessfully.

Shill?

1xbet and 22bet IS THE SAME actually. I have proof for that.

This is a PM somebody sent me who knows the two guys who are operating 22bet (it's translated from German to English by Google translate so don't be confused)

Here the clarification what 22Bet is. 22Bet is white label of 1xbet. The Russian Direx N.V (ie Playamo, Bob Casino) also wanted to have sports bets, so they chose 1xbet platform. What the forum operator is talking about here is the operative stuff. 22Bet is a total humbug. 2 IT staff puts Playamo !!!! the rest is all 1xBet. The constantly buggy 1xBet Chat are also chatting at 22Bet. Payouts and so on is all about 1xBet. 22Bet pays 25% of their profits to 1xBet. The later make their own product but start with 1xbet first. So either the forum operator has no plan of nothing or he knows that and is stupid about 40% revenue share for only 35 advertisers.

By the way, I'm not an opponent of 1xBet - I'm pro 1xBet. In my opinion, whoever is limited or has to go through a verification marathon is responsible for his own betting behavior, if he gets a 10/10 risk management rating.

Because I am a direct person and then I would also write to forum operator that is ashamed to write such a crap and betittel him as a profit. Because as said the Playamo + Bob Casino types make 2 man and have to squeeze 25%. Ergo is 22bet currently as good as a complete 1xBet. And you are right. Payments, Support, Risk Management everything 1xBet. If you say 1xBet you do not want to compete, then you can not 22Bet advertise.

Sources are the same as forum operator has. One of the two Playamo employees. That's why it makes me so angry that he talks uch a BS. And if I wrote that, the post would be gone right away, because that would definitely be foolish for being silly or being stupid. ^^ Can post that already, if you want, but please 1xbet not so bashen. I like the people who work there. ^^

[Optional]

The email wording is obviously derivative of 1xbet support messages.

What country are you in Bistarn?

The excuse is usually an IP/device match with another user, or they claim arbitrage in most cases.

[shari91]

If that's not 1xbet I don't know who is. Exact same stuff we've seen from way too many complaints about them. I never understand why these people never even bother to try to disguise who they are

[lonnie55]

At least the following sites are related to 1xbet:

1xbit
betandyou
astekbet35
betwinner
melbet
stavkabet
22bet

AVOID!!!

[vincitorealvaro]

Shill?

1xbet and 22bet IS THE SAME actually. I have proof for that.

This is a PM somebody sent me who knows the two guys who are operating 22bet (it's translated from German to English by Google translate so don't be confused)

Well, might be they are sharing the same platform to offer odds, but on financial aspect they must be fully independent. I mean even if 1xbet can payout 50000 EUR that does not mean 22bet or any other with same platform will do

[Superama]

Its the same. The payments are processed by 1xbet. After 1xbet limited me and downgraded the odds on my account, i've also tried 22bet.
2 hours after i deposited on 22bet with the same data i used on 1xbet, they limited me and downgraded the odds. They forced me to roll over the deposit money with 1/2 euros bets, that was the maximum amount they allowed me. With all this process i lost 300 euros trying to do the roll over.

[evro21]

As I see,the platform of 22bet is the same as of 1xbet.And 1xbet stoled from me about 1500 euro,so do not bet on their sites,because they have many sites-different names but equal platforms and obviously all of them with no paying of winnings.Get out of there right now.

[Jaswave125]

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[Poisec]

Hi guys Im not here to defend 1xbet so far they have been good to me, easy withdrawals. Via muchbetter but note as well my. Withdrawals are. Just $500 in amount. Bet365 definitely much better and dont ever go with VBET they are just whack much much worse than 1xbet

$500 is nothing for them, but I would be worried just to withdraw $2000 from this company.

[virtozo]

Another Curacao based bookie stealing money!

[Daddy89]

22bet = 1xbet Totally SCAM... you're lucky that you got your initial deposit.

[Nilsli]

1xBet has paid me fast (several times up to 800$) at least so far. I think they are quite safe as long as you are not a high-roller. I assume that when you get bigger amounts on your accounts, it may be a problem, but for smaller players, I would recommend them. That is just my own experience.

22Bet - never used them

[Nilsli]

I took a chat with 22Bet Live support just to know if they have any connection with 1xbet or not and the answer was NO.

rest of Live chat
You 22:58:09I I read on a forum that 22Bet is white label of 1xbet. Is that wrong you mean?Consultant 22:58:35Our company is an independent company. All information can be found in the About us section.You 23:00:03is it allowed to have account with 22bet if I have account with 1xbet?Consultant 23:00:24We accept all customers.You 23:00:47and also if I have an 1xbet account?Consultant 23:01:14We accept customers registered on other websites.You 23:01:45including 1xbet.com?Consultant 23:02:32Yes.You 23:03:52ok. thanks a lot for your help. Consultant 23:04:33Thank you for contacting us!

[sadekmeister]

I took a chat with 22Bet Live support just to know if they have any connection with 1xbet or not and the answer was NO.

rest of Live chat
You 22:58:09I I read on a forum that 22Bet is white label of 1xbet. Is that wrong you mean?Consultant 22:58:35Our company is an independent company. All information can be found in the About us section.You 23:00:03is it allowed to have account with 22bet if I have account with 1xbet?Consultant 23:00:24We accept all customers.You 23:00:47and also if I have an 1xbet account?Consultant 23:01:14We accept customers registered on other websites.You 23:01:45including 1xbet.com?Consultant 23:02:32Yes.You 23:03:52ok. thanks a lot for your help. Consultant 23:04:33Thank you for contacting us!

Why should they tell the truth to you? It's obvious they are connected.

[Superama]

I took a chat with 22Bet Live support just to know if they have any connection with 1xbet or not and the answer was NO.

rest of Live chat
You 22:58:09I I read on a forum that 22Bet is white label of 1xbet. Is that wrong you mean?Consultant 22:58:35Our company is an independent company. All information can be found in the About us section.You 23:00:03is it allowed to have account with 22bet if I have account with 1xbet?Consultant 23:00:24We accept all customers.You 23:00:47and also if I have an 1xbet account?Consultant 23:01:14We accept customers registered on other websites.You 23:01:45including 1xbet.com?Consultant 23:02:32Yes.You 23:03:52ok. thanks a lot for your help. Consultant 23:04:33Thank you for contacting us!

They are related. The payment emails are the same as 1xbet.

[lonnie55]

A player reported he received 90 EUR via PayPal split up into 8 tranches from 8 different PayPal accounts. One day later PayPal closed the player's account.

Source: https://www.wettforum.info/forum/boo...95#post4863195

[arni6ka]

Few weeks ago I made deposit 1k EUR and paid out 1.1k. Very fast, even without documents and verification. Luckily I got my money, but If I had knoww that 22bet is in connection with 1xbet I would never registered at this bookie. I had negative experience with the SCAMMers.

[thunderstorm]

How did this end? Did you get paid?

1xbet is holding my money as well, that don't let me withdraw my 1450€.

I have just submitted an SBR complaint about this, and the details are as follows:

I registered with 22Bet.com on 12/06/2018 and I made two £200.00 deposits the same day. I then placed a total of over 750 bets with 22Bet.com over the next 6 weeks, and by 13/07/2018 I had ran my balance up to £21,137.74 and I had requested a withdrawal of my full balance, and I was asked for documents, all of which I sent to them, and then after sending them all of the required documents, they e-mailed me on 25/07/2018 saying they are closing my account and confiscating my winnings and only refunding my deposits, bringing my balance from £21,137.74 down to £400.00. This is the e-mail they sent to me:

"Good Day. We are bringing to your notice that we made a decision to stop any collaboration with you (closing your gaming account) on the basis of General Terms and Conditions of the Bookmaker Company:
Should the bettor commit fraud in respect to the bookmaker (such as the registration of multiple accounts, the use of automated betting software, arbitrage betting, if the betting account is not used for betting, the improper use of loyalty schemes, etc.), the bookmaker reserves the right to stop such fraudulent actions by:
-bet cancellation;
-closure of the customer’s account with the balance being refunded;
-filing a claim to a law-enforcement agency.
Effective as of 1 January 2011
The decision was made after rigorous investigation of the case by The Security Department.
We ask you not to create gaming accounts with The Company. Please, notice, that all the accounts created again in the system will be closed,bets will be annulled, deposited funds will be in hold and used on the expenses related with the investigation and blocking.
Due to the fact that your actions have been recognized as flagrant violation of The T&Cs of our Company, the decision of stopping any cooperation with you was final and not subject to further appeal.
All further questions concerning the case of blocking from your side will be ignored.
You can withdraw the deposited sum only.”

This is not on and it is completely and utterly unacceptable and needs to be resolved. I've not done anything mentioned in their vague copy and paste terms and conditions crap e-mail and I've e-mailed them subsequently asking exactly what they are trying to say I've done wrong and they haven't replied at all, which says it all really, I haven't done anything wrong and that's it, this is scam and fraud behaviour from 22Bet.com and they need to pay me my winnings. I've not done anything wrong whatsoever, I simply won some money fairly and there is absolutely no reason, grounds or justification whatsoever for them to confiscate my winnings, so I've submitted an SBR complaint and I advise anybody who is thinking of signing up with 22Bet.com, just don't do it, and anybody who has already got an account with 22Bet.com, try to withdraw any balance you have there immediately and never deposit or place a bet there ever again, as they are a fraud and a scam, it's as simple as that.

[JaimeMiro]

How do you guys find these books. 1xbet I can understand as every site is pulling for them in ads. Do some research before joining any site...

[thunderstorm]

What can I say, made a mistake by choosing them. What else could be said...
Thanks!

How do you guys find these books. 1xbet I can understand as every site is pulling for them in ads. Do some research before joining any site...

[betandwin90]

How do you guys find these books. 1xbet I can understand as every site is pulling for them in ads. Do some research before joining any site...

What bookies do you use? 1xbet is shit but have a lot of markets and leagues. In that aspect are better than others

[nasos75]

They are not the same. 1xbet is a large company operating from Russia. I don't think 21000 would be issue for them. What about 22bet I heard about them first time, and tried to get some info from live chat but unsuccessfully.

I think they are the same. I hold an account with 1xbet which was limited a couple of months ago. They reduce the odds when I log in. I have opened an account yesterday at 22bet and they use the same tactics from my very first bet. That tells me these two have the same database so as they can instantly identify the clients under limitations