So it appears BFC is in full on No-Pay Mode

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  • Ravy Pacer
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-30-09
    • 279

    #1
    So it appears BFC is in full on No-Pay Mode
    Let me first say that I tried to handle this matter off the forums before posting it here. I deposited right before BFC Mike got arrested and have since ran up a low 5 figure balance. I first requested a pay out almost a month ago. I have been given 20 different excuses by BFC as a whole as to why they couldn't pay me. I was trying to get this done quietly through The Judge, but he mysteriously can't answer his phone or respond to an e-mail anymore. Each day for the last 3 weeks I have been told " you will be paid tomorrow." Call the next day and get told " they are in a meeting, or the people in charge of payouts are gone for the day. " No matter what time of day, they are always gone for the day.

    I feel I have been more than patient in waiting nearly a month. I have been flat out lied to by The Judge and BFC as a whole. I have e-mails from BFC to back up what I'm saying. Don't send these guys a penny, no matter how good of a bonus they are dangling. For a shop that wants us to believe they pay quicker than anyone, waiting a month for a pay out seems ridiculous.
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #2
    who is BFC?
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    • robmpink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-09-07
      • 13205

      #3
      The great Al Masters suggests you post up there.
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      • StraitShooter
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-22-09
        • 10464

        #4
        I did not like how a couple of the weller known forums dropped them mid season and would not say why although it was obvious

        I got victimized in a contest scandal involving this book
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        • robmpink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #5
          Originally posted by Ravy Pacer
          Let me first say that I tried to handle this matter off the forums before posting it here. I deposited right before BFC Mike got arrested and have since ran up a low 5 figure balance. I first requested a pay out almost a month ago. I have been given 20 different excuses by BFC as a whole as to why they couldn't pay me. I was trying to get this done quietly through The Judge, but he mysteriously can't answer his phone or respond to an e-mail anymore. Each day for the last 3 weeks I have been told " you will be paid tomorrow." Call the next day and get told " they are in a meeting, or the people in charge of payouts are gone for the day. " No matter what time of day, they are always gone for the day.

          I feel I have been more than patient in waiting nearly a month. I have been flat out lied to by The Judge and BFC as a whole. I have e-mails from BFC to back up what I'm saying. Don't send these guys a penny, no matter how good of a bonus they are dangling. For a shop that wants us to believe they pay quicker than anyone, waiting a month for a pay out seems ridiculous.
          I don't know if this will help, but sign up at madjacksports.com and ask Jack for help. The Judge has been a staple there for awhile.
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          • StraitShooter
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-22-09
            • 10464

            #6
            boy they were paying real fast there for a couple months last year

            where is cindy now?
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            • oldtim
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-11-10
              • 213

              #7
              Thread
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              • Ravy Pacer
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-30-09
                • 279

                #8
                Originally posted by robmpink
                I don't know if this will help, but sign up at madjacksports.com and ask Jack for help. The Judge has been a staple there for awhile.
                Thanks for the tip, will do.
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                • robmpink
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-09-07
                  • 13205

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ravy Pacer
                  Thanks for the tip, will do.
                  no problem!
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                  • Ravy Pacer
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 10-30-09
                    • 279

                    #10
                    Anyone still playing there?
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                    • Extra Innings
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-26-10
                      • 15058

                      #11
                      I assume you tried EOG....they post there
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                      • Ravy Pacer
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-30-09
                        • 279

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Extra Innings
                        I assume you tried EOG....they post there
                        I tried to sign up at Madjack's and post there regarding this. They have not approved my posting priviledges there. Must have seen it coming. Probably looking to take in a few more post up $'s from the posters there.
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                        • SBR_John
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-12-05
                          • 16471

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ravy Pacer
                          Let me first say that I tried to handle this matter off the forums before posting it here. I deposited right before BFC Mike got arrested and have since ran up a low 5 figure balance. I first requested a pay out almost a month ago. I have been given 20 different excuses by BFC as a whole as to why they couldn't pay me. I was trying to get this done quietly through The Judge, but he mysteriously can't answer his phone or respond to an e-mail anymore. Each day for the last 3 weeks I have been told " you will be paid tomorrow." Call the next day and get told " they are in a meeting, or the people in charge of payouts are gone for the day. " No matter what time of day, they are always gone for the day.

                          I feel I have been more than patient in waiting nearly a month. I have been flat out lied to by The Judge and BFC as a whole. I have e-mails from BFC to back up what I'm saying. Don't send these guys a penny, no matter how good of a bonus they are dangling. For a shop that wants us to believe they pay quicker than anyone, waiting a month for a pay out seems ridiculous.
                          You should write Bill and submit your complaint.

                          Its no fun being on the wrong end of a 5 figure no pay. Imagine how much time its cost this poster and the frustration level.

                          This is why you send your hard earned cash to a good book and not a new flash being promoted by a couple of forums. If you go on a roll you want to be able to hit the cash out button and lay your hands on your hard fought cash not get stalled and jacked with and maybe paid or maybe not.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Tough break Ravy

                            BC never had good reviews and the warning signs were there from day one

                            You can go to CR and hire a gang to get your money and I can assure you they will get it but they want like 40% of figure
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                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-12-05
                              • 4610

                              #15
                              ANT PERSON WHO LEAVES IN 5 FIGURES AT ANY SPORTSBOOK GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE 8 DIMES MAX EVEN THATS A LOT TO HAVE THESE BANANA PICKERS HOLDING ON TO

                              IF I HAD 5 FIGURES IN A BOOK BFC WOULD BE THE LAST BOOK IT WOULD BE IN DIDNT THIS NIT WIT READ WHAT WAS GOING ON FOR THE LAST MONTHS
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                              • Fishhead
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 08-11-05
                                • 40179

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BEANTOWNJIM
                                ANT PERSON WHO LEAVES IN 5 FIGURES AT ANY SPORTSBOOK GETS WHAT THEY DESERVE 8 DIMES MAX EVEN THATS A LOT TO HAVE THESE BANANA PICKERS HOLDING ON TO

                                IF I HAD 5 FIGURES IN A BOOK BFC WOULD BE THE LAST BOOK IT WOULD BE IN DIDNT THIS NIT WIT READ WHAT WAS GOING ON FOR THE LAST MONTHS




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                                • robmpink
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-09-07
                                  • 13205

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Ravy Pacer
                                  I tried to sign up at Madjack's and post there regarding this. They have not approved my posting priviledges there. Must have seen it coming. Probably looking to take in a few more post up $'s from the posters there.
                                  Now I know they don't immediatly grant posting access, it has to get approved. Are you saying it was flat out denied?
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                                  • StraitShooter
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-22-09
                                    • 10464

                                    #18
                                    I just googled bfc cindy to see if it bought up a picture..this was part of the advertising ploy ya dig?

                                    all that came up was a picture of toucan sam and a camel`s toes...

                                    they were paying lightning fast for a couple months

                                    que paso aqui?

                                    I actually sent them 100 bucks twice so I could meet a roll over on a contest I entered..I never won back then but think they would have paid quick back then cause they were trolling for deposits on eog and bc

                                    guess someone pulling a david carruthers has not helped the matter

                                    hope you get paid
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                                    • Davydave
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-01-08
                                      • 700

                                      #19
                                      Ravy, have you made any posts on CappersMall? The judge is always on there.
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                                      • robmpink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-09-07
                                        • 13205

                                        #20
                                        Now is a defining moment in the reputation of The Judge. He gave the impression that he would do what he could for the customer. That being said, he may now be backed in a corner where he doesn't have the ability to remedy the situation. Hopefully everyone gets paid who is due. If not, The Judge comes accross as a smart, well spoken man. He had to know the risks involved when opting to work for them. He deserves to be bashed if things don't work out well.
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                                        • robertg
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-02-09
                                          • 643

                                          #21
                                          Pavy,
                                          i would try cappersmall, judge is there often and was a mod there at one time. I'm very sorry to hear this and shocked that Judge hasn't been on top of this. Hope it works out.
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                                          • btraband
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-05-08
                                            • 514

                                            #22
                                            good luck with that, man what a drag
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              Judge is not a bad guy, I am sure it is not him

                                              I am surprised a solid guy like that is with a bad book
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                                              • SBR Lou
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-02-07
                                                • 37863

                                                #24
                                                Ravy,

                                                Can you submit the details of this in a sportsbook complaint form? We will be happy to follow up for you and try to get some answers out of BFC.
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                                                • Chuck Sims
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-29-05
                                                  • 3072

                                                  #25
                                                  When douche bag SHRINK took BFC's banner down halfway through the NFL season it raised the ultimate red flag. Unreal how people on these forums would actually send money to BFC after that.

                                                  And I have no use for "The Judge" who defended this book when they cancelled winning parlays, voided bets after the line moved in favor of the bettor, and all other shady dealings by BFC.
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                                                  • msubulldog
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 01-10-08
                                                    • 427

                                                    #26
                                                    hope everything works out for you losing over 10 grand would be hard on me.
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                                                    • Mr.
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 05-24-08
                                                      • 89

                                                      #27
                                                      I was paid out $1867 on Thursday fwiw via moneybookers.
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                                                      • Doug
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 6324

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Chuck Sims
                                                        When douche bag SHRINK took BFC's banner down halfway through the NFL season it raised the ultimate red flag. Unreal how people on these forums would actually send money to BFC after that.

                                                        And I have no use for "The Judge" who defended this book when they cancelled winning parlays, voided bets after the line moved in favor of the bettor, and all other shady dealings by BFC.
                                                        Even before Stink dropped them, the signs were there. All one had to do was read Mike's posts.
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                                                        • katstale
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-07-07
                                                          • 3924

                                                          #29
                                                          I am still holding out hope he will be able to get some wi fi privileges and come in here and post.
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                                                          • SBR_John
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-12-05
                                                            • 16471

                                                            #30
                                                            Judge should of jumped off at the first sign of a no pay. Now he's damaged goods.

                                                            About a 99% of the time the reason a payment is not made is because there is no money to send or no desire to send it. Maybe this is that rare exception? That's doubtful because once you no pay a guy and then start jacking him with the payout manager is in a meeting followed by he just left for the day that percentage increases to 100%.
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                                                            • StraitShooter
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-22-09
                                                              • 10464

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SBR_John

                                                              About a 99% of the time the reason a payment is not made is because there is no money to send or no desire to send it.

                                                              thats some good shit there
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                                                              • ProfaneReality
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 7607

                                                                #32
                                                                TheShrink taking down a banner means very little. All it means is a check bounced or didn't arrive at all. Notice, he did not give a specific reason. He was very vague why he took it down.
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                                                                • Ravy Pacer
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 10-30-09
                                                                  • 279

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                  Judge should of jumped off at the first sign of a no pay. Now he's damaged goods.

                                                                  About a 99% of the time the reason a payment is not made is because there is no money to send or no desire to send it. Maybe this is that rare exception? That's doubtful because once you no pay a guy and then start jacking him with the payout manager is in a meeting followed by he just left for the day that percentage increases to 100%.
                                                                  John, I'm hoping this is not the case. I was told by Judge I would be paid a hefty portion of what I'm owed tomorrow. While I feel Judge was deceptive with me, I also feel it is somewhat out of his hands. While I was being told on a daily basis that a bank wire would go out the next morning, that never seemed to happen. Now I've been told BFC isn't sending any bank wires out to US citizens in the near future, which I understand to an extent because of the underlying situation. Now the only option for me it seems is for Judge, or a representative of BFC to physically go to my bank and deposit the funds in my account. I'm told by Judge that this will happen to tomorrow. I'm gonna take the wait and see approach here,at least for 1 more day, but there has been all wait and no see persay since this started........
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                                                                  • Ravy Pacer
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-30-09
                                                                    • 279

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by CrazyLou
                                                                    Ravy,

                                                                    Can you submit the details of this in a sportsbook complaint form? We will be happy to follow up for you and try to get some answers out of BFC.
                                                                    CrazyL, if something doesn't happen tomorrow, you will get a full report. I appreciate the offer to help.
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                                                                    • Ravy Pacer
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-30-09
                                                                      • 279

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Was just paid a partial payment by Judge. While it has taken some time, I believe Judge was the guy that made this happen. I am told that I should be fully paid within the week.
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