phoenix and mania a joke

[crinkledaces]

i have been taking advantage betting both sides of a game in order to take the free play bonuses and now they say that they are taking away my free half a point because im not a recreational play. But im down over 600 dollars to them right now. What a joke stay away from these shittys sites its not worth your time!!!! here is our conversation.



Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Alex'
Alex: Hi Alex
Alex: how can I assist you today ?
alex: i have a message that says free half a points are for recreational players
alex: i am a recreational player
alex: im down about 500 dollars right now
alex: do i still qualify for my half a point if not i want to cash out
Alex: My best advise is to speak to your account manager see if she can have it change by the wagering managers , her name is Gigi she will be working today after 3 pm ET please contact her.
alex: so i not getting the half a point right now?
Alex: correct Sir
alex: ok ill be sure to let the SBR forum know about this. Ill contact gigi at 3

[BET THE HOOK]

Just another reason to run. If Gigi is half the cheat Charles is you are screwed.

[Chopsticks]

I found Charles to be a nice guy actually from my short carrieer WagerChief. Derek is the man though.

[crinkledaces]

gigi used to be my host at rebate wager. she is ok but the whole site sucks. I cant tell u how many times i update the lines and then go submit my wager to only have it say the line just moved. I would say that happens about 50 percent of the time. Stay away

[BigDaddy]

what do you mean betting both sides with your freeplay?

did you split up the $200 free play and bet a $100 on same game at -110

if so i don't see how they would ever call that a sharp move.

now trying to scalp out the FP is a sharp move but they have low limits on ML dogs that make it almost impossible to do.

[Dark Horse]

Upset he can't bet both sides of the same game with a free half point.

[BigDaddy]

Upset he can't bet both sides of the same game with a free half point.

i don't see any advantage at all doing that with free play money or real money at -110 lines

maybe you can explain the value in it?

[crinkledaces]

no i bet one side with them the other with matchbook

[crinkledaces]

first of all they have -108 lines and alot of times with the free half of point i can get a better price with matchbook then betmania

ex bulls -3 on matchbook +110 spurs +3 at -108 im actually trying to lose to these idiots

[Dark Horse]

That should be allowed.

[BigDaddy]

first of all they have -108 lines and alot of times with the free half of point i can get a better price with matchbook then betmania

ex bulls -3 on matchbook +110 spurs +3 at -108 im actually trying to lose to these idiots

wow so thats how you use the free play?

LOL!

[crinkledaces]

i know and the thing is is that im down money to them . They are so stupid im trying to give them money and they want to make it more difficult for me to do so. Does anyone know who offers the most money for a deposit freeplay free cash whatever i dont care if the rollover is 20xs because im planing on losing to the site

[BigdaddyQH]

So you are such a pro gambler that you have to resort to playing both sides to get a free play bonus? You are lucky they have not thrown you out. If what you say is true, and you wager one side with them and one side with matchbook, how do they know that you are playing both ends against the middle to get some free play bonus? As far as being a recreational player goes, the answer is simple. Either you wager more than their difinition of a recreational player does, or you do not. If you are down over $600.00, you probably are not a recreational player. Maybe you should look into a new line of work.

[BET THE HOOK]

Call WagerHub and talk to Chuck or Tom

[crinkledaces]

? i bet 500 a game or so. Why would they care if im betting somewhere else? Its not like im a sharp bustin there asses. As a matter of fact i told gigi my host what i was doing so they knew before hand that i was going to do that and they had no problem with that at the time. i even talked to the managers there and told them what i was doing because i wanted to get 5cent money lines. but they said they couldnt make exceptions for me to change the lines.

[crinkledaces]

is that another book

[crinkledaces]

And by the way this is my business I run my own book in my town and i also run and poker game and someone told me they wanted to lose money to me i wouldnt turn them away no matter what there intentions where.

[aggie]

i wouldnt turn them away no matter what there intentions where.

*Last edited by crinkledaces; Today at 12:11 PM.. Reason: spelling

try harder

[RickySteve]

Allow me to rephrase:

Phoenix and Mania won't give me free money for exploiting their promotions and I'm both too lazy and stupid to not make it plainly obvious or god forbid actually do some work and beat them on my own.

[Jrod124]

I have had nothing but issues with these guys too. Used to love them but they are better shops out there

[BET THE HOOK]