JazzSports, Youwager or BetPhoenix?

[Smurf71]

Guys let's look into all the pros and cons on those 3 books. Looks to me that they all somewhat accept pro business, except Bet Phoenix maybe. Reliability,CS, lines, payouts limits and also tolerance towards a pro bettor.
Let's lay it out

[Smurf71]

Betting limits BetPhoenix

• NFL 10 000/5000
• CFB 5000/3000
• NBA 5000/3000
• CBB 3000/1000
• MLB 10 000/5000
• NHL 5000/3000

Betting limits JazzSports

• NFL 10000/5000
• CFB 10000/5000
• NBA 5000/3000
• CBB 5000/3000
• MLB 5000/5000
• NHL 5000/3000
  

Betting limits Youwager

• NFL 10 000/5000
• CFB 5000/3000
• NBA 5000/3000
• CBB 3000/1000
• MLB 3000/3000
• NHL 3000/2000

[kristianw]

One bad thing about Bet Phoenix is their payouts. They don't offer any good book to book transfers

[gambleballs]

they all suck and will limit u quickly if you win.

[whatsgood5]

Gotta give the nod to BP out of these three...

[robertg]

bet phoenix has more betting options, and -105 in fb and baskets. Youwager has dime line in baseball up to -190, and the fastest payouts i've ever experienced.
Betphoenix are good people to deal with, but every time I've requested a payout, c/s tell me they have to submit it for approval.......(which just pisses me off) Whats there to approve, its my money, your'e looking at my account and i want you to send it to me. I don't care if there is only one person who can authorize and their not in. thats pure chickenshit. AT youwager, you can withdrawl any amount over your deposit amount without regard to hold time or rollover, and you can even request it online.
I've requested payouts at 10 pm and had the money out of my account in 10 minutes. Most books will slow walk you at a least a day or two to give you a chance to lose it back to them. I've never used jazz, and i've certainly never been a professional so I can't speak to that aspect. One other thing I've noticed lately, college basketball at youwager has 300 limits on non tv games, and this just started, so obviously that isn't very pro friendly.

Both BetPhoenix and youwager are books i use and like, but i give the nod to youwager based on superior customer service, email response, and ease and speed of payouts.

[skrtelfan]

Jazz is a recreational book.

[Smurf71]

Digging deeper

I talked to Bet Phoenix 2 days ago and they said they do B2B transfers with Youwager family only.

YW does not do any B2B transactions at this time. They have this crazy $15k minimum bank wire option. I would be cautious taking a wire transfer that is above $10k... Better safe than sorry.

I was not aware about $ 300 CB limits they have set recently. Well reason to that is the bad beating all the books have taken this CB season. Vegas can not keep all the lines sharp and with so many games to play, beating has been harsh! Then again $300 limit is a white flag , that's what it is- with that kind of limits you stop betting and go elsewhere.

About Jazz being purely rec. book ? That I don't believe. Rec. book does not have betting limits as high as Jazz does. I would say they are rec./pro book , a hybrid. That may be closer to the truth.

[wisky]

BP has had some downtime in the past. Server issues

[siabdo23]

but who has the fastest payouts of the three

[dark star]

Tough to say who pays the fastest.I would say Youwager/Betpop,then Phoenix & then Jazz.In my experiences they all pay quickly.I will probablt re-deposit at Jazz for football cause I think their numbers are better than the other 2.

[Justin7]

I've played at all 3, like them all. If you're a pro player, stick to Pinnacle, Matchbook, Greek and Bookmaker (throwing in others as you get thrown out of other rec books).

[Smurf71]

Good advice but when you live in Texas it makes Pinnacle business kind of difficult does't it! I really do wish that few big exchange type of books would enter US market soon. Matchbook needs to be cloned! Yet as for now we are experiencing an opposite trend as liquidity in Matchbook itself is getting smaller and smaller like a campfire in the rain.
I also think that so much valued personal freedom in Europe will run out some day and they too start building walls against offshore books. Was that Larry Flynt who said- "freedom of speech is absolute!" So is freedom of choice!

[thejrichshow85]

Looselines is a great jazzbook !

[pimike]

Looselines is a great jazzbook !

I've been with youwager for 10 year Plus.

I am going to try Looselines through SBR Free 250 cash promo. Will report how it goes.

[skrtelfan]

Perhaps it varies among different books in the Jazz family, but one of their books was one of the very first books to show me the door.

[Mr. Teaser]

If you ever try to leave youwager they will cold call you non stop

[robmpink]

BP has a wide range of events. I like that.

[michael777]

if you like to pay high fees for payouts then play with jazz

[pokerplayer22]

IMO Betphoenix and Youwager are not without problems but are both great books where your money will be safe...However, if Alex Powers is still running things over at Jazz, i would stay far far away from them...At least until he looks at himself in the mirror and decides to make good on all of his lies and thievery over the years

[pimike]

I've been with youwager for 10 year Plus.

I am going to try Looselines through SBR Free 250 cash promo. Will report how it goes.

well no report money gone.


SBR HOWEVER is A + money in account right away

Thanks SBR