Best soccer book for US bettors of the EPL?

Ruifgalmeida · 02-10-10, 07:46 AM

can you play at asian books? 188bet, 12 bet, sbobet they offer almost as good odds as pinnacle and are safe, sports1 have goos lines but i dont like their fees

thespeculator · 02-10-10, 08:16 AM

well 5dimes, will give you half time lines, alternate lines and totals

mihaita666 · 02-10-10, 08:18 AM

betphoenix

skrtelfan · 02-10-10, 08:39 AM

Most of the Asian books I looked at didn't accept Americans or were too difficult to fund, but I'll check those out, thanks.

I do have accounts at BetPhoenix and 5Dimes and they have lots of options, but their lines are such that I rarely find anything to bet there, and my limits at 5Dimes are ridiculously low. As an example, I'm looking to play Birmingham today who are +.25 +106 at Pinnacle, and +.25 +103 or +.5 -128 on Betfair. BP has +.25 -111 or +.5 -142, so nowhere near as good. 5Dimes does have +.25 +103 but I can only bet $50 on that.

spartangreen · 02-10-10, 08:42 AM

Betphoenix has the best soccer for US customers.

skrtelfan · 02-10-10, 08:59 AM

Following up, none of those Asian books take US residents and they all identify US IP addresses and either won't even let you view the lines, in the case of 188bet, or won't let you get to the signup screen.

skrtelfan · 02-10-10, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by spartangreen

Betphoenix has the best soccer for US customers.

No way. I can get Birmingham +.5 -142 from BP or $800 of +.5 -129 and -131 on Matchbook. Not even close. 5Dimes has +.25 +103 which is good for anyone that can actually bet reasonable amounts there.

Dunder · 02-10-10, 09:14 AM

BetPhoenix and 5Dimes are the best US Friendly books for soccer. Matchbook is OK close to game time for relatively small bets.

There is a big gulf between Pinny, Betfair and SBOBet and these three, however.

durito · 02-10-10, 09:27 AM

You need to get on the reduced juice lineset at betphoenix.

skrtelfan · 02-10-10, 10:20 AM

I didn't last very long on BetPhoenix's reduced juice plan, but at least my limits are still reasonable, unlike 5Dimes.

spartangreen · 02-10-10, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

No way. I can get Birmingham +.5 -142 from BP or $800 of +.5 -129 and -131 on Matchbook. Not even close. 5Dimes has +.25 +103 which is good for anyone that can actually bet reasonable amounts there.

its easily the best book for other leagues, they cover the most leagues.

vitalyo · 02-10-10, 11:03 AM

Betphoenix

Max009 · 02-10-10, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by skrtelfan

Pre-UIGEA I made the majority of my bets with Pinnacle and Mansion which are no longer open to Americans. My outs now largely suck so I need new ones. I thought Matchbook would be a decent choice other than the fact that they have no handicap lines, only 3 way betting, but their liquidity is terrible, and I'm not even trying to bet particularly large amounts. I have a hard time getting offers matched, even very generous ones that were better than Pinnacle, BetFair, and any of the books I checked, and I'm not a big fan of making offers because I'm usually doing other things and can't watch the lines like a hawk, so it's not uncommon that my offers only match when the line moves the wrong way and I could have easily gotten a better line after the move.

Any good choices out there? Essentially I'd be happy with somewhere that cloned Pinnacle at somewhat reasonable vig. I don't mind paying a few cents worse but at books like Greek, 5 Dimes, etc, they always seemed to be 15 and 10 cents worse respectively.

Parlaymakers, you can get nearly everything Pinnacle offers on soccer at pinnacle prices, max bet is $250.