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  • teddybreak
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-16-09
    • 110

    #1
    2 questions about ps3838
    Hi,

    2 questions about ps3838:

    -Are your limits on this market (Cycling) the same as mine? Mine seem very low (they will increase a little once getting closer towards the starting time, but still) and when I make a wager the odds drop immensely, even if it's close to starting time. If I now put EUR 25 on the bet in the screenshot the odds will drop to 1,5-ish. These drops seem to get worse for me over time...
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    -And to follow up on that: is it allowed to use ps3838 via another account (via another broker) along with this one?
  • DynamiteLarry64
    SBR Rookie
    • 03-30-25
    • 46

    #2
    That;s how betting works in PS3838.
    If you bet the maxbet amount on a market that is this niche and the allowed stake is this low , you instantly kill the odd.

    Keep in mind that PS3838 is "copying" the normal Pinnacle account with the only difference that the maxbet allowed on PS3838 is usually HALF (/2) of what the maximum amount on the same market appears on a normal Pinnacle account.

    As far as I know it's not "illegal" to use many ps accounts with different brokers but thats really up to ps themselves if they deem it "unfair play" or not you best consult your agent/broker on this matter.
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    • teddybreak
      SBR High Roller
      • 04-16-09
      • 110

      #3
      Originally posted by DynamiteLarry64
      That;s how betting works in PS3838.
      If you bet the maxbet amount on a market that is this niche and the allowed stake is this low , you instantly kill the odd.

      Keep in mind that PS3838 is "copying" the normal Pinnacle account with the only difference that the maxbet allowed on PS3838 is usually HALF (/2) of what the maximum amount on the same market appears on a normal Pinnacle account.

      As far as I know it's not "illegal" to use many ps accounts with different brokers but thats really up to ps themselves if they deem it "unfair play" or not you best consult your agent/broker on this matter.
      I understand they need a margin to work with. However the odd drops seem to get bigger and bigger. I was wondering if this is the same for others too (and if the limits for them are the same as well).
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      • Brooklyn Dick
        SBR MVP
        • 09-12-08
        • 1124

        #4
        Some PS3838 accounts will not have the exact same odds as Pinnacle. They are a bit worse........I am sure that they can adjust the lines as they wish.....
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 63353

          #5
          Many years ago the owner of AC88 assured me that players could use multiple brokers to access multiple PS3838 accounts. But he also said it was not going to be any significant advantage as the accounts would be quickly connected anyway.

          Don't know for sure if either of those things remain true today.
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 63353

            #6
            Originally posted by teddybreak
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            Try uploading the image to imgbb.com and using their BBCODE to insert it in your post here.

            That imagine is not readable. Someone might try a cycling bet for you to compare exactly if they can see the market and limits you are asking about.

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            • teddybreak
              SBR High Roller
              • 04-16-09
              • 110

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional

              Try uploading the image to imgbb.com and using their BBCODE to insert it in your post here.

              That imagine is not readable. Someone might try a cycling bet for you to compare exactly if they can see the market and limits you are asking about.
              Thanks, didn't realise it wouldn't enlarge when clicked on.

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              • teddybreak
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-16-09
                • 110

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                Many years ago the owner of AC88 assured me that players could use multiple brokers to access multiple PS3838 accounts. But he also said it was not going to be any significant advantage as the accounts would be quickly connected anyway.

                Don't know for sure if either of those things remain true today.
                I once started using PIWI because of the exchange (through AC88) and they had Ps3838 as well. I started off with bigger limits and (much) smaller drops than on my original PS3838 account (which I'm still using), but after some time they limited my max bet to EUR 1. A while after that they stopped offering PIWI alltogether.
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                • vampire assassin
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-09-18
                  • 302

                  #9
                  There are two flavors of PS3838 accounts. Vanilla with regular limits, and pro with half whatever Pinnys' limits are.
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                  • DynamiteLarry64
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 03-30-25
                    • 46

                    #10
                    Originally posted by teddybreak

                    I understand they need a margin to work with. However the odd drops seem to get bigger and bigger. I was wondering if this is the same for others too (and if the limits for them are the same as well).
                    This most likely means that the agent that is offering you the ps3838 is ripping you off by adding some extra vig which goes to him directly when you place whatever bet you planning to.
                    A legit agent would offer ps accounts with the exact same odds as pinnacle has but 9/10 of the cases half the limit is applied.

                    There are agents that offer the full Pinnacle maxbet but they tend to get quite rapped by good bettors so they quickly limit that to even 1euro (as Piwi has been doing in the recent years when they were originally offering pinnacle maxbets ps accounts with small drops upon betting).
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                    • infotimbo
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-24-18
                      • 856

                      #11
                      This form of behaviour is absolutely normal for niche betting and will happen with every PS3838 account you create. Sometimes sooner, sometimes later. With a new account, the movements are small (and occasionally - at least at AC - the limits larger), but everything gets adapted quickly. Unless you keep on losing.

                      Only thing that helps a bit is waiting for the limits to increase. The AlUla Tour H2Hs you quoted in the 1st post went up to ~125 for example, which is a normal figure for cycling races like this. Bigger ones usually go up to around 250.

                      As far as I know, using multiple accounts is permitted, but you are of course not allowed to use them for market manipulation.
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                      • ahancoverz
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-02-24
                        • 10

                        #12
                        How do you get a PS3838 account in the US?
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