Gamebookers shit bookmaker

[danyel]

Well, after the first void, you don't have to be Einstein to realize the second void was more evil than the first:
bet placed at 22:37 , voided 22:42

Both bets voided after the players won the frame.

Gamebookers responded they had TV delay,
Please... an uk bookmaker having delay on UK Champs...

They did not had any problems with the betting console, they were updating odds after every action.

I did not watch at the first void, But I watched carefully at the 2nd, and even after finish the trader thought a little about voiding my bet or not.
Which makes me think the trader validated losing bets and small winnings bets and voided big winners individually

[Santo]

Just for correctness, Gamebookers aren't in the UK. They are run out of Gibraltar.

Just found this, seems I was reading the wrong thread earlier. Again it looks like the shot/miss was right around the time of your bet, and the void came about 2mins after the end of the (final) frame:

Ahoy 1982 07 Dec 21:36
all over bar the shouting so - has ronnie been good this evening??



Don No1 07 Dec 21:37
how did he miss that?



Max Cady 07 Dec 21:37
must have rolled off



Don No1 07 Dec 21:38
Didnt look like the right angle as soon as it left his cue



Max Cady 07 Dec 21:39
game over



Don No1 07 Dec 21:39
GSM



Max Cady 07 Dec 21:40
g'night JV



They think it's all over.... 07 Dec 21:43
Cat Stevens could have given Ronnie a better game.

[Dunder]

Dear Dunder, what would it take to believe me?

My opinion is irrelevant but suffice to say it hasn´t changed!

Off-hand SBR tend not to have a great deal of success with European bookies, that unfortunately leaves the Gibraltar Regulatory Authority as being your best hope of recourse. They have been beefed up since Ladbrokes et al decided to move their online operations away from the UK tax man but I doubt that means they are any less bookie friendly.

http://www.gra.gi/index.php?site=gambling&section=complaints

[danyel]

Done that.

They said they are investigating...

[danyel]

Well the only solution will be to denigrate them on all betting forums

[Dunder]

Well the only solution will be to denigrate them on all betting forums

Don´t quite see how that is a "solution" but good luck.
Any news from the GRA?

[danyel]

GRA seems useless

No response after a week..

Paul Fox
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Dear Mr Pirvulescu
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You will be contacted in due course once we have been able to look at the matter.
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Paul Fox
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[noyb]

problem with livebetting is, regardless of this case which i really can't judge, the guy trading the event for the book makes the call whether to void or not. livetraders sometimes work at the same location as the book and are actual employees, but i know a few books that have people working for them freelance from home after only a short training how to use the software (esp. in sports like soccer most is automated anyway). their pay is very much related to the profit they make, and if they aren't doing well, they're out, and it's on to the next guy. there's a lot of incentive for a not so scrupulous trader to claim a large winning bet was past-posted when it wasn't, even though the book itself is generally honest and reliable. a book will always close its ranks and stand by the trader's decision, because generally the bettor has no evidence whatsoever of what happened when exactly and can do nothing. things get moe suspicious ofcourse if the same trader is voiding bets on a regular basis without merit, but it's an obvious flaw in the whole livebetting-thing.

[Hareeba!]

GRA seems useless

My one experience with them suggests you are correct.
They totally failed to grasp the issue I referred to them and appeared unconcerned that Party Bets rules enabled them to cheat punters.
I really doubt that these authorities staff themselves with people who have had any experience in punting or bookmaking.

[UV82]

It is well known that there is a problem with dart matches which are known to start often before the schedules time... I do not understand why they would take the chance and bet or arb these games - highly risk from voiding point of view.

[Hareeba!]

It is well known that there is a problem with dart matches which are known to start often before the schedules time... I do not understand why they would take the chance and bet or arb these games - highly risk from voiding point of view.

darts?
I thought we been talking snooker here?

[mihaita666]

wow, gamebookers are huge in Romania, they Bwin and Bet365 have the biggest number of romanian customers. If I tell this on romanian betting forums, they will cry )

[Stifter]

I had a similar case like this with Gamebookers. It was Brazil women against some other women team, live broadcasted by Eurosport. I was watching the match and the Brazil girls lead by 1-0 in the 70st minute. The other team was pressing for an equalizer and Brazil was getting a lot of space so I bet on next goal Brazil @about 1.90. A few minutes later, Brazil scored from a counter-attack so I was very happy. I watched in my account ---> bet cancelled. I was real mad about this and contacted the support team. They said I made the bet while the goal was scored...WTF, I became even more mad because I was watching it on the tv, and the goal came clearly a few minutes later. I decided to leave it to this cause it will certainly suits no purpose opposing their decision (my word against theirs). Than, a few days later their new customer loyalty service came out and turns into a real big joke, I decided to say goodbye to them.

[mihaita666]

so they are crap for big wagers....good to know

[Hareeba!]

so they are crap for big wagers....good to know

I wouldn't trust them with any wagers ... and big ones are out of the question for me at least .. I couldn't bet more than peanuts with them by the time it came to give them the boot.

[Stifter]

so they are crap for big wagers....good to know

After you won a few bets, they won't allow you to stake big wagers anymore. There are way better bookies around with better odds/service/loyalty program.

[Hareeba!]

After you won a few bets, they won't allow you to stake big wagers anymore. There are way better bookies around with better odds/service/loyalty program.

Yeah, but you won't find them in Europe?

[UV82]

darts?
I thought we been talking snooker here?

Sorry, I meant snooker, but funny enough the same applies to Darts (i.r.o game starting time)

[mihaita666]

i think bookies behave differently in different countrie....i've never heard things like this in romania about gb...where they are very popular...also availble for bet365...

[nenad]

lol this shit book is just limit me to 10e bet on champions league and 1e for other leagues for no reason.