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  • josepgb
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-25-09
    • 21

    #1
    5dimes horrendous Customer Service agent and system glitch on asian handicaps
    Hi,

    I'll explain what happened to me at 5Dimes yesterday.

    I been customer of 5dimes for more than 5 years, and usually I bet soccer and tennis mainly, without a single complain of them. Till yesterday.

    Yesterday, I was going to place a bet on champions league soccer matches, and Asian Handicap lines where offered also for the parlays.

    I placed a parlay, and one of the lines was the match Rubin Kazan - Dinamo Kiev.
    I matched Rubin Kazan pk, -1/2 (pk means draw-no-bet at 5dimes), Obviously the odd was lower than if I would have matched Rubin Kazan straight win.

    My surprise came when all the parlay was settled as lost because this was the first match to be played, and the outcome was a Draw. In other betting sites, read Pinnacle, when you place a parlay with an asian handicap line like the one I'm talking about, they split the parlay in two parlays, one with R. Kazan pk, and the other one R. Kazan -1/2. In this case, half of the parlay would be lost, and half stay with the pk being void or tied. If not, what's the sense of accepting lower odds if the result of the parlay is the same if the match is a draw???


    I contacted CS via chat, and one agent called Monica (she didn't has any idea of Soccer I think) told me the parlay was lost because the only winning line was a DRAW on this match, and the 5dimes rules are, "all the individuals of a parlay must be won or tie for the parlay to run.

    She told me also "you like the rules when they go with you, and you don't like them when they go against you", "you should not bet if you don't understand wagering". I explined her how those kind of bets work at Pinnacle, and she told me "we are not Pinnacle, we are 5 dimes, we have our own rules" without ever understanding what was my concern.


    Lately I contacted back them, and a friendly CS specialist called Pete take my concern.

    He agreed with me that something was wrong with this line, and he told me that the wagering system had a glitch that allowed me to place an Asian Handicap line in a Parlay, but this is not allowed at 5dimes, "Asain Handicap cannot be parlayed".


    As some other lines were lost on the parlay, we agreed the bet should not be void.


    Conclusion,


    1.Take care if Asian Handicap lines are offered to you in parlays at 5Dimes, they don't work, just straight lines and spreads work there, even if they are allowed to you. They will be settled as lost.

    2.CS service at 5Dimes shouldn't have people like "Monica" who makes feel the ones who are paying her job feel like sh*t, withouth having idea of what she is talking about. CS should take care of this, 5dimes always has been famous cos of their awesome CS service


    Take care

    Josep

    Rgrds!
  • Dunder
    Restricted User
    • 10-26-09
    • 3345

    #2
    You are the second person to have complained about this issue recently with 5Dimes.
    The others posters case was very similar and he likewise got nowhere when complaining to 5Dimes.
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    • trixtrix
      Restricted User
      • 04-13-06
      • 1897

      #3
      monica gets to talk to you like that b/c she was on all fours in front of tony, pete prolly don't get priviledge until tony got reallllly drunk..
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      • skrtelfan
        SBR MVP
        • 10-09-08
        • 1913

        #4
        But if they'd have voided the parlay if the other legs had won, they were freerolling you because any time the Rubin Kazan match draws, you can only get your parlay voided, you cannot win. They should void your bet because of the glitch in their system.
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        • Barbarian
          SBR Hustler
          • 02-02-09
          • 93

          #5
          just jump to another representative and do not get angry with Monica she could suffer from PMS
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          • Raven66
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-21-09
            • 824

            #6
            5 Dimes are a pretty good book.

            There CS outright Sux.

            Tony is a crook.
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            • iceminers26
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-13-08
              • 15600

              #7
              Originally posted by Raven66
              5 Dimes are a pretty good book. There CS outright Sux. Tony is a crook.
              solid book that will always pay quick, but don't even try to attempt dealing with CS, flat out sucks
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              • MichaelC
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-25-09
                • 211

                #8
                Originally posted by Dunder
                You are the second person to have complained about this issue recently with 5Dimes.
                The others posters case was very similar and he likewise got nowhere when complaining to 5Dimes.

                That was me who posted the last complaint like that just two weeks ago.
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                • MichaelC
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-25-09
                  • 211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MichaelC
                  That was me who posted the last complaint like that just two weeks ago.
                  Here is the original post:

                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                  • josepgb
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 11-25-09
                    • 21

                    #10
                    Skrtel fan,

                    If the other lines would win, the outcome must be, half of the stake lost, and half of the stake keping on run with the R. Kazan line tied or void, whatever you prefer. Tks heaven the other lines had a loser, if not, I can't imagine whot would happen!

                    Anyway, if you chat 5dimes and you get "Monica", stay away, menopausic woman!
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                    • josepgb
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 11-25-09
                      • 21

                      #11
                      Also, someone should tell 5dimes to state in their rules clearly "Asian Handicaps cannot be parlayed" and et their systems to do so. If not this is cheating the customer!
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                      • acw
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-29-05
                        • 576

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MichaelC
                        So in the end did you get paid?

                        I see 5dimes has an A+ rating and that for stealing while Ladbrokes got downgraded for not explaining. Nice job, Justin7. Get those Pommies. I start to like you.
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                        • MichaelC
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-25-09
                          • 211

                          #13
                          5 Dimes took care of the problem.

                          Originally posted by acw
                          So in the end did you get paid?

                          I see 5dimes has an A+ rating and that for stealing while Ladbrokes got downgraded for not explaining. Nice job, Justin7. Get those Pommies. I start to like you.
                          I just received this email moments ago. Great job 5 dimes!

                          Dear customer:

                          Our general manager looked into your account regarding the Asian handicaps parlay ticket #39xxxxxx from nov 14. He credited your account with the correct amount. The error is being corrected by our programming staff. You were also credited $20 as freeplay for the error.
                          Best Regards,

                          Vivian
                          Customer Service Manager
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                          • durito
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-03-06
                            • 13173

                            #14
                            She told me also "you like the rules when they go with you, and you don't like them when they go against you", "you should not bet if you don't understand wagering". I explined her how those kind of bets work at Pinnacle, and she told me "we are not Pinnacle, we are 5 dimes, we have our own rules" without ever understanding what was my concern.
                            This is the best part. They only have those bets in the first place because they copy them from pinnacle.
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                            • Justin7
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-31-06
                              • 8577

                              #15
                              Can I see the wagering ticket?
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MichaelC
                                I just received this email moments ago. Great job 5 dimes!

                                Dear customer:

                                Our general manager looked into your account regarding the Asian handicaps parlay ticket #39xxxxxx from nov 14. He credited your account with the correct amount. The error is being corrected by our programming staff. You were also credited $20 as freeplay for the error.
                                Best Regards,

                                Vivian
                                Customer Service Manager
                                So 2 weeks later they fix it, what about the OP?
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                                • betpartners
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 02-15-09
                                  • 239

                                  #17
                                  This cannot be so

                                  They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

                                  Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

                                  Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

                                  They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least
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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by betpartners
                                    This cannot be so

                                    They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

                                    Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

                                    Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

                                    They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least
                                    Most of the euro books you promote can't book their way out of a garbage bag, they aren't any different than 5dimes.
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                                    • Justin7
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-31-06
                                      • 8577

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by betpartners
                                      This cannot be so

                                      They are A+ rated, impossible this has happened, i mean its 5dimes

                                      Their customer service is best anywhere in the gambling industry, it must be to be A+ and top of the posters poll as shown above.

                                      Justin7 upgrade them mate and quick to super status AAA+

                                      They are after all non European with shitty CS and taking dodgy wagers, must be a double A at least
                                      Heh. We all know how biased I am in favor of recommended books.
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                                      • tltaylor89
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-19-09
                                        • 19610

                                        #20
                                        lol the customer service reps are pains in ths asses they dont understand shit
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                                        • betpartners
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 02-15-09
                                          • 239

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by durito
                                          Most of the euro books you promote can't book their way out of a garbage bag, they aren't any different than 5dimes.
                                          Then if they are no different to 5Dimes why is 5Dimes rated so highly.

                                          Or are you saying that 5Crimes should be downgraded
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                                          • betpartners
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-15-09
                                            • 239

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Justin7
                                            Heh. We all know how biased I am in favor of recommended books.
                                            Dont think i have have ever accused you of being biased in favour of recommended books, more that you have no clue about European books.

                                            But i wont argue with your point
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                                            • josepgb
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 11-25-09
                                              • 21

                                              #23
                                              40325575-1 11/24/09 2:17am $50.00 $64,662.76 $0.00 Loss 11 Team Parlay
                                              Loss 11/24/09 12:30pm European Cup Soccer 102 Rubin Kazan (UCL) pk,-½ -134 vs Dynamo Kiev (UCL)
                                              Loss 11/24/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 104 Inter (UCL) +430 vs Barcelona (UCL)
                                              Win 11/24/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 117 Unirea Urziceni (UCL) pk +138 vs FC Sevilla (UCL)
                                              Win 11/25/09 2:45pm European Cup Soccer 23 FC Zurich (UCL) +2,+2½ +109 vs Real Madrid (UCL)
                                              Win 11/24/09 9:15am ATP Tennis 104 F.Verdasco Games Won +2 -120 vs J.M.del Potro Games Won
                                              Loss 11/24/09 3:45pm ATP Tennis 118 Andy Murray +100 vs Roger Federer
                                              Win 11/24/09 7:30am ATP Doubles Tennis 151 M.Bhupathi/M.Knowles -150 vs M.Fyrstenberg/M.Matkowski
                                              Win 11/24/09 7:00am Challenger Tennis 302 Stefan Koubek -260 vs Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi
                                              Loss 11/24/09 7:00am Challenger Tennis 303 Bjorn Phau -270 vs Daniel Evans
                                              Loss 11/24/09 8:15am Challenger Tennis 312 Kevin Kim -130 vs Dustin Brown
                                              Win 11/24/09 10:30am Challenger Tennis 316 Karol Beck -270 vs Evgeniy Donsko
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