Draft Kings sucks, ALWAYS a hassle to just sign in.

**Wilfred** · 06-19-21, 08:20 PM

Worst promotions imo Bet MGM does a lot of deposit $500 free $500 1x rollover of the bonus -200 odds. I’d use them if you have them in your area.

**Mugsy777** · 06-19-21, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by SnakesPicks

Hi, I'm in Massachusetts near the New Hampshire border. Figured I'd give Draft Kings a shot when they became legal in New Hampshire. I signed up during football season in October. The first sign up was a total pain in the ass, but I got it done and made a few wagers that day. Every other time I have tried to login there, it has been a run around with them prompting me to re-download the app over and over again. I'm trying again right now. I can get to their fantasy site, but apparently the actual sportsbook is seperate from that. I thought it would be a good out to have. Drive 20 minutes across the border, turn on location on my phone, login and bet. But every single time I tried that, it's been a nightmare. The lack of a phone number is unforgiveable for any "real" sportsbook. Going back and forth with some numbnut through email is maddening. I got screwed out of my initial sign up bonus through some technicality. I only have a miniscule amount of money there now, thank God. I'm asking them to just refund my balance and then "good day to you, Draft Kings"! I don't really need any assistance with this matter. I just wanted to share my experience with these clowns and rant a little. Have a good weekend all. Snake over and out.

You are 100% correct

**littlekona** · 06-19-21, 09:34 PM

DK is fine and problems your experiencing seem more with the geo location or user inflected then anything...sign up is simple, promotions are better then most USA legal, the app is above average and they offer tons of markets...Payouts a bit slower then others but overall DK is definitely in top 3 maybe the best IMO

**jjgold** · 06-20-21, 06:50 AM

Mgm
DraftKings
Fandual

Everything else a waste

**SnakesPicks** · 06-20-21, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Mgm
DraftKings
Fandual

Everything else a waste

Says the paid shill. You would whore for anyone JJ.

**SnakesPicks** · 06-20-21, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by littlekona

DK is fine and problems your experiencing seem more with the geo location or user inflected then anything...sign up is simple, promotions are better then most USA legal, the app is above average and they offer tons of markets...Payouts a bit slower then others but overall DK is definitely in top 3 maybe the best IMO

Laughable.

**Shifty** · 06-20-21, 01:50 PM

The geolocation software they use really sucks. You can't just cross the border. You have to be in area with several wi-fi signals. Drive a few more miles into a busy area and it might work.

**Fishhead** · 06-20-21, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by SnakesPicks

Says the paid shill. You would whore for anyone JJ.

Wow

**jjgold** · 06-20-21, 02:35 PM

Stay away from most USA books

They slow
Pay to and bad odds

**LongBall52** · 06-21-21, 08:01 AM

I can click onto Draft Kings first time, Every time. Paid with no hassle. Now Fan Duel is a different story for log on. At least twice or more.

**Barrakuda** · 06-22-21, 01:41 AM

It's a nightmare to login to either FD or DK, and I strictly use desktop. FD has a known bug that locks me out for 4 hours after 10-20 min.

DK is always bouncing me and then taking 15 seconds just to login. At least I don;t get locked out. Does anyone remember the interface at wsex? I know they ripped people off in the end, but holy shit was that a fast and clean interface...

I think the problem is that US books think of the sportsbook as a place to advertise the casino or money-losing parlay specials rather than take bets.

**Optional** · 06-22-21, 02:45 PM

I don't know about the software, but Draftkings post early lines on some of the smaller market sports. Worth having them just for that reason I think.

Who mentioned Fanduel? Does anyone who plays there think it offers any real reason to use them, like the early lines at DK?

I have the impression they are the biggest bubble gum sportsbook licensed in the US.

**thedenthead** · 06-22-21, 07:14 PM

Pointsbet. If available in your state. Online banking withdrawal ina day and no fees or bullshit.

**Barrakuda** · 06-23-21, 12:42 AM

FD, DK and MGM are each uniquely bad at pricing sports. So yes, it is extremely profitable to use all of them until limited.

**stevex** · 06-23-21, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by thedenthead

Pointsbet. If available in your state. Online banking withdrawal ina day and no fees or bullshit.

Lines are awful there though and rarely offer a reload bonus like BetMGM or DK.

**jjgold** · 06-23-21, 07:05 AM

All
Lines awful usa except a rare few

Caesars PA decent money lines

All usa spreads have no reduced juice either

So your laying -110 or higher spreads and offshore -105.

Money lines usa do not even bother not even remotely competitive any sports

**littlekona** · 06-23-21, 06:14 PM

In Illinois
#1 DK pros tons of markets good app and desktop best promos con slowest payouts 2-3 days
#2 Rivers pros same markets as DK w excellent desktop pays fastest of all next day.
Cons App is buggy freezes and slow
#3 Fandual pros fast pay app is smooth and has desktop. Con juice higher geo location issues at times not as many markets as top 2 esp live
#4 barstool pros same markets juice as top 2
Payouts fast next day cons no desktop not as many promotions
#5 Point pros desk top and app with good promos decent markets cons takes bit longer for payouts 2-3 days many times, higher juice app harder to maneuver through
6 William Hill pros the smoothest app payouts 2 days cons no desk top the least amount of markets and worst live markets and higher juice

Like ive said join them and use as supplement to offshore its sick the freebies they throw at you and ease of funding is great

**Barrakuda** · 06-24-21, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

All
Lines awful usa except a rare few

Caesars PA decent money lines

All usa spreads have no reduced juice either

So your laying -110 or higher spreads and offshore -105.

Money lines usa do not even bother not even remotely competitive any sports

Imagine being a 30 year gambling vet, and not being able to spot the daily mispricings at MGM/FD/DK...

**jjgold** · 06-24-21, 04:59 AM

Kids I cannot imagine that

**LongBall52** · 06-24-21, 07:41 AM

It's hard to put (within boundaries) a price on peace of mind. At least for this old gambler. Offshore KNOW they can screw you anytime they want!

**Optional** · 06-24-21, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

All
Lines awful usa except a rare few

Caesars PA decent money lines

Caesars = William Hill now in Pa.?

**tbill1** · 06-24-21, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

In Illinois
#1 DK pros tons of markets good app and desktop best promos con slowest payouts 2-3 days
#2 Rivers pros same markets as DK w excellent desktop pays fastest of all next day.
Cons App is buggy freezes and slow
#3 Fandual pros fast pay app is smooth and has desktop. Con juice higher geo location issues at times not as many markets as top 2 esp live
#4 barstool pros same markets juice as top 2
Payouts fast next day cons no desktop not as many promotions
#5 Point pros desk top and app with good promos decent markets cons takes bit longer for payouts 2-3 days many times, higher juice app harder to maneuver through
6 William Hill pros the smoothest app payouts 2 days cons no desk top the least amount of markets and worst live markets and higher juice

Like ive said join them and use as supplement to offshore its sick the freebies they throw at you and ease of funding is great

FYI, I have Barstool on my desktop.

**littlekona** · 06-24-21, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by tbill1

FYI, I have Barstool on my desktop.

Oh tyvm they must of recently added I now have them as #3

**Kindred** · 06-26-21, 01:09 PM

All legal sites suck, not just the annoying location check, but look at the juice they charge to cover the taxes they have to pay. Don't be a fool, play offshore!

If you insist on legal foxbet/pokerstars website seems to run the smoothest. Still going to pay more in juice than you should but better than DK

**jjgold** · 06-26-21, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Kindred

All legal sites suck, not just the annoying location check, but look at the juice they charge to cover the taxes they have to pay. Don't be a fool, play offshore!

If you insist on legal foxbet/pokerstars website seems to run the smoothest. Still going to pay more in juice than you should but better than DK

yes 90% USa books terrible odds on everything

**tbill1** · 06-27-21, 06:27 PM

For what it's worth...Draft Kings has greatly improved their customer service. When I email them with a problem,
they answer my email within 5 minutes.

**tbill1** · 07-01-21, 12:29 PM

Also...kudos to DK for turning a $25 Greek Freak Double Double loss in to a Bad Beat win!

**CanuckG** · 07-01-21, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Caesars = William Hill now in Pa.?

Yes their mlb margins are solid

**lonegambler23** · 07-01-21, 06:32 PM

just play offshore, log in takes a sec. no need t odrive 40 mins to bet

**LongBall52** · 07-01-21, 07:21 PM

Other than no phone number, I like DK. Yes, they aren't always the most odds friendly, and (for some) you may have to login more than once, but what a relief for feeling secure as a player.