BWIN closed my account after inquiring about cashout.

[BWINcomFraud]

I don't need to read (I read it), for me the fact of so many complaints are coming almost daily from around the world about ONLY Bwin cheats, is enough. This is my money were stolen by Bwin, what you expect me to write about them, a compliments?
Not all cheated players know SBR or other such wonderful sites where warnings can be raised to other players, not everybody knows English. Think of some Chinese or Asian customers in such situation, it is not in their culture to complain, so Asians probably write 1-2 emails to Bwin, get response "SECURITY REASON" and most of them might think that Bwin is right.
On SBR only complaints from people who don't give up, think how many were defrauded and never complained besides to Bwin, how this people feel who can't bring their story to be heared?
I really hope SBR will downgrade Bwin at least to D.

[bwinLuser]

bwinFraud is right.
They are scam 100%. I experienced it on my skin.

When they close account,
If u made minus , u will get your money you tried to withdraw.
If u made plus, u will get just your deposits (so they keep your winnings)
This is not logical.

2) I had ALL possible documents to proove my identity.
To let people make deposits, even they are on some "BWIN BLACK LIST", and then denial to payout, or make different payout outs, depeneding, if you are in - or +

IS CRIME



You CAN NOT take money from someone, and then say "I dont recognize you as valid subject"..
If u accept my money , you automaticaly accept also my identity,otherwise, dont take the money.

In my case , I requested withdraw, waited 15 days, played during this time, made new deposits...
And BWIN was silent. After 15 days I sad,
"guys, no more deposits, until your resolve the situation"

Day after account closed.

SO EVEN I WAS FOR SOME REASON ON THEIR BLACK LIST; THEY DID NOT CLOSED ACCOUNT:
THEY TRIED TO PUMP LAST DROP OF BLOOD OUT OF MY ..
THEY WAITED 15 days , because I made every day new desposits.

WHEN they realised , this player brings no more money, they closed my account, althought I sent them all possible ID's.

They are just stupid.
They will go down, soon, because of their own stupidness...

GL BWIN

[bwinLuser]

Imagine this.

I forgot once the a password. I wrote them . they ASKED for : Address, Date of Birth, City and Postal Code...
I sent all data. And they answerd: "Dear X, thank you , here is your password"

Some time later, after I requested my first withdraw, they closed my account , because of "wrong date of birth"

SOMEONE WHO CAN EXPALIN THIS ????

I will make a story about it and put in on youtube. Just dont have time now...

[BWINcomFraud]

God bless you,

I also want to register a website www.bwinscam.com www.bwinfraud.com www.bwinstealmoney.com www.bwintheft.com www.bwincriminals.com www.norbertteufelberger.com www.manfredbodner.com www.gracorruptiongibraltar.com www.gibraltarcorruption.com www.onlinebettingscamsgibraltar.com I will pay for it, I use www.tripod.com for my business website and I will buy all this domains there, but some of you must promise to check all google search for: Bwin scam, Bwin fraud I want all websites look the same and contain text like SBR individual complaints and complaints from other websites, we can include there Youtube videos self made about how Bwin steals your money, photoes of Bwin executives and board members, all those involved in a scam.
Many people afraid of Bwin as they use some shit lawyer to write scary letters to defrauded customers, but I am launching a full time war against them on the internet, already I did a blog on them but I want to do much, much more.
I need help in terms of technology and website development, I can give passwords to registered domains and let us all work on it, to make the facts about Bwin theft heared even more. We must brake this scamster bookie and put this executives on cocaine (both use drugs) on their knees and the jail term is all what they can hope in the end.

[Santo]

Waste of time and money imo. What amuses me is I've yet to see one of these fraud cases where the player came to the table with clean hands.

[bwinLuser]

Its not waste of time.
If I know, I have right, and bwin i trying to make a monkey out of me, then I will spend a lot of money and time.
U have to fight for your idea.
Therefore I support BWINCOMFRAUD.

PS: The ("CRAZY") player can make more damage to bwin, then bwin to me, stealing couple hundert of euros.
Btw, its not all about money.

[bwinLuser]

here funny video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMwHNWP2pY

someone refused 10K from bwin.

[BWINcomFraud]

I have just watched this video, what it means?
Looks like Bwin scamsters offered some high volume player a bonus to catch him (Bwin Black Jack, Poker and all other games software is a scam, it emamines players experience and if player plays 100% by the rules and can win, they will increase defence against him in particular to brake his account, you may ask how its possible, here: Bwin games are created with RNG technology, its called Random Number Generator, but some pros know how it works by observing cards for too long, then they may expect on some hands higher cards in their favour, when Bwin sees that player pro is winning online BIG TIME, they will switch to other software version without notifying the player and it will brake him, its like stealing cards) but he was smart to refuse it.
The only games where Bwin have a very small possibility to steal its in the Sport Betting, but even this is not 100% sure as they sponsor some sport teams, so it gets them access to individual players in football and they can fix the odds bribing the player whos team is stronger and more bets are coming on it to win, they can bribe this player and only ask him for a very simple thing: Don't play too good, don't run too fast. This is enough for the team to lose!

[bwinLuser]

He is making jokes about their retoric. ( all bookies do that, bwin is the best one)

They allways use words:
Free money, GIFT, money is waiting on you.

Once I got following offer:
100% bonus for casino ,Make deposit, play casino games FOR 3 hours. THEIR SYSTEM will check after 3 hours, if u are still there (logged in,playing, what ever), and then they will give you bonus.

That is so scam-friednly offer, so u just have to refuse it.
Even if would try to stay 3H:00min in casino room, they would me disconnect after 2:59

OR

10 Euro gift for you (font 72), but written in their terms with font (0.72), you have to deposit , you have to play through, you have to wait 24 to realise bonus, you have this and this, and so on.

As I said, all bookies do it, but bwin is grand master, to sell you shity bonus.

[bwinLuser]

It is impossible to predict cards in poker, even the RNDs are not realy randoms.
But nobody can garuntee you, that they dont have some "their players" on the tables, having the access to the "other side of the software".
Interesting at bwin is , that even , if hollliday, working day, night, day, every guaranteed toruenament ALLWAYS have enough player, to fullfill the guaranted prize pool.
Isn't interessting ?

[BWINcomFraud]

The more I read posts about Bwin, the more confident I am that they are run like Bernard's Madoff (65$ billion scam) pyramid fraud, the most players lose anyway, this is not a problem for Bwin, but some players are winning and Bwin have very expensive multimillion expenditures on their advertising, so they run their book in a way to pay some winning players from the losses of losing players, but sometimes it doesn't match, then they need to do this SECURITY REASON trick to close winning accounts.
Bwin is not as big as their market cap is ( 800 mln EUR) on the stock exchange. There is no major shareholders in Bwin like institutional investors, pension funds, mutual funds and equity is controled by insiders 20%, the rest is free float, which means that anybody can buy 80% of Bwin on any single day as this shares are available. That's why Bwin insiders keep the stock price artificially high, all is needed is to place buy orders for very small number of shares to keep the price stable.
Other bookmakers like Ladbrokes, PartyGaming, WilliamHill have very extensive shareholders most of them institutional and if you compare the charts of this books and Bwin, you will see that it doesn't correspond to reality of economic situation, Bwin chart is much higher than of competitors. How come Bwin looks so good compared to Ladbrokes? It is because of stock manipulation, Bwin is listed in Vienna and there is no regulation like listing in UK or US. Look at my link, where Bwin shares that trade on PinkSheets in US are in the DARK/DEFUNCT category by US accounting standards. Hmm.

http://www.mkapital.com/id40.html

[marge12]

I also have 1550 USD damage from them. They are "investigating" my account for 5 month. I am also non-english speaking, and have not wrote anything about this before. They have a huge advertisementm and i ate it. Thought it is a nice book, now i understand it is almost a scam. You know, there exists a ponzi pyramids, called "hyip"s - you think nobody "investing money" into this? You wrong, huge advertisement and people giving their money for 1-2% a day into "forex super guru, who is short of money".
But in my opinion, bwin should be rated d- maximum.

[THEGREAT30]

Why even try these places?

[BWINcomFraud]

Merge12,

please start a new thread with your complain so it will be more widely read. Explain what happened and how it happened.
Probably Bwin will never return you your money, I will go even further - Bwin will never return your money.
You could see in my latest thread about corrupted Phill Brear Head of Gambling Regulation in Gibraltar how he protected Bwin in the clear case of fraud against my account, the money Bwin stole from me are only profits, but does it make a difference? I risked my money to win it. Gibraltar is so corrupted that nothing players will ever get from Bwin, the corruption is so deeply rooted there that it spreads all the small Gibraltar and Spain wants to get it back, because Gibraltar banks help to launder money for Spanish businessmen same as for Russian, Colombian and other mafia types.
In the end it all depends on the top management of a betting company, I have now new account with PartyGaming ( I am not going to recommend it) also regulated??? (****, there is no such thing as r e g u l a t i o n in Gibraltar) there, but I deposited and wired funds from them with 0% problems. Same Ladbrokes, William Hill also use Gibraltar for foreign clients, but in the end it's all about the company involved, not ****ing regulation.
Bwin scam and fraud use Gibraltar to defraud customers, other companies use Gibraltar to offer their services to more customers and never even think about stealing, this is it. But you must write a new thread, this is the only way to explain what happened.
5 months of suffering is too much, I know that in most cases it's not only about the money, it is about a humiliation how big, fraudulent Bwin is stealing funds and credit cards data from players and then players write complaints to GRA they get shit.
Phill Brear is responsible for fraud and theft from players because he allows it as a ****ing Head of Gambling Regulation, Phill Brear is together with the crooks and gets two salaries, one as a cop another as a thiev. Phill Brear thiev, scamster, fraudsters, corrupted old jerk.

[lasereyes777]

bwincomfraud in trouble?

Ha ha ha............. You guys must be crazy.
So you get caught doing fales names and false credit cards and you want your money. Are you stupiiiiiiid or what? These multinationals have supercomputers to track you and check you out. They see everything. If you believe bwinluser or bwincomfraud (maybe same person yeah?) you must be nuts. You guys give scammers a bad name. Take on the big boys like this and you will luse!!! Check out bwincomfrauds crazy crazy site. He craps his cards when he gets caught. Wud you send this guy your money - maybe use a cloned card if you do.

[pohodicka]

What I don't understand is why did BWIN allow you to use a credit card to deposit if the name on the card didn't match the name on the account?

why? because they want to consumer lose money (dont interest whose money). it is the same, why they want proof of +18 age only if you want make first withdraw. why the dont want this document before you bet first stake...

[raddle_snake]

Did you try to do anything funny at their site anot???

[Danyo]

Hey Guys.

I just read this thread and have some questions.

It would be nice if you guys have any advice.

I opened a fake account. I put money on it and played some Poker.

After that I played heads up against one of my friends for fun.

Unfortunately I lost more than I won.

My friend already had an account at bwin but forgot about it. So he opened up a new account with all his real information.

The next day he was at my place and played some poker when suddenly the window closed and it said Account locked / Contact the customer service.

1. So now I want to ask you what is going on? Did they track the IP and saw that we played against and he plays the next day at my place (same IP)?

2. I would like to know if there is a way to get back fake account deposits.

Thanks a lot