Betdsi bonus complaint

[captrobey]

I currently play with betdsi and have a pending bonus. I dont understand the bonus rules. If winnings are added to the roll over, then its infinite. It wouldn't be possible to clear the roll over and win money. I dont understand how anyone can successfully clear the bonus with these specific rules. Only way to clear all the roll over is to lose all the bonus money.

Well you know what funny you should say this. When i was going ballistic on the one guy who gave me bad info i actually said that to him. Because he was trying to tell me my cash amount did not count towards the rollover when i won bets. Which was totally untrue. At the time i had $280 in Bonus money and over $6000 in Cash amount i worked up from $280 there.

He told me only the Bonus amount counted towards the rollover. I told him that made no sense he said that was how it was. So i got mad and ended up just losing it in the casino. Then later i find out he was totally wrong and blew that money for nothing. But then i thought about it . Pretty much what you just said i said to them. Wait, so if i lose the bonus money then technically i could have cashed out not needing to do a rollover anymore with the cash amount. There was a long pause and he finally said- Well, technically yes but i would never do that because you would just be wasting money. But if you happen to have $7000 in the cash amount and $5000 in Bonus with a $200000 rollover i agree i think it is just better to just take a longshot or just blow it because it will be almost impossible to complete a rollover that insanely high.

[Optional]

my problem is when you take the actual bonus and what it says when you accept the actual bonus. My problem is this.

100% Bonus: Sports Cash Bonus (20x Roll) (max bonus $1000)

This is EXTREMELY misleading. Nowhere does it say anything when you take the bonus about anything else.

There is no reference or link to these terms on the advert or on the overall promotions page.

I had to go searching for the terms.

Whilst I agree it's a red flag that shows how fairly/honestly the book thinks by not making the terms more obvious, it's still always up to you as a player to go and find the full terms. Don't be a snowflake who cries they did not spoon feed me so its their fault.

[captrobey]

There is no reference or link to these terms on the advert or on the overall promotions page.

I had to go searching for the terms.

Whilst I agree it's a red flag that shows how fairly/honestly the book thinks by not making the terms more obvious, it's still always up to you as a player to go and find the full terms. Don't be a snowflake who cries they did not spoon feed me so its their fault.

But it is their fault because the rollover they want is so unrealistic if you happen to get into that situation. Noone would ever bother to take a long shot if they knew this up front. When you see 20xs roll you are expecting 20xs roll. That is the box i clicked it did not say anything about exceptions or like the OP said end up where it can be what over a 250xs rollover. I admit i do not go digging through a sportsbooks site looking for rules that may screw me. Whatever the bonus is they have normally gone by what it said when i took the bonus. With the exception of the one place you helped me post those voice messages.

I understand it is somewhere on their site. It still is not right. Maybe i am wrong on my math i am pretty tired but is that not a 250Xs rollover at least? That is not even remotely fair. It does no even say other restrictions may apply it just says 20xs roll when you click the bonus and take it.

[Optional]

But it is their fault because the rollover they want is so unrealistic

But it is your fault for not going to find out the full terms before taking the bonus.

Maybe if you had started gambling recently you could complain, once, but you have no excuse Cappy.


Not that I don't agree they make it tougher than most books to find the terms from the bonus offer page. And I don't like the terms either for myself. But it's still up to me to go find them. They always exist.

[TheGuesser]

I currently play with betdsi and have a pending bonus. I dont understand the bonus rules. If winnings are added to the roll over, then its infinite. It wouldn't be possible to clear the roll over and win money. I dont understand how anyone can successfully clear the bonus with these specific rules. Only way to clear all the roll over is to lose all the bonus money.

Well, I think(hope) that the "winnings" referred to in their rules is the initial winnings from the original bonus amount, like it is in the bolded part of Opti's post. Once that amount is determined, that starts the clock on the 20X rollover, not any additional winnings. There have been reports of people meeting their rollover amount in their bonus account, and converting it to the cash account, so that's what I'm relying on. Confusing as shit though. I currently have 4 separate bonus accounts with them at various stages of betting. 2 are at zero waiting for NFL futures, and 2 I'm actively betting with. As luck would have it, I pushed the game tonight in both those accounts, and they put the amount back, so at least we know that part of their new procedure is true, bonus account bets that push get refunded.

[Shutup]

If you bet the same percentage with the winnings you would had you not hit big, it really is the same. People just want to cash quick and are scared to lose once they got that win. Don't undersand how people don't understand this and why I have to keep repeating it

[captrobey]

But it is your fault for not going to find out the full terms before taking the bonus.

Maybe if you had started gambling recently you could complain, once, but you have no excuse Cappy.


Not that I don't agree they make it tougher than most books to find the terms from the bonus offer page. And I don't like the terms either for myself. But it's still up to me to go find them. They always exist.

Yes i have been doing this a long time. But i have never gone through sites looking for stuff and gotten burned because when i get offered a bonus it always says the terms right there on the site or in an e-mail. Most people do not go digging through a site looking for other stuff. And i do not care if it is something that makes it a little harder . But this situation is 100% unreasonable and next to impossible to complete. It should not exist to begin with but it does so at least stick that with the bonus when you take it because it is a 100% no win situation . Sites i bet at like YW they always make it clear when i take the bonus i never have to be scared i will get screwed here is the e-mail from YW and their offer. But Op really i am easy going. Even if it did not say a 30 day hold and they did that to me. I would be Ok it is still fair you know. But this- this is not fair in the least because it only exists to 100% screw the player into a no win situation. Noone should have to roll over something 250xs .

bonus start at $100 and go all the way to $1000. One is a 50% free play bonus with a 10x rollover and 30 day hold where you can cash out your winnings any time and the second one we have is the 100% free play bonus it has a 15x roll over and 30 day hold were you have to meet the rollover and the 30 day hold to cash out your winnings. With the 100% is if you were going to play for the entire season of football.
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[JAKEPEAVY21]

these bonus rules are absurd but I agree with Optional here.

they are right there in the rules and it is your own fault if you chose not to read them and educate yourself.

[captrobey]

these bonus rules are absurd but I agree with Optional here.

they are right there in the rules and it is your own fault if you chose not to read them and educate yourself.

But it is not right there in the rules you have to go digging around looking for anything additional that may screw you . When i click the bonus this is all it says . My gripe is how badly uneven this is . To have the possibility to go from a 20Xs roll to a 250Xs roll needs to not be hidden somewhere for you to find.

I would not care if this were something reasonable. But it is not. Something This bad needs to be in plain view with the original bonus when you click on it. When you click on a bonus and it has stipulations listed those should be it. You should not have to worry about stuff hidden somewhere in the site. But this - this is WAY out the the realm of normal. Even if it is listed hidden somewhere a player should never have to go from a 20Xs roll to a 250Xs roll just because he won a bet.

100% Bonus: Sports Cash Bonus (20x Roll) (max bonus $1000)

[Jayvegas420]

Caps right.

You said it opti......
They make it a lot harder than other books.
I look at it like they are ruining these types of bonuses for other books. Once you learn of betdsi's terms, the next time the average players see 20x roll over....they assume they are getting taken for a ride again. When most books do it legitimately and don't arbitrarily (secretly) add winnings. To rollover amount.