Nitrogensports.eu DEBATE PROPS RESFUSAL TO PAY

[PharaohUB]

I would be on Nitrogen's side if they had canceled the bet before they walked on stage. They had 25 minutes to cancel the bet and they didn't for Hillary's dress and almost an hour to cancel for Donald's tie color. They left the bets up and continued to take wagers. They knew well before 9PM that something was going on.

If Hillary had not been red, and Trump tie had been a different color, they could have graded all those bets that came in as a loser and nobody would have raised a red flag. Instead they came out in what was shown in the previews, and what they were getting action on. Trump could have easily changed his tie in an hour, no? They realized they were on losing side and canceled bets.

You really don't know if this is how it went down. But if there is one thing I've learned in my life is that anyone in business, especially this business, will take advantage of you when given the opportunity. Another thing I've learned is that when money is involved you bet your ass they saw what was going on. They are in the business of risk management and monitoring this stuff. They knew well before 9PM what was going, yet waited until they came out on stage to announce it was canceled?

Maybe the majority of people deserve to be free-rolled, but I guarantee you not every bet after 8:35 had this knowledge and they were being free rolled.

I really can't think of a better way to recommend they handle it AFTER 9 PM. They obviously can't pay out everyone who bet this prop at those odds and had info. I just think this shows the youth of Nitro and they shouldn't get a free pass on this one. Clearly was not handled correctly...

[muffmoolah]

Well because that is the time I made the wager...that's why it was placed at 7:36. No I did not load more to bet on red, that is one of my least favorite accusations. Are you getting the fact that this was a parking garage 40 minutes roughly before she had been seen again. How can you make the assumption she was going to were that to the debate. Its sad this didn't happen in the states so I could just call the gaming commission hut this is not the legal environment we live in. I will tell you this would not be handled with assumptions and accusations in US court system. IF they keep my money it would be horrible for them. I should not have to explain why.

[muffmoolah]

I know this is not a question for me. But I have personally not seen nitrogen pay a legitimate bet in 3 years of me being there. there have been circumstances that popped up like anywhere else on certain events where people are not going to be happy with how it worked it. But I just literally cannot find one person I know personally that can make argument for non payment. In my opinion nitrogen should not take props that would solve a lot of problems.

[tb1984]

I know this is not a question for me. But I have personally not seen nitrogen pay a legitimate bet in 3 years of me being there. there have been circumstances that popped up like anywhere else on certain events where people are not going to be happy with how it worked it. But I just literally cannot find one person I know personally that can make argument for non payment. In my opinion nitrogen should not take props that would solve a lot of problems.

Muffmoolah, could you post one of your bets(other than this prop) that is at least +2000 odd with a stake of at least .2 BTCs?

[TheSharppie]

Muffmoolah, could you post one of your bets(other than this prop) that is at least +2000 odd with a stake of at least .2 BTCs?

LOL thank you!

[muffmoolah]

What are you thanking him for? I bet ranges from 0.005-10 BTC over the last year. I have already addressed I did not have knowledge of this I will not address. If for some reason it matters to you I loaded more money after the color red had been removed and bet more props. I will not be addressing your opinions or assumptions on why you think I did or didn't do something without facts. Your accusations will not help my position or nitrogens. It will only deflect from the proper topics. It would of been interesting if red went to -10000 on the props 20 minutes out. before the event started though what happens when they don't pay it then?

Take this into consideration when making a wager next time based on the impact of public knowledge, when you bet Louisville at +3.5 and it moves to -2 the book can cancel your bet and say you bet with public knowledge it was moving in Louisville favor. And if you ask how they can cancel this. All they have to say is because Lamar is BAD BAD man and you had to know this because everyone does. He would win right that was a obviously bad line. But to be fair nitro did not make they statement on public knowledge a admin did here. Which is even scarier considering this is where people come to correct sportsbooks wrongs.

[TheSharppie]

What are you thanking him for? I bet ranges from 0.005-10 BTC over the last year. I have already addressed I did not have knowledge of this I will not address. If for some reason it matters to you I loaded more money after the color red had been removed and bet more props. I will not be addressing your opinions or assumptions on why you think I did or didn't do something without facts. Your accusations will not help my position or nitrogens. It will only deflect from the proper topics. It would of been interesting if red went to -10000 on the props 20 minutes out. before the event started though what happens when they don't pay it then?

Take this into consideration when making a wager next time based on the impact of public knowledge, when you bet Louisville at +3.5 and it moves to -2 the book can cancel your bet and say you bet with public knowledge it was moving in Louisville favor. And if you ask how they can cancel this. All they have to say is because Lamar is BAD BAD man and you had to know this because everyone does. He would win right that was a obviously bad line. But to be fair nitro did not make they statement on public knowledge a admin did here. Which is even scarier considering this is where people come to correct sportsbooks wrongs.

you can't intelligently contend a known outcome is the same as a line movement in a football game. come on, man. you put the rest of your roll on hillary to wear red. then you redeposited so you could load more up onto this bet. you aren't defending this intelligently - its indefensible.

[muffmoolah]

Pharaoh cancelling was really the best thing they could of done before the beginning of the event or release a statement before it began one way or another regarding it. They could of done something anything to remedy but they did not if they had cancelled I would not be here. I would of never had a action bet.

[muffmoolah]

you are making assumptions and accusations that have no impact on the result of this matter they will not determine has they it is resolved.

[tb1984]

What are you thanking him for? I bet ranges from 0.005-10 BTC over the last year. I have already addressed I did not have knowledge of this I will not address. If for some reason it matters to you I loaded more money after the color red had been removed and bet more props. I will not be addressing your opinions or assumptions on why you think I did or didn't do something without facts. Your accusations will not help my position or nitrogens. It will only deflect from the proper topics. It would of been interesting if red went to -10000 on the props 20 minutes out. before the event started though what happens when they don't pay it then?

Take this into consideration when making a wager next time based on the impact of public knowledge, when you bet Louisville at +3.5 and it moves to -2 the book can cancel your bet and say you bet with public knowledge it was moving in Louisville favor. And if you ask how they can cancel this. All they have to say is because Lamar is BAD BAD man and you had to know this because everyone does. He would win right that was a obviously bad line. But to be fair nitro did not make they statement on public knowledge a admin did here. Which is even scarier considering this is where people come to correct sportsbooks wrongs.

When you bet this prop at 8:36 after seeing Hilary Clinton with red suit, it would be like betting on a football team with 28 point lead going into the 4th with an odd of +2000.

[muffmoolah]

What happens when key players from a team get injured and will not play and it is public on tv and some bettors get non affected lines of the injurys. The book has a right to cancel the bets after the event has began and freeroll the injury bettors? And take into consideration I did not have knowledge.

[tb1984]

What happens when key players from a team get injured and will not play and it is public on tv and some bettors get non affected lines of the injurys. The book has a right to cancel the bets after the event has began and freeroll the injury bettors? And take into consideration I did not have knowledge.

Again, I'll believe you if you could post one of your bet that is at least +2000 odd with a stake of at least .2 BTCs.


It's never a good idea to take shots at books, because they can free-roll you.

[muffmoolah]

You didn't address one thing I said but demand useless information again. I also do not appreciate you having the American flag as your avatar it is disrespectful to the flag and the principles of my Country and people. I am innocent until proven guilty there is no evidence to suggest I am guilty of anything. I will not be responding to any more comments you make. You are diverting from the topic and deflecting.

[tb1984]

You didn't address one thing I said but demand useless information again. I also do not appreciate you having the American flag as your avatar it is disrespectful to the flag and the principles of my Country and people. I am innocent until proven guilty there is no evidence to suggest I am guilty of anything. I will not be responding to any more comments you make. You are diverting from the topic and deflecting.

Which one that I did not address?

Uh what? You're telling me what to do with my avatar?

How is it disrespectful to the U.S?

[muffmoolah]

You have continued to make assumptions based on how you feel. There is nothing regarding other bets that would affect my outcome unless I made bets that were not legitimate which I have not. That is not the issue here and for some reason you think it matters. You are declaring me guilty of something you couldn't prove without knowing my intent which you don't. But I have told you my intent and it was never malicious and I was unknowing. I may not have your endorsement in my attempts to collect my the and that is fine.

My comments regarding the flag were in reference to it being the only thing I see on your profile I don't know much about you but I do see the flag next to your name. I was irritated you continued to tell me I was guilty of something with no proof. I apologize if this offended you I was out of line with that statement.

[muffmoolah]

TB I not exactly sure at the exact time stamp on my slip what second mark it went in and honestly I have no clue what time Clinton was on TV but could it be possible nitrogen knew that she was on tv earlier via other cable or local television services and make the cut of time seconds before my bet was official? My bet could of been 6:36:3 seconds and by the statement the cut off was 7:35:59 seconds is this possible this was done on purpose for loss prevention.

[luctens]

A bunch of idiots arguing about which colour outfit some old lady wore on TV. What a load of degenerates.

[RonPaul2008]

What happens when key players from a team get injured and will not play and it is public on tv and some bettors get non affected lines of the injurys. The book has a right to cancel the bets after the event has began and freeroll the injury bettors? And take into consideration I did not have knowledge.

No, it's a completely different situation. The result of the match is not known (and yes, I get that the result wasn't exactly 100% known in your circumstance).

[muffmoolah]

Actually it is not much different at all the results were unknown I spoke to nitrogen about this after it received a lot of attention earlier. Previously they told me they would not talk about it again. They told me they would talk to me all night if need be earlier tonight. They told me in the chat Hillary being in red at 7:35 did not prove or not prove she would were red. Then I asked how it was a bad line if at 7:35 it did not conclusively show anything from the photo to impact the wager. They seized communication at this point and said they would discuss it tomorrow.

[TheTroof]

Can you explain why you placed a bet 1/14 the size of your red jacket bet on yellow/gold jacket 20 minutes earlier?

I find it interesting you failed to mention that, seeing as it may (or may not) be considered relevant in the court of public opinion. Not trying to beat a dead horse, but in the interest of full disclosure it maybe should be something that you should have mentioned?

Sorry, but I just can't wrap my head around why you bet a fraction of what you bet on red on yellow/gold 20 mins prior, and then want the world to believe that you had some kind of epiphany to bet red HARD after the information was made public that she was wearing red without any prior knowledge.

Regardless if you did or did not see the color, that action alone, and the failure to disclose it in your complaint, reeks of a failed angleshoot.

[muffmoolah]

Troof I addressed this earlier I did not know. I am in shook of the irresponsibility of the admin here suggesting that it was public knowledge. well everything in movement is public knowledge that was a ignornant statement. I am not surprised he did not respond. What is irritating is when they suggested in a cover statement that 2nd debate backers need to bed there bets in early to avoid them being voided due to public knowledge. I cannot wrap my head around how ignorant a person would have to be to make such a statement. Why do'n't they just explain a boom can cancel any book can cancel any bet at any given time because they are not regulated.

It is a position that cannot be defended by anyone but a low level scammer. this was not a past post nor a angle it was a error on nitros part defended by person that is for profit in regards to the reviews they receive I have made the decision to re open via other outlets.\

The only case people have made against me is "I must of been angling" etc there is no other case for none payment and those are just opinions. When you book a bet and the line changes in your favor and it is action and after the action it wins you should be paid.

[evo34]

This thread just took years off my life. Holy sh1t. Please go away.

[michael777]

stop taking shots at book son

[muffmoolah]

stop taking shots at book son

If you knew better you would do better. Don't make assumptions it will always cause you trouble.