Parimatch.com request a false document !

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  • djofed
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-24-15
    • 12

    #1
    Parimatch.com request a false document !
    My incredible story with parimatch.com. I'm new to this forum, which was recommended to me to
    fight against abuse.
    I am a small bettor who has never had a problem with a book.
    Until I met parimatch.com
    This is an "exotic" book. Register was a mistake.
    To begin, I sent a copy of my ID card. Their response: "provide Response
    letter in the best quality of Your ID-card". Strange because this copy
    is perfect and has never been denied. I should have beware at that time.
    So I sent a copy of my driver's license.
    I made a first deposit of €100. After many losses, I redeposited €100.
    And suddenly, my account was blocked.
    I should mention that my 2 deposits were made with virtual cards.
    I guess you know: cards usable only on internet, which serve only once.
    The ultimate security.
    Parimatch ask me to prove that the virtual cards are mine. I sent them a
    screenshot of the program with which I can generate virtual cards. My
    name and digits of virtual cards appear (see attached files). Click image for larger version

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    Overall, I sent them 19 documents !!
    Now, they write: " "provide us the documental proof that you have opened
    virtual cards with bank's signature. You have your bank account so Bank
    has to give you this document". They want a signature from my bank but
    my bank can not know the digits of my virtual cards. The bank
    know only the digits of my real credit card because it is my real credit
    card who is debited. Only the number of my real credit card appear on my
    bank statement. I can not give them a document who does not exist !
    Maybe my bank could give me this document but it would be a false !
    Numbers of virtual cards are private !
    The situation is blocked as long as they do not want to understand that
    a virtual card number can not appear on a bank statement.
    I asked them to refund my Neteller deposits but they do not reply. I
    deposited €135 with Neteller ( 3,2% fees ! ) and it remains only €109.18
    on my balance. And my rollover is 277 €. This money has nothing to do
    with my credit card deposits that were lost with my bets. And they asked
    me to make another deposit with Neteller when they wrote "To resolve
    this situation You need to make a deposit with electronic payment
    system".I listened naively. My account was locked and I could not use
    this last deposit !
    I am desperate because €109.18 is a very large sum for me, small bettor.
    Their English is deplorable, it is difficult to understand, they do not
    know the politeness, they are slow to respond or do not respond at all.
    I bent all their requirements and do not know what to do. They are crooks.
    Please help me!
  • moldenor
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-26-15
    • 2

    #2
    Why register in the first place with such "exotic" spotsbooks? (especially controlled by Russians?
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    • djofed
      SBR Rookie
      • 12-24-15
      • 12

      #3
      Originally posted by moldenor
      Why register in the first place with such "exotic" spotsbooks? (especially controlled by Russians?
      My error. But it is very difficult to find a book which accept my country. That is why I tried Parimatch. They do not respond to my messages. They are able to ignore me and keep my money without reply. I filled a complaint form against this gang of thugs.
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      • djofed
        SBR Rookie
        • 12-24-15
        • 12

        #4
        And now they ask me to make another deposit ! (on the chat in russian language...) That is what they said 15 days ago so I deposited again by Neteller but my account remained blocked.
        I think they are joking. So easy for them ...
        Last edited by djofed; 12-28-15, 03:33 PM.
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        • djofed
          SBR Rookie
          • 12-24-15
          • 12

          #5
          "Unfortunately, there is no possibility to unlock your gaming account without the requested documents.
          According to our specialists, there must be some kind of official document from your bank that confirms the creation of those virtual cards."


          "Some kind of official document" ! They do not know themselves what they want !
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          • djofed
            SBR Rookie
            • 12-24-15
            • 12

            #6
            I forwarded them a message from my bank. This message confirms that the bank can not provide documents concerning the virtual card numbers because the bank knows only the number of my real credit card . And I sent them copies of my contract. It is stipulated in the contract that on the bank statement, the operations performed by virtual cards appear with the real card number. I can not do more, apart from making a false document !
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            • Winpro
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-29-08
              • 140

              #7
              djofed
              It's better to use real cards for depositing and withdrawing money from sportsbooks. And Skrill is best of all.
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              • eberetta1
                SBR MVP
                • 03-27-09
                • 1157

                #8
                Yea, rubles sound like the preferred deposit method on this site
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                • djofed
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-24-15
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Nothing to do. They continue to ask me a document that does not exist.
                  I can send them all the evidence, they are stuck on their idea.
                  I am talking to a wall. I give up. Beware with those crooks.
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                  • djofed
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 12-24-15
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Remember.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61445

                      #11
                      Did this get sorted out yet Djofed?
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                      • djofed
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-24-15
                        • 12

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        Did this get sorted out yet Djofed?
                        No. Impossible for me to give them a document that my bank can not provide.
                        They do not know what is a virtual card and they do not want to understand that I can create 1000 or more virtual cards per day. And my bank will never have access to the numbers of those virtual cards. My bank knows only the number of my real credit card. I can repeat and repeat, they are stubborn.
                        See attachments in my first post. We clearly see the transactions. What can I do ?
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61445

                          #13
                          Maybe obtain a letter/email from your bank explaining they are unable to provide this to you and send them that?

                          They have recently paid another player with a dispute open against them but are not communicating with SBR at this point in time.
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                          • Hareeba!
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 07-01-06
                            • 37209

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            Maybe obtain a letter/email from your bank explaining they are unable to provide this to you and send them that?
                            He's already done that.
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                            • djofed
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 12-24-15
                              • 12

                              #15
                              Yes, I sent them a letter from my bank. A wall...
                              Last edited by djofed; 01-14-16, 01:51 PM.
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                              • bozeman
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-11-09
                                • 2162

                                #16
                                listen to a person who grew up in russia and dealt with russian bookies: bookmakers in russia have no respect for their clients, except for marathonbet.com which is very organized and the only russian bookie that i had no issues with over about 5 years of betting.
                                The only language other bookies understand there is if you file a police report of fraud against them - then they will return your money in a heartbeat. Why not bet with pinnaclesports or betfair.com? What country do u live in?

                                Speaking of parimatch - they are a cheap franchise - their web design is ancient and their lines are sold for about a 100 dollars to franchisees per month - and they dont update their odds very swiftly which makes them very vulnerable but as they dont mainly have to pay for losses - they dont care - i suspect their office has like 4-5 people in it, lines are slightly altered from other books and their it department has 1 sole guy in it who is just unlucky to be not knowlegdeable about your virtual cards and he thinks you are scamming him - which is impossible to prove otherwise for u - cause he simply has little time amidst his other duties.

                                Lesson to learn for you bro search deeper - i am sure there are A rated bookies that will accept u as a client
                                Last edited by bozeman; 01-18-16, 11:04 AM.
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                                • Caip34000
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-22-15
                                  • 110

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bozeman
                                  listen to a person who grew up in russia and dealt with russian bookies: bookmakers in russia have no respect for their clients, except for marathonbet.com which is very organized and the only russian bookie that i had no issues with over about 5 years of betting.
                                  The only language other bookies understand there is if you file a police report of fraud against them - then they will return your money in a heartbeat. Why not bet with pinnaclesports or betfair.com? What country do u live in?

                                  Speaking of parimatch - they are a cheap franchise - their web design is ancient and their lines are sold for about a 100 dollars to franchisees per month - and they dont update their odds very swiftly which makes them very vulnerable but as they dont mainly have to pay for losses - they dont care - i suspect their office has like 4-5 people in it, lines are slightly altered from other books and their it department has 1 sole guy in it who is just unlucky to be not knowlegdeable about your virtual cards and he thinks you are scamming him - which is impossible to prove otherwise for u - cause he simply has little time amidst his other duties.

                                  Lesson to learn for you bro search deeper - i am sure there are A rated bookies that will accept u as a client
                                  I played there and they seems find to me, not better but not worse than other Russian Bookmaker
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