Are female sports bettors unfairly targeted by fraud departments?

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  • SBR Forum
    Administrator
    • 12-02-06
    • 4559

    #1
    Are female sports bettors unfairly targeted by fraud departments?
    What do you think?

    That's the question being posed in a dispute raised against Betin Sportsbook.
  • ByeShea
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-30-08
    • 8097

    #2
    Originally posted by SBR Forum
    What do you think?

    That's the question being posed in a dispute raised against Betin Sportsbook.
    There's about 100 female sports bettors in the United States - and most of them are bull dykes. They should be thankful anyone is targeting them at all.
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    • Smoke
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-09-09
      • 48111

      #3
      "Granny may very well be the biggest whale in the room"

      I knew saer's granny was up to something
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      • relaaxx
        SBR MVP
        • 06-15-06
        • 3281

        #4
        yes. thinking it may really be someone who has already been limited or restricted for some reason. a male who is betting using a female to join and bet again unrestricted or double up on bonus maybe. it's stupid but i can see books doing this easy.
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        • TheMoneyShot
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-14-07
          • 28672

          #5
          Women need to stick to the kitchen, cooking, and cleaning toilets.
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          • relaaxx
            SBR MVP
            • 06-15-06
            • 3281

            #6
            cavemen exist ---
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            • daneblazer
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-14-08
              • 27861

              #7
              Yea they are. Only because guys set up and use their girlfriends, sister, wives, etc an account to bonus whore.
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              • Maniac
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-12-11
                • 667

                #8
                Books should always try to judge an account according to the business a client is giving them, but at the same time there are a number of typical stereotypes that can usually act as an early indicator as to how good or bad a client is likely to be in the long run. Unfortunately being a female seems to be one of these, as are age, country of origin and numerous other factors - and using these stereotypes to make decisions is something I think that every single person does in their life in general, not just gambling.

                An example of one I use myself when playing poker online is that if possible I will try not to sit down at a table with more than 50% Scandinavians. Why? Well, in my personal experience I have found that Scandinavians in general tend to play a lot tighter and are unlikely to throw their chips in on lesser quality hands and thus for me playing against them it becomes a bit of a grind so I prefer to try and find a table that "looks" a bit easier to beat.

                Now that is my own view which has been built on my own (limited) experiences, but I would suspect that a number of you would have similar views or have your own stereotypes that you have based on your own experiences.

                Magnify these stereotypes to a sportsbook fraud department who see the same things day after day and patterns will start to form - one of these (as someone has already mentioned here) is that while there are a number of legitimate female gamblers, there are a higher number of female accounts that are being used by men whose own accounts have been limited or closed or who are wanting to double up on bonuses etc.

                It is not a perfect system, and there will always been some mistakes made one way or another, but ultimately it is obvious that sportsbooks use their own stereotypes in order to protect themselves.

                Another example of this is the fact that a lot of books will have more stringent ID rules depending on what country a client is from. How many complaints have we seen in the S+I forum where (usually) Eastern European clients are having to jump through a lot more hoops than the rest of us in order to prove their ID's. While sending in a copy of a passport and copy of a utility bill is usually good enough for most of us, there are a lot of clients who have to send in all sorts on top of this such as signed statements from a public official and even photos holding their ID next to their face. I don't necessarily agree with some of these steps, but it is obviously something that the sportbooks have been burned with in the past and have decided that certain clients need to do more to prove they are who they say they are.

                These stereotypes (rightly or wrongly) are stereotypes for a reason unfortunately.
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                • BennyBigNuts
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-16-12
                  • 8700

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                  There's about 100 female sports bettors in the United States - and most of them are bull dykes. They should be thankful anyone is targeting them at all.
                  End of thread. To the saloon with this now.
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                  • physed
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-29-09
                    • 1176

                    #10
                    Kellyinvegas is too hot
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                    • dance1959
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 01-20-14
                      • 136

                      #11
                      I would say there is percent of female bettors. Maybe the most they have in England. But people shouldnt undermine this fact. In Europe you have local bookie shops on every corner,and you have roulette and slot machines within the shop. Betting legal so you can see everyone there spending half of their day betting and gambling. Situation is even more serious in eastern Europe,because of low standard and small salaries. I dont bet in local so thankfully im avoiding this kind of people,but women have good percent.

                      Now regarding online betting and disputes,hmmm.I think part of those women signups are favor for son,brother... who arent rightful to bet,to b precise under 18. But there is some fraudulent activity as taking advantage of bonus,syndicate betting etc...

                      I think most important is patter how SHE bet,if is resembling to some fraudulent activity book shoul put stop on that,otherwise its just another account.
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                      • gloriesam
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-10-14
                        • 124

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SBR Forum
                        What do you think?

                        That's the question being posed in a dispute raised against Betin Sportsbook.
                        Yes. Majority of the female accounts are multiple accounts of guys (who got banned, limited or kicked out etc) using the wife's, mothers or grandma's account.

                        I have used my wifes and mothers name to open on accounts in atleast 3 different square books once they limited me or locked me out.
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                        • Reload
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-23-08
                          • 12249

                          #13
                          Is Cory Roth's mom still hitting Royal flushes out there?
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Vegas you will see hot chicks in sportsbooks betting although I think some beards

                            Books do not care if a man or a woman

                            It all depends on what Country your from as some countries are targeted more by books because of high risk of fraud
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82804

                              #15
                              This is 2015. No discrimination against women should be tolerated. The government should go after the books who discriminate and enforce laws.
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                              • Kindred
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-09-08
                                • 2901

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Reload
                                Is Cory Roth's mom still hitting Royal flushes out there?
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61495

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by gloriesam
                                  Yes. Majority of the female accounts are multiple accounts of guys (who got banned, limited or kicked out etc) using the wife's, mothers or grandma's account.

                                  I have used my wifes and mothers name to open on accounts in atleast 3 different square books once they limited me or locked me out.
                                  ^^^ This is why women are viewed with suspicion.

                                  The other issue women have is how many are attracted to "risk free profit" sites that advocate hedging out bonuses without any intention to gamble.
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