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  • guerrix
    SBR Hustler
    • 03-11-14
    • 88

    #1
    Marathonbet - Not Paying - "Palpable Error"
    Hi, would like to know if someone can give some more info if this that i will report its a usual thing in marathonbet.
    I made two small bets (thank god it where small), one of 21.27€ on odd 3.35 , it was away team to win in 1st half, the result was 0-1 in the end of the first half, won and when i check i get void. The other was of 5.7€ for a odd of 2.12, end of the game result, won and got void again.
    Contacted their live support (rude i think, since didn´t let the conversation end to send me the transcript that i will post next:
    Chat 2014.03.09
    Anita
    22:54:12
    Hello
    Anita
    22:54:17
    Could you please confirm your full name, e-mail address and your full date of birth?
    Vitor
    22:54:41
    Vitor ******** - email address - 18/`++/++++
    Vitor
    22:55:10
    lake stated in the initial message, want my account to be with the correct balance
    Anita
    22:56:20
    can you please confirm your city of birth
    Vitor
    22:56:58
    ********* - Porto - Portugal
    Vitor
    22:57:03
    address current :
    Anita
    22:57:07
    Thank you
    Vitor
    22:57:09
    want that too?
    Anita
    22:57:12
    Your account is open
    Vitor
    22:57:25
    yes
    Anita
    22:58:02
    Is there a problem with your balance?
    Vitor
    22:58:32
    yes... bets i made, won and not showing on my balance Single @ € 21.27 (€ 21.27) * Total Price: 3.35Single @ € 5.70 (€ 5.70) * Total Price: 2.12
    Anita
    23:00:00
    Numbers please
    Vitor
    23:00:36
    numbers?
    Vitor
    23:01:09
    #17 and #18... is this?
    Anita
    23:03:05
    Thank you
    Anita
    23:03:18
    there was a palpable error with this event and all bets have been voided
    Vitor
    23:03:44
    "Palpable error"? Define palpable error...
    Anita
    23:04:15
    PLease see our rule 7.1.3
    Anita
    23:04:27
    - Url Removed -
    Vitor
    23:04:41
    so... Any bet that i win can this rule be used?
    Vitor
    23:04:49
    Just a yes or no question
    Anita
    23:05:45
    Not unless there is a reason
    Vitor
    23:06:22
    I asked if this rule can be used in any bet... A starait yes or No is fine for me
    Anita
    23:07:04
    Not unless there is a reason
    Anita
    23:07:08
    Is there anything else I can help you with at this time?
    Vitor
    23:07:24
    so u dont want to answer to what i´m saying start? ok...
    Vitor
    23:07:45
    can i ask if this conversation can be logged to my e-mail?
    Anita
    23:08:02
    Yes of course
    So, what it seems to me is that if you win some bet, and they dont want to pay, they say that ther´s "palpable error", and after i ask what is this palpable error, i got no answer, contacted thru e-mail and nothing.
    Can any one explain me what is this palpable error thing, since they didnt.

    Thnk you
    Vitor Queiros
  • onemoregoal
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-04-13
    • 8149

    #2
    just google "palaple errior" rule!
    Books have this rule to protect themselves if the price they gave was a genuine mistake, or if their price was much bigger than other books.
    Its designed as a back up rule, its not supposed to be enforced all the time for every single bet (like your $25 bets)
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    • guerrix
      SBR Hustler
      • 03-11-14
      • 88

      #3
      Contacted IBAS - Independent Betting Adjudication Service to check rhis, that this is almost never used by bookies...
      And if the ammount was big... not even 30€ envolved
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      • onemoregoal
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-04-13
        • 8149

        #4
        it depends what your bet was.
        Comment
        • guerrix
          SBR Hustler
          • 03-11-14
          • 88

          #5
          Like stated... was a HT team bet and ft team bet... As you can see the odds are not that big...
          Loosing faith in this bookie..
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          • alexwalstow
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-13-14
            • 48

            #6
            I don't think IBAS regulate Marathon, at least that's what Marathon told me?
            Comment
            • guerrix
              SBR Hustler
              • 03-11-14
              • 88

              #7
              Yes... Got response from IBAS, they cant help me on that.
              Well, May this be used as a warning to others about marathon.
              Comment
              • pjesnik24
                Restricted User
                • 11-01-05
                • 1286

                #8
                You should tell us the game, result and at what minute was the bet made and then anyone can tell you was it ok to cancel or not
                Comment
                • guerrix
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 03-11-14
                  • 88

                  #9
                  07.03 22:52
                  € 5.70
                  Single
                  Half With Most Goals - 2nd Half
                  € 5.70

                  #18 Bet Source: Mobile

                  Single @ € 5.70 (€ 5.70)

                  Total Price: 2.12

                  08 mar 03:30 Futebol / Japan / J.League / Division 1 / Sanfrecce Hiroshima vs Kawasaki Frontale / Half With Most Goals - 2nd Half @ 2.12 Void

                  07.03 22:51
                  € 21.27
                  Single
                  Result - 1st Half - Kawasaki Frontale To Win
                  € 21.27

                  #17 Bet Source: Mobile

                  Single @ € 21.27 (€ 21.27)

                  Total Price: 3.35

                  08 mar 03:30 Futebol / Japan / J.League / Division 1 / Sanfrecce Hiroshima vs Kawasaki Frontale / Result - 1st Half - Kawasaki Frontale To Win @ 3.35 0:1 Void
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                  • caveira
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-07-11
                    • 532

                    #10
                    Originally posted by onemoregoal
                    just google "palaple errior" rule!
                    Books have this rule to protect themselves if the price they gave was a genuine mistake, or if their price was much bigger than other books.
                    Its designed as a back up rule, its not supposed to be enforced all the time for every single bet (like your $25 bets)
                    Very well said! This is how it works!
                    Comment
                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #11
                      Do Russians own this book?
                      Comment
                      • guerrix
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 03-11-14
                        • 88

                        #12
                        Not sure, but i think they do...
                        Comment
                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388189

                          #13
                          Such a big topic in sportsbook forum

                          This book always in the news both positive and negative
                          Comment
                          • hristo1971
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-04-09
                            • 46

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Do Russians own this book?
                            I don't know if owners are Russians, but live chat support is Russion for sure. They are rude and stupid. One night I wanted to make a deposit and I needed their help to remove old method (Neteller) and add a new one (card). I struggled for hours to communicate with them without succes, they kept saying "No English until tomorrow morning" and then I translated in Russian with google and tried that way but they did not answer.
                            Comment
                            • Zchashm
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 03-18-14
                              • 6

                              #15
                              marathon bet suspended my account with 6000$ for 21 days with no reason and they just annoying me , answering mails after 10 days
                              i cant trust this bookie any more
                              Comment
                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #16
                                There are some crazy stories with this book, hopefully SBR working with management to eliminate some of the problems there.
                                Comment
                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by guerrix
                                  07.03 22:52
                                  € 5.70
                                  Single
                                  Half With Most Goals - 2nd Half
                                  € 5.70

                                  #18 Bet Source: Mobile

                                  Single @ € 5.70 (€ 5.70)

                                  Total Price: 2.12

                                  08 mar 03:30 Futebol / Japan / J.League / Division 1 / Sanfrecce Hiroshima vs Kawasaki Frontale / Half With Most Goals - 2nd Half @ 2.12 Void

                                  07.03 22:51
                                  € 21.27
                                  Single
                                  Result - 1st Half - Kawasaki Frontale To Win
                                  € 21.27

                                  #17 Bet Source: Mobile

                                  Single @ € 21.27 (€ 21.27)

                                  Total Price: 3.35

                                  08 mar 03:30 Futebol / Japan / J.League / Division 1 / Sanfrecce Hiroshima vs Kawasaki Frontale / Result - 1st Half - Kawasaki Frontale To Win @ 3.35 0:1 Void
                                  Have you presented them with a comparison of other bookmakers' odds for same bets? Can see the odds for Frontale to win 1st half on other sites here... http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/jap...zDBtGT1/#1X2;3

                                  I dont see how they can claim it was a "palpable error"
                                  Comment
                                  • guerrix
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 03-11-14
                                    • 88

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    Have you presented them with a comparison of other bookmakers' odds for same bets? Can see the odds for Frontale to win 1st half on other sites here... http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/jap...zDBtGT1/#1X2;3

                                    I dont see how they can claim it was a "palpable error"
                                    Exactly, contacted them, but got no response...
                                    Still no answer for this "palpable error"... What happened here can happen to anyone... you win... palp... you lost... all good... not fair.
                                    Comment
                                    • guerrix
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 03-11-14
                                      • 88

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Such a big topic in sportsbook forum

                                      This book always in the news both positive and negative
                                      All i can see is negative things...
                                      Comment
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