who runs the show at heritage the way tony does at 5 dimes and spiro at greek ?

[lecubs28]

That was the old reputation, but they have not nearly limited players like they did before the merger.

lol once again you have no idea what you're talking about

heritage limits anyone and everyone who wins, and does so quickly. making matters worse, you'll then get put on their sharp line set and likely never see any decent lines again.

brian do you really not know anything or are you just trolling us sometimes?

[touchback]

lol once again you have no idea what you're talking about

heritage limits anyone and everyone who wins, and does so quickly. making matters worse, you'll then get put on their sharp line set and likely never see any decent lines again.

brian do you really not know anything or are you just trolling us sometimes?

Man Cubs... seem to be running into you tonight. Will say this because it is known, accurate and says on the SBR ratings guide. Heritage uses the ASI platform which manages individual player account profiles instead of grouping profiles like DGS. This means that not only can the delay be applied to that specific account so can the juice and or line set be applied to individual markets on that specific account at the snap of ones fingers. This goes for any and all offered markets with specific profiles adjusted based on the players action history. Cubs, it sounds like you are basically status non gratis over there. Wear it as a badge of honor I guess, they obviously think you are sharp, what else can you do.

[flyingillini]

I just got a pm from the poster that made this thread. What an idiot. Here it is

kitkat
Become A Pro!
Posts: 27 SBR Points: 126
main guy at heritage

i just started on sbr but i been in this business a very long time you dont know me i dont know you u shouldnt judge when i played at greek spiro always took my calls just never knew the founder of heritage they got people changing all the time if a problem ever arises wanted to make sure the money is safe dont we all dont judge on posts thats all

[flyingillini]

This guy sounds like he has an education of a 2nd grader. Learn proper English

[BrianLaverty]

I find it very hard to believe that someone as broke as lecubs is is anywhere close to being labeled as sharp.

This is a guy who just follows everything that is said on 2p2 and repeats it as his own.

Fwiw... I haven't heard about anyone getting limited in a long time at heritage. 2+ years ago... They had the rep as limiting winners and sometimes kicking them out.. It was very common. Now? Much different team in charge and they are very slow to limit.

Lecubs is nothing but a broke penetrate who idolizes rsigley and the rest of the losers over there

[BrianLaverty]

I also wanna add that if you beat them on small markets like props.. Obviously they are gonna limit you and label you sharp. Every book outside of pinnacle will limit you for beating them on props.. That's the nature of the business right now and probably will always be in the future.

[lecubs28]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2362952-whatever-happened-heritage-sports-being-classy.html#post18728060

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2362952-whatever-happened-heritage-sports-being-classy.html#post18736728

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2362952-whatever-happened-heritage-sports-being-classy.html#post18740562

summary of the above: brian laverty first says no there is no proof of heritage dealing dual lines, then he bluffs and says post a screenshot if they are really dealing dual lines! then a screenshot is posted and he says "i'm not going to comment one way or another on heritage dealing dual lines"

now he contradicts again in this thread:

Fwiw... I haven't heard about anyone getting limited in a long time at heritage. 2+ years ago... They had the rep as limiting winners and sometimes kicking them out.. It was very common. Now? Much different team in charge and they are very slow to limit.

I also wanna add that if you beat them on small markets like props.. Obviously they are gonna limit you and label you sharp.

cause nothing screams "sharp" like beating $250 markets

brian lay off the glue ok guy? you're not making sense

http://imgur.com/WW8eegF

[kitkat]

illini i find nothing wrong with the pm i sent, if you think im of 2nd grade level this would be you judging once again, im sorry for speaking to you about this post ive started, dont respond if you have nothing to say about the post.

[kitkat]

if you ask anybody on the board they will say my english is fine if youre in a bad mood,because of youre losses that shouldnt be a reason for you to be insulting me.

[flyingillini]

Kitkat, ESL is your friend! Take advantage of your local ESL classes, they are free. You know nothing about Heritage, now dare you speak negative about them. Your treading here, the higher ups are not happy with you.

[kitkat]

no thanks my english is very good, i never spoke negative about heritage, all i say is likes and dislikes about the place just like the other thousand posters here on sbr, atleast i think you meant how dare i speak negative of them, and not now i dare speak negative of them i think youre the one who should look into the esl classes

[dark star]

lol once again you have no idea what you're talking about

heritage limits anyone and everyone who wins, and does so quickly. making matters worse, you'll then get put on their sharp line set and likely never see any decent lines again.

brian do you really not know anything or are you just trolling us sometimes?

Wow....You are a clueless wonder

[kitkat]

whats up with the post i started , every one insulting one another, this was not my intent, if everyone can please stop, everone is entitled to there opinion but this is nonsence

[kitkat]

and illini if the higher ups are not happy with me this is sad,whoever the higher ups might be, because everyone is entitled to there opinion,and i have not made yet one deragatory remark about heritage just comparing sportsbooks and discussing sportsbooks and there industries,thats all

[chris.fernon]

Sportsbook is a scam ! They ripped me off for 2,122 usd. I requested a withdrawal. After weeks , I got a Canadian check. My bank would not take it because it was a foreign check. My credit union took it but said it would take 6 weeks to clear. The check was returned, 'CHECK DISONOURED'. I called Sportsbook's 1-888-666-9085, I was put on automatic hold and eventually hung up on. I went to their live chat. Here is there response.

You are currently customer 1 in queue. An agent should be available in 0 minutes.


Hello, my name is Jenny Phillips. I'll be assisting you today.
You: Hey Jenny
Jenny Phillips: Hello Chris!
Jenny Phillips: Please hold for a moment while I look up your account...
You: ok
Jenny Phillips: I can see this check was delivered in March 18, 2013, when did you try to deposit the check?
You: I have tried to deposit twice. But let us just discuss the last time. My bank ran it around 03/27/2013 and it was returned on 04/23/2013 as 'dishonoured'
Jenny Phillips: Please hold for a moment while I look up your account...
You: ok
Jenny Phillips: Chris please bear in mind all withdrawals must be represented within 45 days of the confirmed sent date. After this time, we cannot assume responsibility for any issue related to redeeming the funds.
You: First YOU have stonewall me on this withdrawal from the get go. Either you pay immediately or you are a scammer !
Jenny Phillips: But Chris I can see it was delivered onMarch 21 according to FEDEX. I am sorry you feel that way. This is outside the timeframe for any kind of claim
You: As I told you, I have tried to deposit twice. This is your problem that you created. Is Sportsbook honest or a scammer ?
Jenny Phillips: But you are contacting us until now Chris.
You: I just got the return check today. Are you a scammer?
Jenny Phillips: No we are not Chris, I am sorry but according to our house rules you only have 45 days for any claim.
You: Your check bounded !
You: Fraud
You: scammer
Jenny Phillips: Can you please be more specific, what do you mean by return check?
You: My bank ran your check. It was returned "check dishonoured by YOUR bank in Canada,
Jenny Phillips: But I can see you mentioned above it was dishonored on 04/23/2013 right?
You: Yes. When my bank deposited the check on 03/27/2013, they told my it would take 4 to 6 weeks for it to clear because it was a foreign check. This is your problem. I want my money now. If I don't get then i will be out the money BUT I am going to post my story on the internet so you can not ripoff more people.
You: Let me be clear, YOU are acting like a SCAMMER
Jenny Phillips: I am sorry to hear that Chris, that was your bank holding the check and you are making this claim outside the acceptable timeframe. Unfortunately, we can no longer review your claim. I am truly sorry.
You: You are a scammer.
You: I will be on the internet telling my story
Jenny Phillips: I am really sorry Chris, but we're only complying with what we state in our House Rules, to which you agreed with, when you signed up.
You: You failed to pay me . You are a scammer. Our conversation will be on the internet. Sportsbook is a scam company acting like a casino
You: Your 1-888-666-9085 number to handle check problem will not answer the phone
Jenny Phillips: You can call us at this phone number 1-800-632-6088.
You: You talk like a scammer and you act like a scammer
Jenny Phillips: Please feel free to give us a call.
You: What is there to talk about? You did not pay.
Jenny Phillips: I am really sorry as I mentioned above we are only following the procedures stated in our house rules.
You: Your procedure is a scam. I know you are following the procedure as a scam company
Jenny Phillips: I am sorry to hear that Chris, is there anything else I can help you with?
You: you are sorry that YOU are a scam?
Jenny Phillips: No Chris, I am sorry to hear you feel that, believe me.
Jenny Phillips: But at the time we can't accept any claim from your withdrawal.
You: I sorry that Sportsbook is a scam company. You win now because you stole my money. This whole post will be on the internet in 30 minutes. Maybe I can stop you from ripping off someone else.
You: Sportsbook stole 2,117.33 usd from me. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS SCAM COMPANY POSING AS A CASINO !
Jenny Phillips: I am truly sorry Chris, is there anything else?
You: WHAT are you sorry about? Stealing or being the thief?
You: Your lack of words says a lot. Your actions says you are a thief.
Jenny Phillips: Neither scenario you post. I am sorry that you are outside the timeframe we allow for claims and we can no longer review yours. If you have no other questions I wish you a good one.
You: Thief. Scammer Have your boss google my first post. Then I will have a webpage up soon too. Sportsbook is a scam !
You: Attention: SPORTSBOOK IS A SCAM !
Jenny Phillips: Sorry you feel that way and you may proceed as you deem fit. We have rules towards these kinds of claims and are hereby applying them. Good night to you.

Do not do business with sportsbook. SCAM ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flyingillini]

Kitkat, English is my 2nd language you arejust a bitter player that was taken by Betphoenix, betislands, wsex and many more. The old timers here know the game your running, we know you have been using tor and have multiple accounts, your not fooling anyone. May Jesus Christ strike down on you for ripping heritage.

[kitkat]

what do you mean ive been using tor, whats tor?

[BrianLaverty]

Wow....You are a clueless wonder

He really is.

[Spanks]

kick his azz!!!

[flyingillini]

what do you mean ive been using tor, whats tor?

You have been using the Tor browser, we have been tracking you and the false claims the past 6 months with your 5 handles.

[kitkat]

i dont know what youre talking about or know what that is, use proper english sir i started here on sbr in february that would be 3 months is simple mathematics 2nd nature to you like youre english sir

[flyingillini]

i dont know what youre talking about or know what that is, use proper english sir i started here on sbr in february that would be 3 months is simple mathematics 2nd nature to you like youre english sir

Look here, only one poster gets to say "Sir" on the forums and that is BBD aka the Megan's Law Poster Boy. You are insulting everyone on the forum when you use "Sir". You are digging yourself in deeper than you could ever imagine at the moment. Please use a regular browser and stop using Tor.

[kitkat]

listen, im done talking to you , i dont know what tor is and what youre talking about , please stop talking to me or i am going to have you blocked thats it i no longer want to see youre posts on my threads thank you

[kitkat]

from now on, if i see youre post responding to me i will just be ignoring you as if you dont exist so please leave me alone

[touchback]

KitKat a good laugh, this thread priceless.

[touchback]

PS.... for a new guy to come on this forum and start asking about ownership of huge North facing offshore sportsbooks is an unwise move... now you know.

[kitkat]

touchback i already have the info i needed, the thread is old, now i have to put up with you to. this is not an unwise move on my part , because the information is not confidential.

[touchback]

Well.... your entitled to your opinion. I will say this, that in all my time trolling and posting on this forum not a single post has accurately described the exact or true dynamics of that operation. So, good luck with what you think you know...

[kitkat]

where do you play at touch? if you dont mind me asking

[touchback]

KitKat, no worries and nothing personal. You did what I consider a minor fopa.... Heritage is as safe as it gets for a US player and so is 5Dimes for A rated outs as well as any of the Chris services. Speaking with a principle other than Mike is probably out of the question and is not going to happen. If you are looking for a reasonably safe place to play I will be more than happy to give you my opinions sitting from this side of the counter. I will not though go into ownership or processing questions, no offense. PS... were do I play, no one will take my action so that answers that.

[touchback]

Sportsbook is a scam ! They ripped me off for 2,122 usd. I requested a withdrawal. After weeks , I got a Canadian check. My bank would not take it because it was a foreign check. My credit union took it but said it would take 6 weeks to clear. The check was returned, 'CHECK DISONOURED'. I called Sportsbook's 1-888-666-9085, I was put on automatic hold and eventually hung up on. I went to their live chat. Here is there response.
You are currently customer 1 in queue. An agent should be available in 0 minutes.


Hello, my name is Jenny Phillips. I'll be assisting you today.
You: Hey Jenny
Jenny Phillips: Hello Chris!
Jenny Phillips: Please hold for a moment while I look up your account...
You: ok
Jenny Phillips: I can see this check was delivered in March 18, 2013, when did you try to deposit the check?
You: I have tried to deposit twice. But let us just discuss the last time. My bank ran it around 03/27/2013 and it was returned on 04/23/2013 as 'dishonoured'
Jenny Phillips: Please hold for a moment while I look up your account...
You: ok
Jenny Phillips: Chris please bear in mind all withdrawals must be represented within 45 days of the confirmed sent date. After this time, we cannot assume responsibility for any issue related to redeeming the funds.
You: First YOU have stonewall me on this withdrawal from the get go. Either you pay immediately or you are a scammer !
Jenny Phillips: But Chris I can see it was delivered onMarch 21 according to FEDEX. I am sorry you feel that way. This is outside the timeframe for any kind of claim
You: As I told you, I have tried to deposit twice. This is your problem that you created. Is Sportsbook honest or a scammer ?
Jenny Phillips: But you are contacting us until now Chris.
You: I just got the return check today. Are you a scammer?
Jenny Phillips: No we are not Chris, I am sorry but according to our house rules you only have 45 days for any claim.
You: Your check bounded !
You: Fraud
You: scammer
Jenny Phillips: Can you please be more specific, what do you mean by return check?
You: My bank ran your check. It was returned "check dishonoured by YOUR bank in Canada,
Jenny Phillips: But I can see you mentioned above it was dishonored on 04/23/2013 right?
You: Yes. When my bank deposited the check on 03/27/2013, they told my it would take 4 to 6 weeks for it to clear because it was a foreign check. This is your problem. I want my money now. If I don't get then i will be out the money BUT I am going to post my story on the internet so you can not ripoff more people.
You: Let me be clear, YOU are acting like a SCAMMER
Jenny Phillips: I am sorry to hear that Chris, that was your bank holding the check and you are making this claim outside the acceptable timeframe. Unfortunately, we can no longer review your claim. I am truly sorry.
You: You are a scammer.
You: I will be on the internet telling my story
Jenny Phillips: I am really sorry Chris, but we're only complying with what we state in our House Rules, to which you agreed with, when you signed up.
You: You failed to pay me . You are a scammer. Our conversation will be on the internet. Sportsbook is a scam company acting like a casino
You: Your 1-888-666-9085 number to handle check problem will not answer the phone
Jenny Phillips: You can call us at this phone number 1-800-632-6088.
You: You talk like a scammer and you act like a scammer
Jenny Phillips: Please feel free to give us a call.
You: What is there to talk about? You did not pay.
Jenny Phillips: I am really sorry as I mentioned above we are only following the procedures stated in our house rules.
You: Your procedure is a scam. I know you are following the procedure as a scam company
Jenny Phillips: I am sorry to hear that Chris, is there anything else I can help you with?
You: you are sorry that YOU are a scam?
Jenny Phillips: No Chris, I am sorry to hear you feel that, believe me.
Jenny Phillips: But at the time we can't accept any claim from your withdrawal.
You: I sorry that Sportsbook is a scam company. You win now because you stole my money. This whole post will be on the internet in 30 minutes. Maybe I can stop you from ripping off someone else.
You: Sportsbook stole 2,117.33 usd from me. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS SCAM COMPANY POSING AS A CASINO !
Jenny Phillips: I am truly sorry Chris, is there anything else?
You: WHAT are you sorry about? Stealing or being the thief?
You: Your lack of words says a lot. Your actions says you are a thief.
Jenny Phillips: Neither scenario you post. I am sorry that you are outside the timeframe we allow for claims and we can no longer review yours. If you have no other questions I wish you a good one.
You: Thief. Scammer Have your boss google my first post. Then I will have a webpage up soon too. Sportsbook is a scam !
You: Attention: SPORTSBOOK IS A SCAM !
Jenny Phillips: Sorry you feel that way and you may proceed as you deem fit. We have rules towards these kinds of claims and are hereby applying them. Good night to you.

Do not do business with sportsbook. SCAM ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buddy.... what, are you frickn lost PAL. There are lots of Sportsbook.ag threads and a ton of posts, why come into this thread....

[Microphone]

Buddy.... what, are you frickn lost PAL. There are lots of Sportsbook.ag threads and a ton of posts, why come into this thread....

I couldn't agree more. This is not an overnight occurrence. Anyone who isn't onto them and plays there (Sportsbook.ag) and even looks here at SBR once a week has no excuse.

[flyingillini]

listen, im done talking to you , i dont know what tor is and what youre talking about , please stop talking to me or i am going to have you blocked thats it i no longer want to see youre posts on my threads thank you

Well, I am not done talking to you. Just because Daddy used to sneak in your room every night when you were growing up , it doesn't mean you get to bash books and "think" you know. I know you and Daddy played the game "it's ok, touch me here, but don't tell Mommy" trust me kitter, you will do ok on the forums, you are already a hated man around here. Go play spike the shaft in the sauna at your local YMCA.

[kitkat]

why wouldnt a book want to take youre action touch

[touchback]

I would just be laying off sharp action which no one wants.... status non gratis if you know what I am saying.