Betphoenix...... same old crap

**touchback** · 05-11-13, 12:24 PM

Tell us more about what goes on behind the doors... if your going to bring it up you might as well disgruntled.

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 12:31 PM

i dont wanna let the cat out of the bag just yet.....

i will say the new sales manager and sales supervisor dont know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.... they are taking away bonuses any time you start wining and having your limits changed. if you take a payout they call you to try and keep you from taking the payout.

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 03:48 PM

alot of you that play or played with phoenix know Kathy..... when she quit it took her 3 months to get paid what she was owed and i dont think she got everything.

**looneytunes** · 05-11-13, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by lionheart

i dont wanna let the cat out of the bag just yet.....

i will say the new sales manager and sales supervisor dont know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.... they are taking away bonuses any time you start wining and having your limits changed. if you take a payout they call you to try and keep you from taking the payout.

alot of books withhold bonuses and adjust limits for winning player? Come on let that cat out, or is this is all about being fired?

**midnight7812** · 05-11-13, 04:06 PM

What about BetMania ?

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 04:06 PM

most guys there dont get fired..... they quit..... its about getting paid. I didnt get fired, i gave a notice and left. that place is not the same as it used to be. i had good loyal players that i took care of, or tried to take care of till we got new management.

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 04:07 PM

they are under the same umbrell as betphoenix and skybook

**midnight7812** · 05-11-13, 04:08 PM

Do you know what happened to the sales rep @ betphoenix guy named Larry he assisted me a fee years ago. Cool guy

**touchback** · 05-11-13, 04:12 PM

New management, how new. Or is it more like repeated management turnover... kind of like new manager of the month... So basically you are saying no one gets paid, customer or employee when it comes to this book. Also, if you win a nickel be prepared to get dinged quickly... or is it more like winning a dime and get dinged.

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 04:12 PM

like i said....everyone quits..... the oldest person on the sales team has been there 5 months now... new sales management has been there maybe 3

**RickySteve** · 05-11-13, 06:21 PM

Kathy, the live dealer???

**lionheart** · 05-11-13, 06:37 PM

kathy the sales supervisor...... the new sales manager ran her off and hired his best friend " who has no management experience and couldnt sale water in the desert" to take her place. The sale manager "who also has no experience" was hired by his friend the CEO of the company. They keep running off people and dont take care of the players. the company keeps hiring management with ideas and no experience..... not good for the players.

**hallandale** · 05-11-13, 09:19 PM

Yeah what about bet mania it's the same outfit rite????

**ADR51** · 05-11-13, 09:20 PM

Let it all out buddy..it's ok! I know what you are saying!!!!

**lionheart** · 05-12-13, 07:31 AM

Ok just ask what you want to know!!!!

Yes mania is under the same umbrella as phoenix and skybook. But they are all about to split up not sure why exactly. I think bad decisions from management and upper management.

**ADR51** · 05-12-13, 02:02 PM

Lionheart, if you are looking for a job i might be able to hook you up, just hit me with a PM...cheers!!!

**lionheart** · 05-12-13, 02:14 PM

I have one, but thanks

**ADR51** · 05-12-13, 02:25 PM

en todas! Viva la liga manillo!!

**RickySteve** · 05-12-13, 04:17 PM

I'm sorry you were unhappy over there. Hopefully your next position will be more successful.

**lionheart** · 05-12-13, 04:30 PM

I liked my co workers, we had a good time... The sales agents, CS agents and line guys are all great people.... I dont want to throw everyone under the bus. Its upper management and sales management thats messed up what could be a great book

**RickySteve** · 05-12-13, 04:42 PM

If there's one thing that's important to running a strong business, it's the employees having fun at work.

**touchback** · 05-12-13, 04:46 PM

Well... If they are going to break up I wonder how that is going to be handled. It is surely already a bit of a mess if we are talking possible break up. Glad I do not have any money with any of them...

**RickySteve** · 05-12-13, 04:49 PM

I'd probably try to find out which brand has the most employees having the most fun and stick with that one.

**lionheart** · 05-12-13, 05:04 PM

All three brands have the same employees. All are under one roof.... For now.

**bearjew** · 05-13-13, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by midnight7812

Do you know what happened to the sales rep @ betphoenix guy named Larry he assisted me a fee years ago. Cool guy

Hey Larry is now working @ WagerWeb for the past couple of years now, he's the sales manager. Yea cool guy, he'll hook you up if you need anything!

**lecubs28** · 05-13-13, 12:14 PM

no surprise that betmania and betphoenix are having problems. two of the biggest shit books still in business.

happy to say i don't have one cent tied up with these scumbags

**ADR51** · 05-13-13, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by RickySteve

I'd probably try to find out which brand has the most employees having the most fun and stick with that one.

is that sarcasm?

**RickySteve** · 05-14-13, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by lecubs28

no surprise that betmania and betphoenix are having problems. two of the biggest shit books still in business.

happy to say i don't have one cent tied up with these scumbags

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Would you care to be more specific?

**stevex** · 05-14-13, 08:28 PM

I have received 4 seperate payouts from this family of books all within 3 business days. Boom.

**raydog** · 05-15-13, 01:04 AM

rickysteve, have you been paid in full yet?

**gamblingshark1** · 05-15-13, 01:49 AM

who else is under the betmania,skybook,phoenix umbrella? I just found out recently betowi is one.

**gamblingshark1** · 05-15-13, 01:53 AM

Betmania has never come across as a shit book to me. Reduced juice, half point off nba sides and totals for one hour during the week. always quick payouts. Who can beat that?

**BranchDavidian** · 05-15-13, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by gamblingshark1

who else is under the betmania,skybook,phoenix umbrella? I just found out recently betowi is one.

According to SBR's rating guide, Betowi is a sister book to Sportsbettingonline.

**RickySteve** · 05-15-13, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by raydog

rickysteve, have you been paid in full yet?

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