Betrevolution rollover

**tz0** · 02-27-13, 07:03 PM

http://betrevolution.eu/rules/sportsbook-roll-over.aspx

Only straight wagers and parlays on the entire game outcome will qualify. Sorry, no periods, halves, quarters, props (propositions), futures or double-dares.

**robmpink** · 02-27-13, 07:36 PM

Also only certain ml's count as well. If you bet a nhl team that is +205, it won't count.

Eligible Leagues and Lines for Rollover Bets

Sport Bet Type League Spread Money Line Total Team Total
Football Game
1st Half NFL -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Football Game
1st Half NCAA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Football Game
1st Half CFL -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half NBA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half NCAA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half WNBA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Baseball Game
1st Five Innings MLB Runline: -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Hockey Game NHL Puckline: -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Boxing Fight Boxing N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Combat Fight UFC N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Combat Fight MMA N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Soccer Game * Major Leagues -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140

**erickvivar** · 02-27-13, 08:01 PM

It is not on their page, but teasers also count towards RO following Robs odds.

**Keith Richard** · 02-27-13, 08:39 PM

2nd halves do not count but I have been credited for rollovers on 1st halves I've noticed.

**Kaabee** · 02-27-13, 10:03 PM

it says no halves but they must mean no 2nd halves.

**touchback** · 02-28-13, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by robmpink

Also only certain ml's count as well. If you bet a nhl team that is +205, it won't count.

Eligible Leagues and Lines for Rollover Bets

Sport Bet Type League Spread Money Line Total Team Total
Football Game
1st Half NFL -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Football Game
1st Half NCAA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Football Game
1st Half CFL -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half NBA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half NCAA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Basketball Game
1st Half WNBA -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Baseball Game
1st Five Innings MLB Runline: -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Hockey Game NHL Puckline: -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140
Boxing Fight Boxing N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Combat Fight UFC N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Combat Fight MMA N/A -200 to +140 N/A N/A
Soccer Game * Major Leagues -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140 -200 to +140

Man... CSD around these parts has a hard enough time doing simple rollovers right let alone adhering to these requirements. Forget the book, if they got employees doing this right I want to hire some of them because this looks like an operations pain in the a55 and easy to mess up on a regular basis based on the talent I have had to deal with.

**teaz2win** · 02-28-13, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by touchback

Man... CSD around these parts has a hard enough time doing simple rollovers right let alone adhering to these requirements. Forget the book, if they got employees doing this right I want to hire some of them because this looks like an operations pain in the a55 and easy to mess up on a regular basis based on the talent I have had to deal with.

Agreed!! I cant believe i used to grip about only getting the lower amount of the risk vs the win. Hell at least i am getting it on all my action. Moneylines, halves, dogs, favorites, casino.. doesnt matter.

**erickvivar** · 02-28-13, 01:00 PM

Actually these guys are the most transparent I've seen on Rollover stuff. Their website calculates everything on the fly for you, you can see where you stand at all times on your RO without having to ask anyone. No humans involved on the process. They use some sweet software, not a rented one for sure.

**Keith Richard** · 02-28-13, 04:37 PM

Yup...I love their layout. Nice to see what you need for a rollover right at your fingertips.My verification info is right there too.If they had reduced juice this could become my favorite book.

**touchback** · 02-28-13, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by erickvivar

Actually these guys are the most transparent I've seen on Rollover stuff. Their website calculates everything on the fly for you, you can see where you stand at all times on your RO without having to ask anyone. No humans involved on the process. They use some sweet software, not a rented one for sure.

Well... that clarifies things... no CSD clerk in CR is gonna be dealing with those rollover requirements and manually calculating it correctly, it is definitely a bit of code. I would like to get my hands on it... I know a few places that I could sell it too and make a few bucks...
Comment 2... really though, they are basically saying that all your dogs or favorites do not count towards rollover and we are already talking pretty decent size rollovers so why would a bonus with these restrictions be that tempting compared to a more transparent 100% basic 10 or 12 x rollover that counts almost everything... am I missing something because crunching the math... this is a hard one to beat would you not agree...

**erickvivar** · 02-28-13, 10:27 PM

I think the formula is simple. ALL bonuses with them are cash bonuses, they do not give any free play and among the places who offer cash bonuses they do it with very low percentages, higher ROs and lower amounts of money than with BREV.

Summarizing what Pink put in there, the RO rules are simple, they take everything except 2nd halves and props (that will include tennis). The odds range is to avoid the guy who bets only on heavy favs and the one hit wonder with a dog, which will not happen if they were free plays. If you think the RO is too big, they offer 6 different promos every couple of days with different roll over requirements and percentages, im telling you, just by looking at it and reading comments from UBPharaon you can tell they spent some cash on their software.

**touchback** · 03-01-13, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by erickvivar

I think the formula is simple. ALL bonuses with them are cash bonuses, they do not give any free play and among the places who offer cash bonuses they do it with very low percentages, higher ROs and lower amounts of money than with BREV.

Summarizing what Pink put in there, the RO rules are simple, they take everything except 2nd halves and props (that will include tennis). The odds range is to avoid the guy who bets only on heavy favs and the one hit wonder with a dog, which will not happen if they were free plays. If you think the RO is too big, they offer 6 different promos every couple of days with different roll over requirements and percentages, im telling you, just by looking at it and reading comments from UBPharaon you can tell they spent some cash on their software.

Right... nice posts Erick. The investment alone in this type of software makes me think well of this operation. It is a pro long vision move with sound math behind it. I still want a copy... can anyone get me one...

**robmpink** · 03-01-13, 06:18 PM

I funded there once last year and had a good experience. I must say I was rather surprised with what counts and doesn't count for the rollover, but it wasn't hidden stuff. I never bothered to read before hand.

I'd probably still be playing there if I bet straight games, but I usually do halves.

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 06:21 PM

I just deposited there, I like the interface so far, quick question, how do you bet your bonus, if I make a play it just uses my cash, and I can't find a way to switch it? Thanks.

**Keith Richard** · 03-01-13, 06:43 PM

tto...When you place your bet there is a drop down box to the right that says cash. Click on it and you can designate bonus below that if you wish to use that instead.

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 06:46 PM

Thanks^^^^^

**Kaabee** · 03-01-13, 07:08 PM

why is bonus separate if it's a cash bonus?

**erickvivar** · 03-01-13, 07:22 PM

Just for you to see that the bonus funds were added or as they told me, to provide the visual separation. You can start using it right away, you dont have to risk it first. Anything you bet with any of them will count towards the roll over (as long as it qualifies). Once it is done, all your bonus balance will be transfered automatically to your USD balance and you are good to continue or get a payout.

**Kaabee** · 03-01-13, 08:18 PM

i see. is the bonus balance usable in the casino?

**touchback** · 03-01-13, 08:37 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but there are references to the rollover being on the bonus but all rollovers are generally applied to the bonus and the principle deposit so in this case you are basically saying that favorites and dogs do not qualify for rollover... well for alot of guys that might as well make the rollover like 40 or 50 x times... come on. It is all relative and you got to look at the whole picture. If you do not play favs or dogs then great for you but that is the exception and this setup is gonna make it hard for the average square to clear and cash... right. Just saying... that is how I am interpreting this. Correct me if I am wrong. I think they look like a solid out but this is a twist that is significant when looked at closely...

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 08:47 PM

It's a recreational book, they say so on the website. When you have this listed in your FAQ, you know you are not catering to the smart guys.
What is the minimum and maximum wager allowed?
Betrevolution.com caters predominantly to recreational players so our minimum wager is $5 and our maximum wager is $1,000. Please see our full list of Limits. However, higher limits can be offered but are subject to Management approval. If you wish to make a bet greater than the stated limit please contact us Member Services.

Can I change or cancel wagers on the internet?
You are not allowed to cancel or change any wager once it has been entered online.

What bonuses or incentives do you offer?
For a latest bonuses and offers, please see our Promo section or Contact Us.

What is “juice”?
Juice is term used by a bookmaker’s to explain commission. Most of the time, this refers to the 11 to 10 football bettors lay on straight wagers.

What is a Teaser?
A Teaser allows you to move the line a set, only Football and Basketball, in your favor. This is called ‘teasing’ and is only allowed in a point-spread bet.

What is a Parlay?
A Parlay consists of picking teams or totals and combining them together into a single play. Parlays then, are basically a collection of straight bets. If all the Parlay picks win, the payout is much higher than the sum of the individual straight wagers.

What is a Money Line?
Money Lines are the simplest form of sports bets. The team you bet on just has to win the game. Your bet is not subject to a point spread. The amount you may win is determined by the money line.

What is a Side?
Sides are when you bet on one team to beat another. The winning team can either be determined by the spread or simply the final score (Money Line).

What is a Total?
Totals are also known as over / under bets. You bet that the actual combined total score of both teams will be over or under the number displayed in your bet. The winning team is irrelevant to this bet.

What is Buy Points?
Buy Points allows you to move the point spread in your favor by paying a surcharge. You can only buy points on football and basketball point spreads and totals.

What is a Quarter wager?
Quarter lines allow you to bet on the first, second, third and fourth quarter of basketball and football games.

What is a Half-Time wager?
Half-time lines allow you to bet on the first or second half of basketball and football games.

If Bets - If Win and If Action?
An If Bet allows you to increase your betting power and limit your risk by placing multiple bets on one betting ticket; each individual bet after the first bet will only have action if the previous bet in the sequence is successful. This limits your risk to the dollar amount of the first bet on your betting ticket.

An If Bet is also useful if you want to make more than one bet, but do not have adequate funds in your account to cover the second bet unless the first bet wins. An If Bet will place the second bet immediately upon success of the first bet.

What are Futures and Propositions?
Future bets are based on the outcome of events that happen each year. Propositions are bets based on the outcome of special events. All bets are final.

What Are Action Reverses?
An action-reverse wager consists of a pair of Action-To wagers in reverse order. Action-reverse wagers are accepted for 2 or 3 plays, on football sides and totals only.

What happens if I bet a line that’s obviously incorrectly posted?
The wager will be canceled and the money refunded. No exceptions.

**erickvivar** · 03-01-13, 09:09 PM

Touch, did not understood a word of what you said. But I agree with tt0827, they say it and you can see it they are not interested on the sharp bettor. BookMaker, 5Dimes will be the place if you are one of those.

**tto827** · 03-01-13, 09:48 PM

I took the 80% bonus, figure I'll play ATS there, and worry about ML and the such at other outs, its not like they are going to beat prices at many places.