Any good exchanges for US players?

[Cheme82]

Trying to mix in some straight or totals, even ML's, for camouflaging purposes but I don't want to lose full juice every time I do this. Anybody has suggestions on a good exchange for a US player to have funded for this purpose only.

Thank you.

[Duff85]

I don't even know of an exchange that allows US players at the moment.

[LordVodka]

Betmaker.ag but it's very limited.

[Cheme82]

Wished I would have kept talking to that girl from Montreal.

[waldroprob]

btcsportsmatch.com is the closest thing americans get. Vig-free bet matching with only 1% fee on won amounts. But of course it's bitcoin only, and it's not easy to get bitcoins.

[wrongturn]

btcsportsmatch.com is the closest thing americans get. Vig-free bet matching with only 1% fee on won amounts. But of course it's bitcoin only, and it's not easy to get bitcoins.

It is actually not that difficult to buy. Check out BitInstant. The big hurdles are exchange rate, price fluctuation, and understanding how it works.

[gregm]

btcsportsmatch.com is the closest thing americans get. Vig-free bet matching with only 1% fee on won amounts. But of course it's bitcoin only, and it's not easy to get bitcoins.

Interesting. Have you used it yet and noticed the volume the site gets, what can you get down on a wager.

[waldroprob]

i use it all the time. No problem getting down $200-300 a game, a lot more NFL.

Right now there is around $400 worth of bitcoin looking for action on the Heat game and $500 worth on the Nets game. That doesn't include the amounts already matched, so liquidity is pretty good. Definitely try it out, you will get some action.

[gregm]

Thanks waldoprob, been interested in bitcoin for a while. saw this from a thread on here back in april of 2010



"BTCSportsMatch.com is a BitCoin sports exchange similar to matchbook or betfair created by guys from 2+2 who also own BTCSportsBet.com. Withdrawals/Deposits are nearly instant (10-30 minutes). They use no-vig pinnacle lines and you only pay 1% commission on net winnings. Liquidity is decent near game time, all but one of my MLB offers have been matched so far. I use it everyday and really like it so far. They also have a chat feature so players can talk to each other.

Getting coins is pretty easy as others have mentioned once you get everything set up. Bank Account--->Dwolla--->Mt.Gox--->Sportsbook, then the reverse to cash them into dollars. BTC has been pretty steady at $4.50 to $5 lately not nearly as volatile as they were around 6 months ago.

Give either site a try with a little support this could be the answer for US players"


"I recently posted with Anonibet and BTCSportsMatch and I must say, I love having both of them available. You guys that are sitting on the fence should really do some homework on these guys. I funded with MtGox with their Cash Deposit via BitInstant option. Super super easy, basically go to Wells Fargo (or another bank, they have a list) and give them this invoice thing that you print off with your money. Money was in MtGox by the time I got back to the office. Then I just sent coins to both Anonibet and BTCSportsMatch - money showed up instantly in Anonibet, took about 15 min with BTCSportsMatch. All there was too it, very easy. Best thing is, you don't have to give personal details at all when signing up for books - pretty much anonymous.

As far as the books themselves go, Anonibet has a ton more betting options than BTCSportsMatch but their lines aren't really great, more like full juice. BTCSportsMatch uses no vig Pinnacle lines in an exchange format. I like having both - I have moved money from MtGox to both books and back, no issues whatsoever and it is lightning fast. My eyes have been opened - this is the future for sure. If you don't like being pegged against the BTC fluctuating prices, covert your bitcoins to something like *************** when not in use and you'll have your balance in USD. Honestly I am very pleasantly surprised how easy it's been. I also am playing some poker at SealsWithClubs.eu ... not a ton of traffic, but it's growing...software is kludgely, a real pro won't like it - but a fish like me can easily tolerate it"

[YouMama]

intresting... seems like alot of work to convert the cash to the bitcoins though... plus the fees involved to do so... then the hassel of having to find a way to sell them (for around the same rate u bought them for)

[boondoggle]

intresting... seems like alot of work to convert the cash to the bitcoins though... plus the fees involved to do so... then the hassel of having to find a way to sell them (for around the same rate u bought them for)

What shill or ghost are you?

selling bitcoins at any of the multiple exchanges is quite easy and VERY low fees. Mtgox charges $6 per $1000 and then drops down to $5.5 per $1000.

Please quit spreading fud.

[YouMama]

how do u beat the fees?

mtgox charges a fee, the middle man sites (dwolla) charges a fee, all ontop of the rake form the sites (sealswclubs)(btcsportsmatch) ... doesnt seem worth it

+ the fact about having money in bitcoins, doesnt seem to be any safer than having them on some offshore gaming account

[sideloaded]

how do u beat the fees?

mtgox charges a fee, the middle man sites (dwolla) charges a fee, all ontop of the rake form the sites (sealswclubs)(btcsportsmatch) ... doesnt seem worth it

+ the fact about having money in bitcoins, doesnt seem to be any safer than having them on some offshore gaming account

you're right. It just keeps adding juice to your bet.

[tarheelfan72]

If you are only paying 1% on wins and nothing on losses do you not at least break even on the bitcoin fees?

Just asking - I never used them before.

[sideloaded]

If you are only paying 1% on wins and nothing on losses do you not at least break even on the bitcoin fees?

Just asking - I never used them before.

I think if you have a lot of bitcoins and use them for other things, It's not a big deal. But if you are just betting in small amounts the fees get high.

[boondoggle]

how do u beat the fees?

mtgox charges a fee, the middle man sites (dwolla) charges a fee, all ontop of the rake form the sites (sealswclubs)(btcsportsmatch) ... doesnt seem worth it

+ the fact about having money in bitcoins, doesnt seem to be any safer than having them on some offshore gaming account

Name a site that charges less than $6 per $1000 deposited? Mtgox's fees are super cheap and the more you do the cheaper they get. Dwolla charges 0.25 (thats right 25 cents per transaction).

I do not know why you mentioned rake from sealswithclubs or the fee from btcsportsmatch because ALL POKER SITES CHARGE RAKE AND ALL EXCHANGES CHARGE FEES.

Here is the cool thing about bitcoin which seems to have escaped your genius mentality. I can move $10k a night between any bitcoin book or bitcoin poker site without any fees or hassle. Try that with 5dimes or bookmaker and do it every night. Try withdrawing and redpositing every night with 5dimes or bookmaker--you cannot.

Bitcoin gives you total freedom to control your money that is unparalleled.

Reading comprehension is really terrible on this forum.

[sideloaded]

Name a site that charges less than $6 per $1000 deposited? Mtgox's fees are super cheap and the more you do the cheaper they get. Dwolla charges 0.25 (thats right 25 cents per transaction).

I do not know why you mentioned rake from sealswithclubs or the fee from btcsportsmatch because ALL POKER SITES CHARGE RAKE AND ALL EXCHANGES CHARGE FEES.

Here is the cool thing about bitcoin which seems to have escaped your genius mentality. I can move $10k a night between any bitcoin book or bitcoin poker site without any fees or hassle. Try that with 5dimes or bookmaker and do it every night. Try withdrawing and redpositing every night with 5dimes or bookmaker--you cannot.

Bitcoin gives you total freedom to control your money that is unparalleled.

Reading comprehension is really terrible on this forum.

we get it, you can move bitcoins to Timbuktu, but it's not that easy or quick to go USD. Mt. Go f-cking sucks. Takes over week sometimes more to get money in or out. It's the weak link. You bitcoin shills need to chill out realize the system has a lot of flaws.

[Darkside Magick]

we get it, you can move bitcoins to Timbuktu, but it's not that easy or quick to go USD. Mt. Go f-cking sucks. Takes over week sometimes more to get money in or out. It's the weak link. You bitcoin shills need to chill out realize the system has a lot of flaws.

Not true at all...I can move money to btc and btc to cash in less in 30 minutes

[robmpink]

Name a site that charges less than $6 per $1000 deposited? Mtgox's fees are super cheap and the more you do the cheaper they get. Dwolla charges 0.25 (thats right 25 cents per transaction).

I do not know why you mentioned rake from sealswithclubs or the fee from btcsportsmatch because ALL POKER SITES CHARGE RAKE AND ALL EXCHANGES CHARGE FEES.

Here is the cool thing about bitcoin which seems to have escaped your genius mentality. I can move $10k a night between any bitcoin book or bitcoin poker site without any fees or hassle. Try that with 5dimes or bookmaker and do it every night. Try withdrawing and redpositing every night with 5dimes or bookmaker--you cannot.

Bitcoin gives you total freedom to control your money that is unparalleled.

Reading comprehension is really terrible on this forum.

Can I mine bit coins in your a@@? What is the transfer fee if I find some in there? It has to be very cavernous.

[sideloaded]

Not true at all...I can move money to btc and btc to cash in less in 30 minutes

Are you in the US? I dont think so. Or you got anally probed by dwolla and verified blah blah. Some of us dont hand over all are banking information to a third party shit site.

[Darkside Magick]

Are you in the US? I dont think so. Or you got anally probed by dwolla and verified blah blah. Some of us dont hand over all are banking information to a third party shit site.

Don't use dwolla ..other ways to do things..like I said can move money in 30 minutes...just easy

[boondoggle]

Can I mine bit coins in your a@@? What is the transfer fee if I find some in there? It has to be very cavernous.

Now be careful, you will join sideloaded on my ignore list and I would miss those lovely quips that you spent so much time working on.

[uncynd]

Compared to some deposit and more importantly withdrawal fees observed at almost all costa rican sports books; I'd say any "fee" you are at odds with @bitcoin is much much lower then you are currently subject to as an american.

[sideloaded]

Now be careful, you will join sideloaded on my ignore list and I would miss those lovely quips that you spent so much time working on.

lol I dont even know you. But thanks. Keep shilling bitcoin.

[sideloaded]

Don't use dwolla ..other ways to do things..like I said can move money in 30 minutes...just easy

Wow! that is so helpful!

[sideloaded]

Compared to some deposit and more importantly withdrawal fees observed at almost all costa rican sports books; I'd say any "fee" you are at odds with @bitcoin is much much lower then you are currently subject to as an american.

It's not the fees. It's all the other BS. 30 day waiting period AFTER being verified before you can even transfer funds to mt gox. Bitcoins has flaws and bottle necks that the shills will never tell you about.

[Darkside Magick]

Wow! that is so helpful!

Okay..use "instant" to deposit...take 30 minutes and for withdrawals use btcpak to DC...take 30 minutes also

[sideloaded]

Okay..use "instant" to deposit...take 30 minutes and for withdrawals use btcpak to DC...take 30 minutes also

Uh yeah, it's still 10 times easier to send a wire or p2p then to run through 3 or 4 different third parties. Bitcoins are not ready for prime time.


Why do you people think it's some kind of second coming? You're still bottle necked by the banks and payment processors like anything else. Unless you're laundering money or buying drugs with your bitcoins.

[uncynd]

It's not the fees. It's all the other BS. 30 day waiting period AFTER being verified before you can even transfer funds to mt gox. Bitcoins has flaws and bottle necks that the shills will never tell you about.

It took me about 15 minutes to find a place to buy bitcoin with paypal; one day later I had my bank account linked to a processor in Canada. There are plenty of options for people that do not wish to be so closed minded as yourself. I agree Mt. gox is terrible but honestly if you don't invest the time to find a different processor yourself; honestly you don't deserve to use this site.

Fact is this; all the bullshit you posted above is simply not true, at least for me it has been a really eye opening experience and shit.....1% VIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For anybody curious I urge you to not be discouraged by the hater in the room.

[sideloaded]

It took me about 15 minutes to find a place to buy bitcoin with paypal; one day later I had my bank account linked to a processor in Canada. There are plenty of options for people that do not wish to be so closed minded as yourself. I agree Mt. gox is terrible but honestly if you don't invest the time to find a different processor yourself; honestly you don't deserve to use this site.

Fact is this; all the bullshit you posted above is simply not true, at least for me it has been a really eye opening experience and shit.....1% VIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For anybody curious I urge you to not be discouraged by the hater in the room.

Man I like you guys. Please post what isnt true. Things changed late in 2012 buddy. I dont know what mystery processor you're talking about but it's all the same with you bitcoin guys. "It's so easy, I did this and that blah, blah." Yet no legit processor is moving shit for 30 days and a extreme background check.

Wake up you dopes.

Listen I'm trying to use bitcoin. I'm not the government shutting things down on dwolla and other processors. Only on the internet will f-cking retards call you a hater for living in the real world.