Posters should quit posting that this is the end of SBR etc. BI fiasco means nothing.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 04:32 PM

My point of the thread was not the frustration that people are having and should have, but that this isn't the end of SBR and you aren't going to hurt them with lawsuits etc.

**tm321** · 12-20-12, 05:46 PM

I think SBR is worthwhile but you need to be skeptical of the ratings. Betonline is a B+ and Intertops is a B+. No reasonable person thinks their money is equally safe at those two books. Not surprisingly one advertises on this site and one doesn't. Wonder which is which?

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by tto827

any link to this? And people call that books are going down all the time, a darts going to land sometime. Not doubting any of it, just really would like to know how sbr is tied into all of this.

ak 10/27/12: Avoid BetIslands Sportsbook

so you here of all the praise from the "players" getting paid? I have got reports this week on over 10 affiliates who have not been paid a cent in over a year. Appears they are pulling a "betus" where they will receive free marketing and not expect to pay for it.

how are they paying so fast? Well it's obvious they not paying the other bills.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 06:09 PM

This is how Jon worked it. He told affiliates that he no longer wanted to do business. Then he went out and got new affiliates.

Hello,

Betislands has decided not to do business with affiliates because honestly all we get is low conversion or close to nothing.

We are one of the best sportsbooks out there we rather deal with one or 2 sponsors and that works for us , I urge affiliates to stop promoting us any active players you have you will get credit for but we do not need or want to deal with " affiliates " anymore this is nothing personal but something that we have decided after a series of unfortunate events by some of the other " affiliates ". After we moved facilities we changed to new servers and some data could not be retrieved everyone has always gotten paid from us we are one of the fastest payout sportsbooks on the net.

My personal email is my name jon and our domain ( betislands.ag) feel free to contact me there directly.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 06:10 PM

I have emailed you several times, Jon. You still haven't paid me a single penny...EVER. Old server, new server...not a single cent.

You said you closed the affiliate program, yet the site is still active. http://affiliates.betislands.ag You want to close the program? Great, no problem but close the site too! The only reason you would have to keep it live, is to get free traffic. There is no other viable excuse. You are a smooth talker, but your actions speak louder than you posts.

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**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 06:12 PM

prop 10/27/12

I never heard of BetIslands before and then suddenly next thing I know they were the best because Jon who was this Kickass Manager from super duper A+++ WagerChief was in charge. Then I witness him write many times exactly what you quoted

Quote:

We are one of the best sportsbooks out there...

And he has an army of shills to promote him and his book. Then other idiots on SRB, SBR or whatever that scam site is called, all repeat it because forum opinions are easy to control. The other thing you'll hear about over and over again is how deep their pockets are. Like you'd think this book is so well rolled that they sit around discussing where the penetrate they can bury the cash, there is no room left.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know jack about them. but I wasn't born yesterday either.

**raiders72001** · 12-20-12, 06:15 PM

The posters have to take a lot of the blame. They regurgitated the praises of BI over and over again.

FWIW - SBR shouldn't be considered a scam site, at least not compared to the true scam sites.

**antifoil** · 12-20-12, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Microphone

That was one heavy underdog that went belly up Tuesday.

A- to A+ Elite, top 1% of all Sportsbooks, Guaranteed safety & quality.
B- to B+ Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.
C- to C+ Average to below average cust. Service with some risk to players funds.
D- to D+ Poor, some risk to players funds. Poor customer service, etc.
F Outright scam, book on brink of failure.

i wonder if there is actually only 10 percent of the books rated B or better.

**rm18** · 12-20-12, 06:48 PM

HollywoodCompare

D+

www.hollywoodsportsbook.eu

That doesn't even count Hollywood would not trust them with a D+ rating today