Justin, how do you stay with SBR?

[Miz]

If I am Jon or anyone else associated with that place I am looking over my shoulder for Brian and Luke.

[allin1]

Me too (if not a rumor). Thanks Justin. Enjoy the holidays. Somehow I hope you have the contacts within the industry to still pull off a miracle.

it's not a rumor. that is his nickname at another forum. they are his exact words.

[wrongturn]

If I am Jon or anyone else associated with that place I am looking over my shoulder for Brian and Luke.

Yeah. It is a double whammy for Brian, because his tax is certain to go up next year.

[harvesters]

Everything I posted about BetIslands was true to the best of my knowledge. I expect a lot more facts to come out about what happened here. Reserve judgment until the facts are established, and then be as critical as you like of me.

You clearly know more than you are saying. Why are all of you treating this like you have state secrets. It's an online sportsbook that stiffed a bunch of us. Spill it.

[allin1]

You clearly know more than you are saying. Why are all of you treating this like you have state secrets. It's an online sportsbook that stiffed a bunch of us. Spill it.

he probably has a confidentiality clause in his contract with sbr

[harvesters]

he probably has a confidentiality clause in his contract with sbr

They are the friggin' watchdog - SBR has a DUTY to tell us.

[Al Masters]

No, he's not. Justin is a good guy. Guys like SRB John and Dozer have fallen off the deep end.

A good con gets your money,a great con gets your money and your belief in him after the fact.

[Dark Horse]

Won't get us our money back, but maybe we can arrange something for some of these SBR clowns to be arrested as soon as they set foot on American soil. They're guilty as hell of consciously misleading the players here for their own benefit.

[Dark Horse]

A good con gets your money,a great con gets your money and your belief in him after the fact.

Generally true, but not here. Not even in the same ballpark. You're just guessing.

[Justin7]

You clearly know more than you are saying. Why are all of you treating this like you have state secrets. It's an online sportsbook that stiffed a bunch of us. Spill it.

I know a lot more than has come out, but 1. there are pieces of the puzzle missing; 2. some information I have is contradictory; and 3. posting something incorrect could do much harm right now.

[anthonyr9119]

I know a lot more than has come out, but 1. there are pieces of the puzzle missing; 2. some information I have is contradictory; and 3. posting something incorrect could do much harm right now.

Everyone else is crafting theories with 10 percent of the information that you have. How is bringing more information in to the fold more detrimental than everyone just posting nonsense because they are pissed?

You are allowing a misinformation campaign to continue when you could stop it. Don't you think the people who have entrusted you and this site deserve better?

[wrongturn]

Justin, you said BetIsland closed your account because of your sharp action. So how come they didn't pay you. Were you on a payment plan?

[Dark Horse]

I know a lot more than has come out, but 1. there are pieces of the puzzle missing; 2. some information I have is contradictory; and 3. posting something incorrect could do much harm right now.

You did mention that you have it from separate sources that there was no financial backer arrested.

[Justin7]

You did mention that you have it from separate sources that there was no financial backer arrested.

Here's why I hate saying things. I get misquoted.

I said the financial backer was not arrested in October. I did not say he wasn't arrested.

[anthonyr9119]

Here's why I hate saying things. I get misquoted.

I said the financial backer was not arrested in October. I did not say he wasn't arrested.

What's getting you is you are being cryptic. Either spill it or STFU

[wrongturn]

Anthony, keep your fire at the right targets please.

[harvesters]

What's getting you is you are being cryptic. Either spill it or STFU

He's absolutely right. Betislands is done. Whatever happened is in the past now and doesn`t effect whether someone will take it over. It is what it is. There is a list of players that are owed money. That`s what is left.

Your JOB is to tell us what happened and I think there are a lot of people like me raising a Spockian eyebrow at SBR looking for them to explain themselves. There is no honor or logic in not telling us the whole truth and the only reason you wouldn`t is if SBR has something to hide. This cryptic half-truth self-serving BS is just plain weak.

[Spedizzo]

I like Justin. I think every other "SBR" mod or whatever is a scam.

[Dark Horse]

Here's why I hate saying things. I get misquoted.

I said the financial backer was not arrested in October. I did not say he wasn't arrested.

I wasn't arrested in October either. It's been a while, in fact. Decades. Still, I was once arrested.

[shari91]

Generally true, but not here. Not even in the same ballpark. You're just guessing.

Apparently so were you. "but this is Jon from Wagerchief, so I raised them to B in my personal ratings. His word is good."

"My pick for sleeper book of the year."

Both quotes 4 months before BI even became an advertiser here. And I didn't bother searching after that drivel.

Don't you dare attack anyone for this mess unless you're willing to admit that mistakes happen. Even with supposed know it alls like you.

[Dark Horse]

Don't you have some dark stone to crawl back under? Go suck up some more to your corrupt employer.

You're so far off with your comment, with players being the victim of SBR's corruption, it's not even funny.

What's your next big move? Hand out an infraction?

[shari91]

Don't you have some dark stone to crawl back under? Go suck up some more to your corrupt employer.

That's your response after starting a thread like this? You were sucking their dick well before they even had a banner here.

Get fukked pal. At least most of the other guys bitching aren't blatant hypocrites.

But yeah... glad to know you're well aware of "how good Jon's word is". Such a joke you are.

[shari91]

Nice edit kiddo.

You're done.

But make sure to let us know the next time you think SBR's rating of a book is too low and who the next sleeper is. Always handy for punters I'm sure.

[Dark Horse]

I have no idea what you're even doing here. You're like a three year old trying to pick a fight with one of the many players that lost money due to your corrupt employer. lol Keep going girl. Your character, or lack thereof, shines through loud and clear. Just more added to the disgusting pile that is SBR.

[shari91]

I have no idea what you're even doing here. You're like a three year old trying to pick a fight with one of the many players that lost money due to your corrupt employer. lol Keep going girl. Your character, or lack therefor, shines through loud and clear. Think there's a surprise in your SBR X-mas stocking?

My character shines through yet you're attacking Justin7 after you were pumping this book before they even had a banner here??? So I assume you're not going to concede you made many mistakes when it came to them. Those are your words I quoted and linked. Again: Well before they even advertised here. Were you being paid in freeplays maybe?? You're trying to burn a guy on a stake when you're failing to acknowledge what you even said. Divert divert divert. But keep attacking me!!! Always works for... well no one really.

Regardless, happy holidays. A little part of me always thought you were still a bit worth paying attention to despite our obvious differences in opinion but after seeing your posts, I can only hope Santa has a softer heart than I do for your sake.

[Dark Horse]

Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie Oink Oink Oink

You're right though. This one's real hard. Did the players lose money because of the SBR corruption, or did SBR lose money because players voiced an opinion?

Thanks for the comical interlude, Shari. If you don't mind, can we get back to the business of trying to reclaim our stolen funds now?

[shari91]

Again, nice edit.

I'll help you out a bit. 1. I'm not Australian. 2. I'm pretty sure no one would call me chubby. 3. You're being a hypocrite after hyping a book and even questioning SBR's lower rating than you would give them in your "personal ratings". 4. Keep diverting instead of admitting what you said. I had bet you'd go 2 posts before cracking but you're holding strong. 5. Your cash isn't going to be recovered bitching at an SBR consultant. And no one is going to take you seriously after seeing your past posts shilling for the book and Jon himself. So maybe try another tactic.

[Dark Horse]

What exactly is your point? BI fooled plenty of people. But the victims are the players. Did Jon post on and build his book through my forum? Did I get a cut of the players losses? Did I stand to gain anything from 'shilling'? Was I in a position to judge their financial security? Do I hang out with Jon? How can you be so infinitely ignorant?

[shari91]

What exactly is your point? BI fooled plenty of people. But the victims are the players. Did Jon post on and build his book through my forum? Did I get a cut of the players losses? Did I stand to gain anything from 'shilling'? Was I in a position to judge their financial security? Do I hang out with Jon? How can you be so infinitely ignorant?

"Did Jon post on and build his book through my forum?" No. You were all over him before he became an advertiser here.

"Did I get a cut of the players losses?" There are a lot of affiliates on here. No clue of your financial affairs.

"Did I stand to gain anything from 'shilling'?" Again, no clue.

"Was I in a position to judge their financial security?" If you weren't, why did you upgrade them in your "personal rating" to B.

"Do I hang out with Jon?" Not sure. You're the one who said "his word is good". Not something I'd say for someone I just knew from the ol' Internetzzzzzz. Surely you're not that naive since you're such an industry insider?

"How can you be so infinitely ignorant?" Again you're diverting and attacking. It's not fun being called out as a hypocrite. I realise that as I make mistakes all the time. But I'm not the one being ignorant here. You want people to respect you somehow on the forum yet you're one of the few who were saying SBR's initial lower ratings of this book were incorrect. You messed up. So maybe just acknowledge that it's possible Justin7 and SBR did too. Of course you won't and it'll turn into another insult with an edit and I'll lose another $20 because you refuse to admit shit but I can't respond to this anymore. So have a good Xmas or whatever DH. I truly mean that.

[Dark Horse]

Look around you. Do you get the impression that SBR realizes they made a huge mistake (or, worse, were caught red-handed)? But in spite of the worst event in SBR's history, an event that caused SBR players a six or seven figure amount, you can't help being the clueless brat that you always are. All you're accomplishing is making SBR look even more classless than they already are. And that's quite the achievement. Gotta give you that.

[pokernut9999]

If all the balances are true , they lost their ass.

[flyingillini]

If all the balances are true , they lost their ass.

You can guarantee those are doctored to make some players not feel as bad. Deception is a crazy thing. People really need to understand what's going on here, most can't comprehend it though.

[shari91]

Look around you. Do you get the impression that SBR realizes they made a huge mistake (or, worse, were caught red-handed)? But in spite of the worst event in SBR's history, an event that caused SBR players a six or seven figure amount, you can't help being the clueless brat that you always are. All you're accomplishing is making SBR look even more classless than they already are. And that's quite the achievement. Gotta give you that.

And again you keep attacking costing me yet another $20. Dude it's Christmas.

Please just admit that YOU MADE A MISTAKE TOO. YOU SAID what I quoted above. YOU WERE ONE OF THE GUYS WHORING out this book even before they had a banner here. I know you think you're a big shot but you're sending me into the hole each time with this stuff no matter how humorous it is. Do not send Justin7 to the slaughter when you're the little dink who tried to devise his own ratings system not only for books but for guys living in CR too. Oooh he worked at WagerChief... must = a good guy. Are you joking? You're the classless piece of trash for calling out someone when your own history is horrible. STFU and leave it to the guys who have lost money based on SBR'S recommendation solely. Because you sure as fukk didn't you hypocrite.

Waiting for the edit, insults and diversion yet no admission in 3, 2, 1....

[evo34]

I said the financial backer was not arrested in October. I did not say he wasn't arrested.

You're better than this (I hope).

[Dark Horse]

Girl, why would I click on the links you, in your obsession with me, care to dig up from way in the past? Your approach to logic is laughable. If you insist on overlooking the difference between past and present, so you can set the tone for an unrelated argument, be my guest. You're one of these annoying people that gladly derail a topic just because they want to be right about some off-topic of their own definition.