betislands, are they same company with EZ street now??

[CollegePro]

the reason why I am asking this is because I called them earlier today and music they played while I was put on hold is exact same music with exact same message as EZ street sports.... what's going on?

[bachngocduong]

i don't know but i can tell customer service going down

[downsouth]

i don't know but i can tell customer service going down

Any chance you start paying back the points you borrowed from me/DNGF or have you just decided to keep/steal them?

[bobbywaves]

Bach is a stiff like Snickerdoodles? I would like to see an updated stiff list.

[DimSum]

And they both require all caps in passwords

[CollegePro]

I think we need explanation Jon.

[darkhat]

i fukkin hope not

[CollegePro]

It seems that way.. Both place needing to use cap for password and both place using same music when they put customers on hold... So I guess recent threads about BetIslands financial situation was right and they merge with ez??? That's just my assumption until Jon comes in here to explain to us.

[Bill Dozer]

We are still getting updates from BI on this. Yes, they are on their wagering platform now. That's why you are seeing earlier lines and overnights. Here is what else we know so far...

BetIslands is running 7redsports now and took over their office space in the EZ building.

BetIslands told us they don't want to be associated with a debt and will be paying Corey his casino winnings. We'll hopefully be updating on his payments soon.

[wrongturn]

We are still getting updates from BI on this. Yes, they are on their wagering platform now. That's why you are seeing earlier lines and overnights. Here is what else we know so far...

BetIslands is running 7redsports now and took over their office space in the EZ building.

BetIslands told us they don't want to be associated with a debt and will be paying Corey his casino winnings. We'll hopefully be updating on his payments soon.

Wow, so the rumor was true. Kudos to them for paying Corey. Maybe one day it can take over Heritage so his mom will get her share.

[darkhat]

hmmmmm

[Believeland]

so is this considered bad news then for BI?

[darkhat]

Strange

good for corey

I don't like BI being associated with them though really

not at this point anyway

[babyjesus]

Sales/CS
1(800)977-4797

Wagering
1(800)863-3811

[5mike5]

RUN

[DudleyDawson]

I don't know about this

[Betislands]

Hi guys,

Hope all is well as confirmed by SBR , we saw an opportunity to grab a small book and an opportunity to utilize wagering service thats providing the things you guys have always asked for : earlier lines , overnight lines on all mayor sports , better racebook amongst other things.

This is actually a positive step for us with an attempt to expand , our payouts have continued to go out on time like they always have , we have expanded our facilites and a new website + new betting engine is coming out in the next few days.

These forums are here to inform players , and this is what I have always tried to do although it seems that some people get alarmed about certain situations when there is no real reason to be alarmed about.

I have always stated be alarmed when clients are not getting paid ( we have never had a single complaint out there ), not because we are trying to expand or we had a few technical hi cups on the way there.

Cheers

[darkhat]

Jon, since you are running 7red, are they going to have the same payout speeds, customer service etc

betilslands endorsement of safety?

[Bill Dozer]

Wow, so the rumor was true. Kudos to them for paying Corey. Maybe one day it can take over Heritage so his mom will get her share.

Corey with EasyStreet was a case of not paying winnings. He lucks out with BI being involved. I think it's good for EasyStreet too since Corey was their only issue in the past few years.

Corey with Heritage is a case of circumventing limits and multiple fraudulent accts. We gave our opinion on that one early on.

[housecloud]

Sales/CS
1(800)977-4797

Wagering
1(800)863-3811

[penstothecup]

Corey with EasyStreet was a case of not paying winnings. He lucks out with BI being involved. I think it's good for EasyStreet too since Corey was their only issue in the past few years.

Corey with Heritage is a case of circumventing limits and multiple fraudulent accts. We gave our opinion on that one early on.

So to clarify, SBR's stance is that if a player gets caught controlling multiple accounts, that the resolution is to void all action (win or lose) and refund all deposits to player (less the transfer fees)???

[CollegePro]

Jon, so since 7redsports and betisalnds is same company now, are we allowed to have both accounts?? I opened 7reds long time ago and never really used them. And like someone asked, 7redsports will have same payout system as betislands?? and also, is this means you guys will have book to book transfer from betislands to 7reds and vice versa?? this will be huge because we will be able to get 2 payouts/wk instead of one. one from betislands and one from 7reds... Please update us some more info Jon!

[Bill Dozer]

So to clarify, SBR's stance is that if a player gets caught controlling multiple accounts, that the resolution is to void all action (win or lose) and refund all deposits to player (less the transfer fees)???

The book shouldn't knowingly profit from these situations but players who commit fraud put themselves in potentially no-win situation if they are caught. To win is to not get caught. I think in the Heritage case, after the player got all his losses back the difference between what he won and what he was refunded wasn't all that much.

[penstothecup]

The book shouldn't knowingly profit from these situations but players who commit fraud put themselves in potentially no-win situation if they are caught. To win is to not get caught. I think in the Heritage case, after the player got all his losses back the difference between what he won and what he was refunded wasn't all that much.

So if a book knows that a player were controlling multiple accounts and accepted his deposits anyway in hopes he would lose, but then when the player got lucky and won on a deposit, your decision would be that the book should void all action and refund deposits instead of paying the player the winnings in order to keep the book from being able to free roll the player??? Is this correct???

[CollegePro]

so bill, what do you think about my situation with 5dimes?? I just found out that I was never supposed to make a deposit with any kinds of card... my account supposed to be cash only deposit and of course I didn't know about this. Went out purchased the card and deposit about $700 or 800 into my 5dimes account in about week and half period. I had issue with my payout and talk to cc dept manager and she said deposit I made recently will be accepted(of course because I lost all the money) but from now on, no more card deposits. and she said she deosn't understand why they accepted in first place because my account is set up for cash only since back in 2010.

[KGambler]

So I guess recent threads about BetIslands financial situation was right and they merge with ez???

Whoa, what threads were these? What about BI's financial situation?

[sharpcat]

The book shouldn't knowingly profit from these situations but players who commit fraud put themselves in potentially no-win situation if they are caught. To win is to not get caught. I think in the Heritage case, after the player got all his losses back the difference between what he won and what he was refunded wasn't all that much.

25k not that much???

Bill,

Will Pinnacle sports be stealing the winnings of all US based accounts who were committing fraud? or will they do what an honest bookmaker would do and pay the accounts and take steps to prevent it from happening again in the future?

Do you feel that Pinnacle would be justified in resetting the balances of all of the players who were found to have been playing from the US?

[looneytunes]

So if a book knows that a player were controlling multiple accounts and accepted his deposits anyway in hopes he would lose, but then when the player got lucky and won on a deposit, your decision would be that the book should void all action and refund deposits instead of paying the player the winnings in order to keep the book from being able to free roll the player??? Is this correct???

your assuming the book knows that a player that they barred is playing under a new name. From what i read, this was not the case

[penstothecup]

your assuming the book knows that a player that they barred is playing under a new name. From what i read, this was not the case

Agreed. Just curious though, hypothetically, what would your opinion be in the player had proof that the book knew he was controlling multiple accounts all along and was letting him deposit until he won?

[PharaohUB]

Guys this isn't news. They have been affiliated for a few months now. Wasn't there a discussion about this awhile back on SBR?

[DudleyDawson]

Guys this isn't news. They have been affiliated for a few months now. Wasn't there a discussion about this awhile back on SBR?

Yea and both sides adamantly denied it.

[5mike5]

Yea and both sides adamantly denied it.

ur exactly right both did

[HedgeHog]

Strange

good for corey

I don't like BI being associated with them though really

not at this point anyway

I wouldn't be concerned in the least about BI buying out the EZ brand. I played at EZ when the Cory shit happened. As I recall, EZ had a free p2p payout once a week-- on Tuesdays. They paid me everytime, same day and w/o charge. In fact, Cory was the only problem this Book had.

IMO you should trust BI even more because of this purchase. Think about it, if BI is willing to pay a known scamster his 46k in disputed winnings, then odds are greatly enhanced that a honest joe like you is going to collect too--and quickly. This is actually a good thing. Hat's off to Jon and BI.

[prop]

Corey with Heritage is a case of circumventing limits and multiple fraudulent accts. We gave our opinion on that one early on.

The opinion was bull shit as was regulation of that thread.

[robmpink]

Awesome news!