Pending :
25.07 Brazil Ser A Figueirense Internacional RS over 2,25 @ 1,85 0,49%
27.07 Norwegian T Stromsgodset Fredrikstad over 3,25 @ 2,17 1,24%
27.07 Irish Div1 SD Galway Longford Town over 3 @ 2,46 1,00%
27.07 Irish Cork City Shelbourne over 2,25 @ 1,90 0,85%
27.07 Irish Div1 Wexford Youths Mervue United over 3 @ 2,46 1,20%
29.07 J2 League Roasso Kumamoto Tokushima Vortis under 2 @ 2,07 2,00%
29.07 Allsvenskan Mjällby AIK Solna under 1,75 @ 2,71 0,41%
29.07 Finnish V Vaasa VPS MyPa under 1,75 @ 2,45 0,46%
29.07 Norwegian T Honefoss BK Haugesund under 2,75 @ 1,65 0,91%
29.07 Norwegian 1 Ranheim Baerum SK Sandvika over 3,25 @ 1,83 0,84%
30.07 Finnish V Inter Turku IFK Mariehamn over 3 @ 2,21 0,92%
31.07 Allsvenskan IFK Goteborg Syrianska FC over 2,25 @ 1,59 0,62%
Adding :
28.07 Brazil Ser B Guarani SP Atletico Paranaense under 2,5 @ 1,84 0,86% 188Bet
28.07 Brazil Ser B Vitória BA CRB Maceio over 3 @ 2,02 0,88% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#108
Pending :
25.07 Brazil Ser A Figueirense Internacional RS over 2,25 @ 1,85 0,49%
27.07 Norwegian T Stromsgodset Fredrikstad over 3,25 @ 2,17 1,24%
27.07 Irish Div1 SD Galway Longford Town over 3 @ 2,46 1,00%
27.07 Irish Cork City Shelbourne over 2,25 @ 1,90 0,85%
27.07 Irish Div1 Wexford Youths Mervue United over 3 @ 2,46 1,20%
28.07 Brazil Ser B Guarani SP Atletico Paranaense under 2,5 @ 1,84 0,86%
28.07 Brazil Ser B Vitória BA CRB Maceio over 3 @ 2,02 0,88%
29.07 J2 League Roasso Kumamoto Tokushima Vortis under 2 @ 2,07 2,00%
29.07 Allsvenskan Mjällby AIK Solna under 1,75 @ 2,71 0,41%
29.07 Finnish V Vaasa VPS MyPa under 1,75 @ 2,45 0,46%
29.07 Norwegian T Honefoss BK Haugesund under 2,75 @ 1,65 0,91%
29.07 Norwegian 1 Ranheim Baerum SK Sandvika over 3,25 @ 1,83 0,84%
30.07 Finnish V Inter Turku IFK Mariehamn over 3 @ 2,21 0,92%
31.07 Allsvenskan IFK Goteborg Syrianska FC over 2,25 @ 1,59 0,62%
Adding :
28.07 Superettan Brommapojkarna Landskrona BoIS over 3 @ 2,05 0,72% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#109
something got lost in translation, technical problems
peru and canada left for this week, should be coming out <24h
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#110
Pending :
27.07 Norwegian T Stromsgodset Fredrikstad over 3,25 @ 2,17 1,24%
27.07 Irish Div1 SD Galway Longford Town over 3 @ 2,46 1,00%
27.07 Irish Cork City Shelbourne over 2,25 @ 1,90 0,85%
27.07 Irish Div1 Wexford Youths Mervue United over 3 @ 2,46 1,20%
28.07 Superettan Brommapojkarna Landskrona BoIS over 3 @ 2,05 0,72%
28.07 Brazil Ser B Guarani SP Atletico Paranaense under 2,5 @ 1,84 0,86%
28.07 Brazil Ser B Vitória BA CRB Maceio over 3 @ 2,02 0,88% + 3 @ 2,02 0,10% Pinnacle
29.07 J2 League Roasso Kumamoto Tokushima Vortis under 2 @ 2,07 2,00% + 2 @ 2,08 0,20% Dafabet
29.07 Allsvenskan Mjällby AIK Solna under 1,75 @ 2,71 0,41%
29.07 Finnish V Vaasa VPS MyPa under 1,75 @ 2,45 0,46%
29.07 Norwegian T Honefoss BK Haugesund under 2,75 @ 1,65 0,91%
29.07 Norwegian 1 Ranheim Baerum SK Sandvika over 3,25 @ 1,83 0,84%
30.07 Finnish V Inter Turku IFK Mariehamn over 3 @ 2,21 0,92%
31.07 Allsvenskan IFK Goteborg Syrianska FC over 2,25 @ 1,59 0,62%
Comment
PuffPaffy
SBR Rookie
06-23-12
30
#111
Originally posted by tukkk
i think you can conclude the profitability even now, the theoretical value im getting from beating closers is going up and will continue to do so
all in all soccer market closers are quite efficient, if you analyse pretty much whatever soccer league that Pinnacle provides, you can see that overall the closing odds reflect the probability
You are saying in the pinny euro-soccer CL isnt any value? i dont agree atall,
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#112
Originally posted by PuffPaffy
You are saying in the pinny euro-soccer CL isnt any value? i dont agree atall,
i wasnt saying that, there are CL's that have value
i was just stating the fact, that overall the %s run very close and anybody with a database of even 1k games can see that
thats why i wrote "overall" and thats why i bet the games when the line moves against me
we were talking about my model's profitability and there really is only one way to analyse that if you dont have a 2000+ sample size, wouldnt you agree?
im at the moment achieving 4% ROI versus no-vig closing lines and that leads me to believe that my ROI is >4%
">" because of two facts: 1) i have a good asian handicap calculator that solves all markets & finds the market with best value and 2) i believe i hit those CL's that have value, so i do agree with that POV (to some degree)
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#113
uphill climb ahead
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#114
... can i at least get one winning day
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#115
Pending :
29.07 Allsvenskan Mjällby AIK Solna under 1,75 @ 2,71 0,41%
29.07 Finnish V Vaasa VPS MyPa under 1,75 @ 2,45 0,46%
29.07 Norwegian T Honefoss BK Haugesund under 2,75 @ 1,65 0,91%
29.07 Norwegian 1 Ranheim Baerum SK Sandvika over 3,25 @ 1,83 0,84%
30.07 Finnish V Inter Turku IFK Mariehamn over 3 @ 2,21 0,92%
31.07 Allsvenskan IFK Goteborg Syrianska FC over 2,25 @ 1,59 0,62%
Adding :
29.07 Canadian SL Brantford Galaxy SC Waterloo Region over 3,25 @ 1,88 2,31% 188Bet
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#116
Pending :
29.07 Canadian SL Brantford Galaxy SC Waterloo Region over 3,25 @ 1,88 2,31% + 3,25 @ 1,98 0,45% Dafabet
30.07 Finnish V Inter Turku IFK Mariehamn over 3 @ 2,21 0,92%
31.07 Allsvenskan IFK Goteborg Syrianska FC over 2,25 @ 1,59 0,62%
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#117
results at the moment
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#118
Adding :
31.07 Brazil Ser B Goias ABC RN over 2,25 @ 1,63 0,84% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#119
Pending :
31.07 Brazil Ser B Goias ABC RN over 2,25 @ 1,63 0,84%
Adding :
01.08 Brazil Ser B CRB Maceio Ipatinga over 3 @ 2,15 0,81% Dafabet
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#120
Pending :
01.08 Brazil Ser B CRB Maceio Ipatinga over 3 @ 2,15 0,81% + 3 @ 2,29 0,58% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#121
Adding :
05.08 Norwegian 1 Bryne Notodden FK over 3 @ 2,11 0,95% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#122
Pending :
05.08 Norwegian 1 Bryne Notodden FK over 3 @ 2,11 0,95%
Adding :
03.08 Irish Div1 Finn Harps SD Galway over 3 @ 2,19 3,75% Pinnacle
05.08 Finnish V Haka Inter Turku over 2,25 @ 1,79 1,00% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#123
Pending :
03.08 Irish Div1 Finn Harps SD Galway over 3 @ 2,19 3,75%
05.08 Finnish V Haka Inter Turku over 2,25 @ 1,79 1,00%
05.08 Norwegian 1 Bryne Notodden FK over 3 @ 2,11 0,95%
Adding :
05.08 Brazil Ser A Sao Paulo Sport Club do Recife over 3 @ 2,37 0,71% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#124
Adding :
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#125
Pending :
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
Adding :
09.08 Brazil Ser A Atletico Mineiro Coritiba over 3 @ 2,18 1,24% Pinnacle
08.08 Brazil Ser A Sport Club do Recife Vasco da Gama under 2 @ 2,52 3,21% Pinnacle
Comment
yysmer
SBR High Roller
05-09-12
102
#126
Enough data base to prove that your system doesn't work.
Comment
yysmer
SBR High Roller
05-09-12
102
#127
Oh wait, actually if works if you fade it.
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#128
i would appreciate it if you cared to explain your reasoning
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#129
Pending :
08.08 Brazil Ser A Sport Club do Recife Vasco da Gama under 2 @ 2,52 3,21%
09.08 Brazil Ser A Atletico Mineiro Coritiba over 3 @ 2,18 1,24%
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
Adding :
08.08 Icelandic FH Hafnarfjordur Selfoss over 3 @ 1,89 5,44% Pinnacle
08.08 Icelandic Stjarnan Gardabaer Keflavik over 3 @ 1,99 1,33% Pinnacle
08.08 Icelandic Valur Reykjavik Breidablik under 2,5 @ 2,00 0,59% Dafabet
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#130
Pending :
08.08 Icelandic FH Hafnarfjordur Selfoss over 3 @ 1,89 5,44%
08.08 Icelandic Stjarnan Gardabaer Keflavik over 3 @ 1,99 1,33%
08.08 Icelandic Valur Reykjavik Breidablik under 2,5 @ 2,00 0,59%
08.08 Brazil Ser A Sport Club do Recife Vasco da Gama under 2 @ 2,52 3,21%
09.08 Brazil Ser A Atletico Mineiro Coritiba over 3 @ 2,18 1,24%
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
Adding :
11.08 J-League Kashiwa Reysol FC Tokyo over 3 @ 2,13 2,03% Pinnacle
Comment
yysmer
SBR High Roller
05-09-12
102
#131
Originally posted by tukkk
i would appreciate it if you cared to explain your reasoning
Look at your curve it's constantly decreasing. 90 bets is a big enough sample size.
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#132
Pending :
08.08 Icelandic FH Hafnarfjordur Selfoss over 3 @ 1,89 5,44%
08.08 Icelandic Stjarnan Gardabaer Keflavik over 3 @ 1,99 1,33%
08.08 Icelandic Valur Reykjavik Breidablik under 2,5 @ 2,00 0,59%
08.08 Brazil Ser A Sport Club do Recife Vasco da Gama under 2 @ 2,52 3,21%
09.08 Brazil Ser A Atletico Mineiro Coritiba over 3 @ 2,18 1,24%
11.08 J-League Kashiwa Reysol FC Tokyo over 3 @ 2,13 2,03%
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
Adding :
12.08 Norwegian 1 Sarpsborg 08 Strommen over 3,25 @ 2,07 0,57% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#133
Pending :
08.08 Icelandic FH Hafnarfjordur Selfoss over 3 @ 1,89 5,44%
08.08 Icelandic Stjarnan Gardabaer Keflavik over 3 @ 1,99 1,33%
08.08 Icelandic Valur Reykjavik Breidablik under 2,5 @ 2,00 0,59% + 2,5 @ 2,08 0,36% Dafabet
08.08 Brazil Ser A Sport Club do Recife Vasco da Gama under 2 @ 2,52 3,21%
09.08 Brazil Ser A Atletico Mineiro Coritiba over 3 @ 2,18 1,24%
11.08 J-League Kashiwa Reysol FC Tokyo over 3 @ 2,13 2,03%
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
12.08 Norwegian 1 Sarpsborg 08 Strommen over 3,25 @ 2,07 0,57%
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#134
Pending :
11.08 J-League Kashiwa Reysol FC Tokyo over 3 @ 2,13 2,03% + 3 @ 2,19 0,44% Pinnacle
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
12.08 Norwegian 1 Sarpsborg 08 Strommen over 3,25 @ 2,07 0,57%
Comment
hotelis
SBR MVP
05-31-12
1995
#135
Computers/scientists once predicted Cleveland Cavaliers to win NBA championship.
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#136
Pending :
11.08 J-League Kashiwa Reysol FC Tokyo over 3 @ 2,13 2,03% & 3 @ 2,19 0,44% + 3 @ 2,36 0,52% 188Bet
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69%
12.08 Norwegian 1 Sarpsborg 08 Strommen over 3,25 @ 2,07 0,57%
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#137
Pending :
12.08 Norwegian T Sogndal Rosenborg under 3 @ 1,56 2,69% + 3 @ 1,59 0,22% Pinnacle
12.08 Norwegian 1 Sarpsborg 08 Strommen over 3,25 @ 2,07 0,57%
Adding :
12.08 Canadian SL Brampton City United Mississauga Eagles over 3,5 @ 1,90 1,47% SBObet
12.08 Canadian SL York Region Shooters Serbian White Eagles over 3 @ 2,11 4,91% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#138
Pending :
13.08 Canadian SL Brampton City United Mississauga Eagles over 3,5 @ 1,90 1,47%
Adding :
26.08 Norwegian T Haugesund Stabaek over 3,25 @ 2,10 0,82% Pinnacle
Comment
tukkk
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
391
#139
Pending :
13.08 Canadian SL Brampton City United Mississauga Eagles over 3,5 @ 1,90 1,47%
26.08 Norwegian T Haugesund Stabaek over 3,25 @ 2,10 0,82%
Adding :
18.08 J-League FC Tokyo Omiya Ardija over 2,25 @ 1,78 1,78% Pinnacle
18.08 J-League Sagan Tosu Shimizu S Pulse over 2 @ 1,83 3,34% Pinnacle
Comment
PuffPaffy
SBR Rookie
06-23-12
30
#140
He Tukk, I'm wondering at which point you'd give up on your model. You obviously run terrible, but what is the determing factor to abandon your model? Z-score 3.0+? Or you just grind it out untill a certain #bets to get a better sample-size?