My Futbol Plays!

latinrus · 03-23-11, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by phenomenon

Sanka · 03-23-11, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by latinrus

I was thinking to become a PRO but then they said I have to open a new account with one of the bookies in the list.

I already have an account on Pinny and I don't want to open any more accounts. I have on Betfair, Pinny and my Russian bookie.

Other than that most of the bookies are American so nothing good especially when it comes to soccer!

So I basically wont become a pro!

Why not? The more books you play with, the better chance you have of getting the best line available on a game.

latinrus · 03-23-11, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Sanka

Why not? The more books you play with, the better chance you have of getting the best line available on a game.

I just think that I have enough bookies. With the 3 I use I have enough to have good lines.

Pinny always have of the best lines. Betfair helps me to hedge. And the Russian bookie is good cause they sometimes when there are late games they don't change some lines.

latinrus · 03-23-11, 05:37 PM

FML Godoy Cruz already down 0-1!

Please Godoy Cruz I need a comeback!

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 05:52 PM

The best bookies and/or exchanges are Pinnacle and Betfair, nothing else is really needed, i also have other bookies but those two are the ones i use the most. I've been told that for those who bet mainly on soccer SBOBET should also be a bookie to have, i'll open an account with them soon.

latinrus · 03-23-11, 06:10 PM

Godoy Cruz scored! 1-1. Let's go Godoy!

Sanka · 03-23-11, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by latinrus

I just think that I have enough bookies. With the 3 I use I have enough to have good lines.

Pinny always have of the best lines. Betfair helps me to hedge. And the Russian bookie is good cause they sometimes when there are late games they don't change some lines.

So basically you have one bookie to play and one to hedge since the Russian is only for off-lines. I know Pinny usually has very good lines, but I can assure you that between the 15 books I play with (give or take a few, I lost count

) I beat Pinny's lines more often than not, meaning extra profit on every bet that hits.
It's usually the Asians with the best odds, but 5Dimes (which you could use for your pro status) also has pretty good soccer lines. Also has reduced juice on US sports if you forfeit their signup bonus btw.

Sanka · 03-23-11, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Metanoia

The best bookies and/or exchanges are Pinnacle and Betfair, nothing else is really needed, i also have other bookies but those two are the ones i use the most. I've been told that for those who bet mainly on soccer SBOBET should also be a bookie to have, i'll open an account with them soon.

SBOBet is one of the best, but I hate their software personally. If you're not a highroller 12Bet is a good option, their European site is much more user friendly and their odds are very similar.

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Sanka

SBOBet is one of the best, but I hate their software personally. If you're not a highroller 12Bet is a good option, their European site is much more user friendly and their odds are very similar.

Is 188bet a good one too?

Sanka · 03-23-11, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Metanoia

Is 188bet a good one too?

Don't know. They don't accept customers from the Netherlands so I can't play there.

Just like Pinnacle btw

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 06:57 PM

Why isn't Pinnacle accepting customers from the Netherlands?

Ace_of_Spades · 03-23-11, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Metanoia

Why isn't Pinnacle accepting customers from the Netherlands?

The wooden shoes, they don't like the wooden shoes.

Sanka · 03-23-11, 07:06 PM

They're afraid they'll go broke

Actually they're just applying Dutch law, which strickly regulates online gambling. Several other books don't accept Dutch customers because of that either.

sneakerhead · 03-23-11, 07:14 PM

Still 1-1?

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 07:15 PM

That's a bit strange, the same thing happens to US costumers, i say it's strange because most bookies are out of US and EU jurisdiction, so why do they obey those laws? Bookies are usually in off shores, it should be up to the costumers to obey the laws of their own countries or not.

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades

The wooden shoes, they don't like the wooden shoes.

LOL

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Metanoia

That's a bit strange, the same thing happens to US costumers, i say it's strange because most bookies are out of US and EU jurisdiction, so why do they obey those laws? Bookies are usually in off shores, it should be up to the costumers to obey the laws of their own countries or not.

In Portugal gambling is allowed, but if they would forbid online betting, a bookie out of Portugal shouldn't forbid portuguese costumers, because the bookie isn't in Portugal, it should be up to us to obey the law or take the chance to gamble.

latinrus · 03-23-11, 07:27 PM

what a horrible second half 1-1!

stupid mofos!

I even fell asleep while watching the 2nd half! They missed so many chances!

Metanoia · 03-23-11, 07:34 PM

I really hate when teams score early, the over seems to be going and then the teams don't score anymore

latinrus · 03-23-11, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Metanoia

I really hate when teams score early, the over seems to be going and then the teams don't score anymore

Yep no good! I hedge little of my bet on betfair at HT.

But that sucks when they missed so many!

Now I'm on the other game I hope it goes over!

latinrus · 03-23-11, 08:17 PM

1-1 Fluminense-America.
With my luck today there may not be more goals today.

Ace_of_Spades · 03-23-11, 09:09 PM

I'm thinking of laying the draw.

sharlataans · 03-24-11, 01:14 AM

typo

scotty99dog99 · 03-24-11, 02:25 AM

BOL on your plays today

latinrus · 03-24-11, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades

I'm thinking of laying the draw.

Did u lay the draw at the end?

Sanka · 03-24-11, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Metanoia

That's a bit strange, the same thing happens to US costumers, i say it's strange because most bookies are out of US and EU jurisdiction, so why do they obey those laws? Bookies are usually in off shores, it should be up to the costumers to obey the laws of their own countries or not.

Pinny is located in the Dutch Antilles, which until recently was part of the Netherlands. Most other books that don't accept Dutch citizens are located in Malta, which is part of the EU.

It's not that the Dutch government doesn't allow gambling btw, it's just licensed to a very few (Toto and Holland Casino).

It's a bit different in the US, I believe that their government just doesn't allow the banks to do trades that are gambling related. That's why Americans usually have to jump through hoops to get their offshore accounts funded, while I can simply use moneybookers or sometimes even direct bank transfers.

Ace_of_Spades · 03-24-11, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by latinrus

Did u lay the draw at the end?

No, i sat there and just kept telling myself this wasn't ending a draw and didn't even take action and lay the draw, grrrrr.

decado · 03-24-11, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by latinrus

I was thinking to become a PRO but then they said I have to open a new account with one of the bookies in the list. I already have an account on Pinny and I don't want to open any more accounts. I have on Betfair, Pinny and my Russian bookie. Other than that most of the bookies are American so nothing good especially when it comes to soccer! So I basically wont become a pro!

you can use pinny for PRO. i did that. no need to open a new one.

Ace_of_Spades · 03-24-11, 07:48 AM

Think Huanuco can get something from Oriento.

Metanoia · 03-24-11, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by Sanka

Pinny is located in the Dutch Antilles, which until recently was part of the Netherlands. Most other books that don't accept Dutch citizens are located in Malta, which is part of the EU.

It's not that the Dutch government doesn't allow gambling btw, it's just licensed to a very few (Toto and Holland Casino).

It's a bit different in the US, I believe that their government just doesn't allow the banks to do trades that are gambling related. That's why Americans usually have to jump through hoops to get their offshore accounts funded, while I can simply use moneybookers or sometimes even direct bank transfers.

I remembered that part of Pinny being in the Dutch Antilles later. The Dutch law in this case, like the French and even the American are protective laws i think, it means you can play only in bookies or casinos located in Holland am i right?

The US case is even worse no doubt specially from a country that has Las Vegas and Atlantic City. The so called moral behind those laws against gambling are just an hipocrisy to defend some interests, but the good thing is that there's always a way to go around

Metanoia · 03-24-11, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by decado

you can use pinny for PRO. i did that. no need to open a new one.

Decado i think they've changed the rules, and SBR doesn't allow the use of old accounts to become PRO, i think it has to be with new accounts, unless you already have accounts with all their sponsors. At least that's what i've read in the forum 2/3 days ago

latinrus · 03-24-11, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by decado

you can use pinny for PRO. i did that. no need to open a new one.

No, see what they answered to me in the forum. I remember it was as u say before but not now!

Originally posted by latinrus

What if I already have my account in Pinny and i wanted to use that to become a PRO? I really don't need an account in any US Bookie.

Right now my Pinny account is without use so I can make a deposit of 200 and use it so become a PRO?

Originally posted by Lou

Hi latinrus,

No, you would need to open a new account through the promo links provided in the Pro application. Then you would be required to make the deposit of $200+.

WillHill (SBR rating A) isn't US-facing and is also on the list, if you don't have an account there.

that sucks!

Metanoia · 03-24-11, 08:22 AM

William Hill sucks really, very low limits

decado · 03-24-11, 10:26 AM

uh.. that blows. it worked fine with my existing account.
why don't you try: cash out/delete old pinny and then register/deposit new via sbr link.

i'd not consider any other bookie other than pinny/betfair.

Metanoia · 03-24-11, 11:30 AM

I think The Greek is a trustable bookie too, i never used but a lot of people tell the best about the Olympic group: The Greek and BetJamaica, but i think BetJamaica has no soccer.