Why do you think the MLS is no good?

Jimmy0607 · 07-18-10, 11:26 PM

Becuase they waste their money they need to take their ass down to south america and look for talent just like the Europeans do but no instead they buy some bullshit ass players who are nobodys or they actually get someone whos Recognizable but hes washed up , gotta build from the ground

nulldah · 07-19-10, 12:15 AM

I'm not sure myself. I just watch 2 Superliga matches today. I almost fall asleep with the first one, Houston vs Chivas. Then, I suddenly feel alive watching Pachuca v Pueblo match. Both US and Mexico leagues, I believe, have majority of local players + "second class" player from South America.

Maybe because of the style of football? Or they don't enjoy it at all? I watch number of MLS games, and in almost every game, I keep seeing players do stupid move missing chances, which I totally can't understand.

Comparing league, for me, even Scottish league is better. If I want to think another league that can make me sleep, I think it's Russian league.

JOHON8 · 07-19-10, 12:35 AM

It's all about the culture that affects the game. They can spend as much money as they want, but they won't get the same level of football in other countries if they keep looking at the game like they do in Baseball, A.Football, Hockey etc... there is more to this game than just being fit and strong, you need skill, talent and intelligence that comes with a love for the game. In American culture which there isn't a lot of love for the sport, there is more expectation to win trophies.

Alexgurv · 07-19-10, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

I'm not sure myself. I just watch 2 Superliga matches today. I almost fall asleep with the first one, Houston vs Chivas. Then, I suddenly feel alive watching Pachuca v Pueblo match. Both US and Mexico leagues, I believe, have majority of local players + "second class" player from South America.

Maybe because of the style of football? Or they don't enjoy it at all? I watch number of MLS games, and in almost every game, I keep seeing players do stupid move missing chances, which I totally can't understand.

Comparing league, for me, even Scottish league is better. If I want to think another league that can make me sleep, I think it's Russian league.

Disagree with the Russian league comparison. It's not that high scoring but I don't see anyway a MLS team makes it the Europa Cup final. I think the Russian league can be boring but thats because there defensive mind. A team like Zenit can compete with some of the best I think in Europe this year

Slainte · 07-19-10, 12:44 AM

MLS looks similar to the Austrian Bundesliga or the Swiss Premier

nulldah · 07-19-10, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Alexgurv

Disagree with the Russian league comparison. It's not that high scoring but I don't see anyway a MLS team makes it the Europa Cup final. I think the Russian league can be boring but thats because there defensive mind. A team like Zenit can compete with some of the best I think in Europe this year

I just compare it to my sleepiness level

Of course, if based on skills, Russian league is much better than MLS and in that terms, I could agree if it being compared to Scottish league or other "small" league in Europe like Austria, Swiss as Slainte mentioned.

Masu485 · 07-19-10, 12:53 AM

That's crazy. I never noticed that before. I don't know if it's just coincidence (high chance it is), but CFL doesn't have a dominant team either and it sucks. Same with WNBA. NHL has a lot of parity so it's tough to be a consistent dominant team (but then again, it is the least popular of the major leagues in the US).

pats3peat · 07-19-10, 01:05 AM

i think its pretty good

nulldah · 07-19-10, 05:57 AM

i think i have a new answer, haha.. This is just from my observation, in MLS, team tend to stay back once they score 1-0. And most of the time, this is the team with majority possession. But they don't want to go forward, they just passing the ball at the back or long pass to the front. Then, this long pass will 90% go to opponent (the other 10% is the scoring chance with another small percentage of goal scored). Then, this opponent get the ball, but still can't break the defense. This whole circle make it really boring to watch.

suckerforparlays · 07-19-10, 07:53 AM

MLS just isnt nearly as old as the European organizations so MLS isnt established as highly rated

bostonbruins · 07-19-10, 08:32 AM

MLS is like watching AA or AAA baseball , the game is the same but the players aren't exactly at the top level

Socrates · 07-19-10, 09:39 AM

I bet on the Galaxy and Dynamo last night. Didn't even watch the games, just flipped it to the game to check out the scores, then went back to whatever else I was watching.

nicsbr · 07-19-10, 10:22 AM

the transfer window and transfer rules, i think the leauge has to be more european if it wanna be better

Karayilan9 · 07-19-10, 10:56 AM

MLS is a new league and improving each season, alot of the teams have set up youth academies and bought in coaches from Europe. A few seasons ago nobody used to turn up at most the games, these days I am seeing less empty seats and some of the teams have established supporter groups.

The level of football is mediocre but the system is starting to produce some decent talent, as long as they keep it up there will be some good talents coming out of the MLS.

MarlinsFan2212 · 07-19-10, 11:01 AM

Its improving every year, but once you start watching some of the soccer over in Europe its basically like what the CFL is to the NFL.

jsmwag · 07-19-10, 11:06 AM

The teams still lack personality.
Every country with a great league has teams everyone can identify with. For example you sorta know what kind of person someone will be depending on whether they prefer Barca or Real Madrid.
It's silly stuff like that, which I hope makes sense to others lol.
MLS still doesn't have that and it makes the game seem stale.

Dark Horse · 07-19-10, 03:43 PM

The bottom level of players is not high enough. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. So you can't play good soccer if you have too many amateurish players. They pull down the level. Once the basic foundation of the team is in place then star players can provide extra quality. But that extra quality is mostly lost when the team isn't functioning properly because the team foundation is weak.

Once you raise the bottom level of players, you will see better soccer. It starts with technique. Most Americans, even in the national team, have poor technique. They either lack skill or it looks unnatural. I've yet to see the first American player where it looks like the ball is tied to his feet with a string. The first touch is not good. When you start seeing MLS teams play one-touch soccer you'll know things are heading in the right direction. It requires good technique, and positional play, as well as a knowledge of what to do with the ball before it is received. That whole flow crumbles to pieces with even one bad player. lol

BiffTFinancial · 07-19-10, 03:50 PM

the players have less finishing class than Mel Gibson. hey-ooh.

Gilero · 07-19-10, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

The bottom level of players is not high enough. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. So you can't play good soccer if you have too many amateurish players. They pull down the level. Once the basic foundation of the team is in place then star players can provide extra quality. But that extra quality is mostly lost when the team isn't functioning properly because the team foundation is weak.

Once you raise the bottom level of players, you will see better soccer. It starts with technique. Most Americans, even in the national team, have poor technique. They either lack skill or it looks unnatural. I've yet to see the first American player where it looks like the ball is tied to his feet with a string. The first touch is not good. When you start seeing MLS teams play one-touch soccer you'll know things are heading in the right direction. It requires good technique, and positional play, as well as a knowledge of what to do with the ball before it is received. That whole flow crumbles to pieces with even one bad player. lol

Yes But to see good football relies heavily on the coaches, since they are the ones who impose the style of play. (Offended or defended) But if you are mediocre players will not look good football in life, because the coaches chose to be defended. Another thing is the selection and that not having a competitive league involves having a bad selection and if you do not see Argentina, the league is average but is always ready to win a championship because they have many players in Europe and while the U.S. does not aga will not have the same chance of winning anything.

Jay Price · 07-19-10, 06:35 PM

Agreed

zlate22 · 07-19-10, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by BiffTFinancial

the players have less finishing class than Mel Gibson. hey-ooh.

ZXCVBNM · 07-20-10, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by nulldah

I'm not sure myself. I just watch 2 Superliga matches today. I almost fall asleep with the first one, Houston vs Chivas. Then, I suddenly feel alive watching Pachuca v Pueblo match. Both US and Mexico leagues, I believe, have majority of local players + "second class" player from South America.

Superliga has been like that this year - this is because Mexico is in pre-season, and most of the teams are using it for practice, so they don't care about results or giving up goals. Almost every game has gone over except the ones with two MLS teams in it.

Karayilan9 · 07-20-10, 12:44 PM

MLS should join the Copa Libertadores, Mexican league teams should stop drifting around the continent, they play in nearly every regional tournament

Copa Libertadores would get more money into the competition, more television rights on English language broadcasts and the competitions status would be raised further.

Barroco · 07-20-10, 02:31 PM

Cola libertadores doesn't need the mls
As long Mexican clubs are in means money in the bank.
Honestly I the mls biggest problem is lack of talent like Donovan who knows what to do with the ball. If soccer was a track race the mls would be the most talented world all they do is run like horses

The General · 07-21-10, 09:50 PM

Pachuca / Chivas USA is a good one. 1-0 USA early.

Enjoy