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  • Sunde91
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 8325

    #1
    Neatherlands -.5 just tanked
    5Dimes went from -155 to -134

    BookMaker went from -170 to -150

    Getting pretty worried about playing Orange here...Uruguay is tough and will fight for their lives and Neatherlands could be up for a let down, now money pounding Uruguay.
  • Goat Milk
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-24-10
    • 25850

    #2
    lol @ line movement in the world cup.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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    • Tevez
      SBR High Roller
      • 06-21-07
      • 131

      #3
      Logically,


      initial prices were SO wrong!!


      I posted about this.



      I see Netherlans at evens 5 mins before the beginning, and still it will be a bad bet.
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      • Sunde91
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-26-09
        • 8325

        #4
        Originally posted by Goat Milk
        lol @ line movement in the world cup.
        Yeah, I would normally agree, but paranoid about this game
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        • Goat Milk
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-24-10
          • 25850

          #5
          Uruguay hasn't beaten a European side in 40 years
          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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          • SolidDala
            SBR MVP
            • 12-14-09
            • 1696

            #6
            they haven't been in semi for 40y either... I do think HOL will win this though
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            • aceking
              SBR MVP
              • 09-07-05
              • 4782

              #7
              Uruguay has no chance without Suarez , Forlan is so bad Man U dumped him few years ago .
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              • Goat Milk
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-24-10
                • 25850

                #8
                Originally posted by aceking
                Uruguay has no chance without Suarez , Forlan is so bad Man U dumped him few years ago .
                Forlan shits on Suarez. Club play doesn't determine who is good. It's those that show up on the international stage that can claim they are world class players. If you've watch any of Uruguay's games you would know that Forlan is their engine.
                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                • Tevez
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 06-21-07
                  • 131

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                  Forlan shits on Suarez. Club play doesn't determine who is good. It's those that show up on the international stage that can claim they are world class players. If you've watch any of Uruguay's games you would know that Forlan is their engine.

                  Well,

                  in spite of thinking differently I see you are objective and you know something about soccer.
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                  • protein
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-20-09
                    • 1231

                    #10
                    Come on. anyone seriously thinking Uruguay to advance from this round? Holland has not shown their real game yet during this World Cup.
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                    • suicidekings
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-23-09
                      • 9962

                      #11
                      Originally posted by protein
                      Come on. anyone seriously thinking Uruguay to advance from this round? Holland has not shown their real game yet during this World Cup.
                      And shouldn't they really have done so by now? They fail to impose their will on anyone so far, but will somehow start playing their real game now?
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                      • sweethook
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-21-07
                        • 12667

                        #12
                        i tell ya it may be a coin flip type game ,tie looks better
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                        • atval
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 05-22-10
                          • 69

                          #13
                          holland is a much better team than uruguay. they will win by 2 goals.
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                          • Giuvara
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-15-10
                            • 873

                            #14
                            The Netherlands should still win. Uruguay without Suarez and Fucile. Alvaro Pereira must hold Robben. Lugano, Godin uncertain. There are too many problems for the Uruguayans to cover. They still a tough team that will fight until the end, but I see Holland winning a low scoring affair.
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                            • STAY STRONG
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 2498

                              #15
                              the dutch will take this one
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                              • ezmoney
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-26-09
                                • 1564

                                #16
                                DUTCH by 2 goals!

                                EZ
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                                • sjm5122
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-22-08
                                  • 4213

                                  #17
                                  Would be careful of a draw here, uruguay could keep it tight.
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                                  • Sforz
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-07-08
                                    • 2221

                                    #18


                                    funny line movement.. unreal.
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                                    • Karayilan9
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-10-09
                                      • 3742

                                      #19
                                      Hope some of you greened up on this game already, the Dutch price was and still is short.
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                                      • lakerboy
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-02-09
                                        • 94379

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                        lol @ line movement in the world cup.
                                        you dont follow closely do you? remember when the dutch were pounded before there game versus brazil ? who won? line movement is not as big in soccer for sure but if you ignore it completely its not wise. books are not in the business of giving away free money. thats why they have luring lines out there like argentina +145ml (versus germany and spain +165 versus germany) todays luring line is holland -0.5 and -1 at -105. are you gonna bite?
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                                        • arizona22
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 03-22-10
                                          • 147

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sjm5122
                                          Would be careful of a draw here, uruguay could keep it tight.
                                          Not today. They would have to play best in years to draw this today.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82838

                                            #22
                                            When Netherlands played Denmark and Japan and when Argentina played South Korea and Greece the line moved against these teams in the morning and they still won their games.
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                                            • Sforz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-07-08
                                              • 2221

                                              #23
                                              yeah, i'm not scared, actually doubled up my bet... if netherlands loses, oh well. but i had them pegged to win the whole thing from day one, and i'm not going back on it... if it's tied at the half, ill bet them some more, they have been very strong in the 2h of their games.
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                                              • Capybara
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-17-08
                                                • 11803

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Giuvara
                                                The Netherlands should still win. Uruguay without Suarez and Fucile. Alvaro Pereira must hold Robben. Lugano, Godin uncertain. There are too many problems for the Uruguayans to cover. They still a tough team that will fight until the end, but I see Holland winning a low scoring affair.
                                                I agree with this... just too many missing players for Uruguay to overcome when they are already facing a more talented team.

                                                1-0, Netherlands.
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                                                • Rixsaw
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 10-23-08
                                                  • 4532

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Sforz
                                                  yeah, i'm not scared, actually doubled up my bet... if netherlands loses, oh well. but i had them pegged to win the whole thing from day one, and i'm not going back on it... if it's tied at the half, ill bet them some more, they have been very strong in the 2h of their games.
                                                  Same here. Netherlands defeated Brazil, and yet people still don't give them any credit. I hope Netherlands will shut up their critics today.
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #26
                                                    If you sit and watch line movement and disregard who you originally thought would win a match, you're doomed.
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                                                    • lakerboy
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                      • 94379

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                      If you sit and watch line movement and disregard who you originally thought would win a match, you're doomed.


                                                      And if you took Netherlands -155 and they close at -135 you will lose doing this type of thing long term. getting beat on closers will ensure you lose in sports betting whether it happens today or not long term it isnt good.
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                                                      • Rixsaw
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-23-08
                                                        • 4532

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                        If you sit and watch line movement and disregard who you originally thought would win a match, you're doomed.
                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                        And if you took Netherlands -155 and they close at -135 you will lose doing this type of thing long term. getting beat on closers will ensure you lose in sports betting whether it happens today or not long term it isnt good.
                                                        So you guys are saying Uruguay is the right play?
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                                                        • lakerboy
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-02-09
                                                          • 94379

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Rixsaw
                                                          So you guys are saying Uruguay is the right play?

                                                          No not at all. EP is saying forget the line move and stick with your original play which in this case for the OP was Holland. Im saying that getting beat by the closing # isnt good and will insure you lose long term. As for the match today my statement really has nothing to do with it other than saying holland was -155 yesterday and now you can have them for -133. So if you took Holland at -155 its not a good bet long term based on the current and potential closing odds.
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                                                          • Rixsaw
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-23-08
                                                            • 4532

                                                            #30
                                                            Thanks for the clarification LB. I took Netherlands ML last night thinking the price will increase. I'm obviously wrong. Lets hope my pick isn't.
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-06-06
                                                              • 71662

                                                              #31
                                                              Yeah exactly what LB said.

                                                              I don't get into what the "correct" play is based off of line movement. I formulate my opinion and stick with it personally. That's why I put that note in my signature to myself to trust my gut instinct and not waffle on who to pick. If you sit on the fence, more often than not, I think you end up screwing yourself. I'd much rather lose with the pick I wanted to take rather than take the pick everyone else thinks you should take based on movement, etc.

                                                              By the by, I'm on Uruguay +0.5/+1.
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                                                              • Unicorn7
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 08-29-09
                                                                • 1445

                                                                #32
                                                                Nice post Eagles Phan
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                                                                • byronbb
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-13-08
                                                                  • 3067

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                  lol @ line movement in the world cup.

                                                                  For England you are correct, as the ever faithful British squares pile on before game time. But for Uruguay this is completely the opposite. I am now convinced the World Cup is the squarest sporting event of all time.
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