Torres or Fabregas ?

hustla · 07-05-10, 04:09 AM

Torres -> Llorente
Busquets -> Fabregas/Silva
Piqué -> Marchena

fedtpels · 07-05-10, 04:19 AM

doesn't make much sense. 0 and 50% chance of beating germany lol. as hustla points out llorente should be first to sub for torres. i think torres will start though.

nbaprofosor · 07-05-10, 04:42 AM

david silva this man can change any thing but del bosquee is such a idiot never give this guy a chance

lockwoot · 07-05-10, 04:45 AM

Originally posted by nbaprofosor

david silva this man can change any thing but del bosquee is such a idiot never give this guy a chance

true and why he still insist that he plays busquets instead of fabregas still blows my mind

fisel · 07-05-10, 04:48 AM

Busquets can stay. Just replace Torres with Fabrigas. It's an absolute no brainer.

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by nbaprofosor

david silva this man can change any thing but del bosquee is such a idiot never give this guy a chance

good point Del bosquee is a stubborn...

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by fedtpels

doesn't make much sense. 0 and 50% chance of beating germany lol. as hustla points out llorente should be first to sub for torres. i think torres will start though.

wat i mean is ... when Torres on the field ..just like spain playing with 10 players ... ....got zero chance to win...when they subs torres it is 11 vs 11 = 50% vs 50% for both side

EaglesPhan36 · 07-05-10, 10:22 AM

Busquets was pretty horrible against Paraguay. I think Fabregas should probably start and use Torres as a late sub where he might have more burst in his legs. Pedro Rodriguez also looked good in his late sub action after a shaky start. Will be interesting to see.

tomcast · 07-05-10, 10:24 AM

Fabregas is def the way to go

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Busquets was pretty horrible against Paraguay. I think Fabregas should probably start and use Torres as a late sub where he might have more burst in his legs. Pedro Rodriguez also looked good in his late sub action after a shaky start. Will be interesting to see.

Phan u should email this message to Del Bosque....he's so stubborn..

Nard Dog · 07-05-10, 10:26 AM

Del Bosque - another inadequate manager like Dunga and Maradona. How the heck do you keep a player like Fabregas on the bench?? Blows my mind, but it's good for me because I don't like Spain at all.

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Nard Dog

Del Bosque - another inadequate manager like Dunga and Maradona. How the heck do you keep a player like Fabregas on the bench?? Blows my mind, but it's good for me because I don't like Spain at all.

milne1510 · 07-05-10, 10:29 AM

Torres is still a world class player. I think its a huge stretch to say its like playing with ten men and they have 0% chance to win with him on the field..

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:30 AM

Look at Arsenal FC .....Big change when Fabregas playing

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by milne1510

Torres is still a world class player. I think its a huge stretch to say its like playing with ten men and they have 0% chance to win with him on the field..

well u are right......i just hate Del Bosque.....Torres just like Rooney ...not ready for this worldcup......still injured

umdterps · 07-05-10, 10:33 AM

Have to go with Fabregas here... Torres has had his chance.

milne1510 · 07-05-10, 10:36 AM

That is definitely true Coogi. I agree with that.

nastradamus · 07-05-10, 10:36 AM

Fabregas must be in the starting 11

COOGI · 07-05-10, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by umdterps

Have to go with Fabregas here... Torres has had his chance.

...i wish DEL Bosque stop by SBR forum....if he stop by here and listen to all our thread ..his team willl win the Worldcup 2010

Mexes · 07-05-10, 11:03 AM

Fabregas. no brainer!

syamster · 07-05-10, 11:12 AM

Torres only scores against bucket teams

COOGI · 07-05-10, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by syamster

Torres only scores against bucket teams

nbaprofosor · 07-05-10, 12:55 PM

arogones made this team in 5 year mannn what team was 2 years ago and teach them one touch fotball they won european cup .they were fantastic.since delbosque took over o m g he changed everything.torres not playing that good and he still start with him.i thing if the spain start with 1 striker(villa) its better .because any one can score any way xavi.iniesta .....ofcourse i would love the see david silva.and also why the sergio ramos playing right wing fwd doesnt he suppose to be play right back

if the germans attack from the right side they will have problem

COOGI · 07-05-10, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by nbaprofosor

arogones made this team in 5 year mannn what team was 2 years ago and teach them one touch fotball they won european cup .they were fantastic.since delbosque took over o m g he changed everything.torres not playing that good and he still start with him.i thing if the spain start with 1 striker(villa) its better .because any one can score any way xavi.iniesta .....ofcourse i would love the see david silva.and also why the sergio ramos playing right wing fwd doesnt he suppose to be play right back

if the germans attack from the right side they will have problem

....i hope Del Bosque stop by here and read your strategy...i agreed

Socrates · 07-05-10, 01:03 PM

Fabregas

nbaprofosor · 07-05-10, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by COOGI

....i hope Del Bosque stop by here and read your strategy...i agreed

one thing fore sure if they lost this game same night delbosque is out too .just like the maradona and dunga
why he has to make to many change in the champ team never understand what he try to prove

maybe if the team success with same player again he didnt want the public thing "argones team win again"

MarlinsFan2212 · 07-05-10, 01:16 PM

Fabregas....seems like a bit better chemistry when he is in.

threats77 · 07-05-10, 01:22 PM

fabregas for sure as most have said,arsenal are my fav club and anyone who watches arsenal knows fabregas creates so much for everyone,hes a play maker ,i agree as well..bring torres as a late sub and start fabregas,will greatly increase chances to win

Karayilan9 · 07-05-10, 01:33 PM

Managers can be very stubborn but hopefully Del Bosque has finally realized that playing with Torres is like playing with 10 men, he may aswell not be on the pitch. I think he will finally drop Torres, if he does the right thing and strengthens the midfield with another world class talent they could run rings round this German team. However, if he starts with Torres they will have to survive untill he gets substituted.

COOGI · 07-05-10, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Managers can be very stubborn but hopefully Del Bosque has finally realized that playing with Torres is like playing with 10 men, he may aswell not be on the pitch. I think he will finally drop Torres, if he does the right thing and strengthens the midfield with another world class talent they could run rings round this German team. However, if he starts with Torres they will have to survive untill he gets substituted.

i will lean with German if Torres start....
Lean with Spain if Fagregas start

Exodus52 · 07-05-10, 03:36 PM

Personally feel that Spain needs a 5 man midfield to break Germany's 5 man midfield

Drop Torres

nbaprofosor · 07-06-10, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by Exodus52

Personally feel that Spain needs a 5 man midfield to break Germany's 5 man midfield

Drop Torres

just to let you know there is only 2 team in whole world have the max midfiled barcelona and spain=xavi,iniesta,david silva,fabregas,xavi alanzo,bisquets so dont be funny

Gilero · 07-06-10, 07:22 AM

Cesc is injured and most probably will not play on a 80%

Gilero · 07-06-10, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Karayilan9

Managers can be very stubborn but hopefully Del Bosque has finally realized that playing with Torres is like playing with 10 men, he may aswell not be on the pitch. I think he will finally drop Torres, if he does the right thing and strengthens the midfield with another world class talent they could run rings round this German team. However, if he starts with Torres they will have to survive untill he gets substituted.

Sorry but I disagree with you or almost anyone who believes that with Torres Spain lose this match. "I ask you in this world who dared to play to your to your to Spain? I answer no. If Germany goes on by the party die in the attempt that Spain is superior in every way to Germany. And finally "who scored the goal to Germany in the final?