Refs Biased towards Italy?

[rfr3sh]

anyone else agree..this is a joke

[Jimmy0607]

100%

[rfr3sh]

PK was a terrible dive. any time NZ touches an italian they already know its a foul

[SRBI]

What are you complaining about its still 1-1 with about 10 minutes left to play, if you got NZ +1.5 you're cashing your ticket.

[rfr3sh]

no bet on this game SRBI..just dont like to see games so biased

[fisel]

Italy are expert ballerinas

[Glada Tartan]

Agree...

Italy cant win even though that the ref is their 12th player.. well.. they suck badly!

[milne1510]

even the announcers were calling it "deeply pathetic" in regards to their dives. So annoying to watch them.

[rfr3sh]

karma

[michalis]

well if you know football you will know that the new zealand goal was offside and should not have counted

[rfr3sh]

well if you know football you will know that the new zealand goal was offside and should not have counted

well if you knew that when it deflected off of the defender that played him onside you probably wouldnt have made that comment

and i do know football..been playing for over 15 yrs and still play .. also a qualified referree

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Forza Italia Everyone hates on Italy cause there jealous

[rfr3sh]

Forza Italia Everyone hates on Italy cause there jealous

typical italian comment like all of my friends

here you guys go

A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
involved in active play by:
• interfering with play or
• interfering with an opponent or
• gaining an advantage by being in that position

so the ball was played by cannavaro, not by his team, and he was not in an advantageous position until cannavaro messed up

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

typical italian comment like all of my friends

here you guys go

I bet your friends just throw it in your face to that we have 4 World Cups? HAHA just kiddin' bro.

[rfr3sh]

I bet your friends just throw it in your face to that we have 4 World Cups? HAHA just kiddin' bro.

ya they do..but thats like there bailout comeback..if they have nothing to say they just say 4 stars..like ya thats old now move on..plus none of them have even been to Italy and they act super italian..go figure..mungicakes

[nikeboyz]

Another tie how great

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

ya they do..but thats like there bailout comeback..if they have nothing to say they just say 4 stars..like ya thats old now move on..plus none of them have even been to Italy and they act super italian..go figure..mungicakes

Haha i'm guessing you live in the GTA cause I do I was actually born in Italia and been there million of times. I love seeing these cakers running around St.Clair, College etc cheering on Italy its hilarious. The best part of being Italian IMO is hating on the Portuguese so much.

[rfr3sh]

Haha i'm guessing you live in the GTA cause I do I was actually born in Italia and been there million of times. I love seeing these cakers running around St.Clair, College etc cheering on Italy its hilarious. The best part of being Italian IMO is hating on the Portuguese so much.

Ya im in the GTA..and yeah they go down there to party etc with all the other mungicakes..and who doesnt hate on the portugese besides themselves haha

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

I hear you brother, its probably annoying and shit for the mutals in it. Happens every 2 years between the Euro and world cup. Canada has to many immigrants including myself

[rfr3sh]

I hear you brother, its probably annoying and shit for the mutals in it. Happens every 2 years between the Euro and world cup. Canada has to many immigrants including myself

lol i immigrated here from england .. where in the GTA are you

[tfarrell12]

well if you knew that when it deflected off of the defender that played him onside you probably wouldnt have made that comment

and i do know football..been playing for over 15 yrs and still play .. also a qualified referree

The player gained an advantage by being offsides, so therefore it should not have been a goal. As you said.. The ball deflected off the Italian defender..It would have been a different matter if he played the ball to him.

There are clear rules about this... Sure you´re a qualified referee?

[pavyracer]

New Zealand goal was offside. And you can't hold the jersey of a player in the box for 5 seconds. The penalty doesn't penalize the severeness of the infraction but the intend. And I was on New Zealand handicap for the game.

[rfr3sh]

New Zealand goal was not offside...you have to be italian if you think it was..the only reason he was in an advantageous posistion was because cannavaro messed up

[oxellos]

wow most of teams that had high performance from last 20 years have been dropping so badly. (France, Italy, England... and so on..)
I hope Spain doesn't follow the path of those teams.

[tfarrell12]

"If a pass deflects off a
defender and ricochets to a teammate in an offside position, it is still offside; the ball still
came from a teammate. That is true even if the deflection completely changed the path of
the ball. Only if the defender gains possession or control of the ball in mid-flight is there
no offside."

[rfr3sh]

"If a pass deflects off a defender and ricochets to a teammate in an offside position, it is still offside; the ball still came from a teammate. That is true even if the deflection completely changed the path of the ball. Only if the defender gains possession or control of the ball in mid-flight is there no offside."

thats not from the fifa rule book

[tfarrell12]

Haha, nope it isn´t. Damn you´re stubborn. Here it is from the fifa rule book:

Once it has been established that a player is in an offside position, the second condition is evaluated in order to decide whether the player is involved in active play by
- interfering with play; or
- interfering with an opponent; or
- gaining an advantage by being in that position.

What does gaining an advantage by being in that position mean?
The International Football Association Board defines it as
- playing a ball that rebounds off a post or the crossbar after having been in an offside position, or
- playing a ball that rebounds off an opponent after having been in an offside position.

[rfr3sh]

it didnt rebound off of the player,he tried to control it and messed up so the offside would have bailed his mistake out...it doesnt work that way

[pavyracer]

He was offside when the ball was hit. It doesn't matter that Cannavaro touched the ball first.

[rfr3sh]

he wasnt involved in the play at that point

[pavyracer]

check the video here. the offside is self explanatory and very obvious.

http://www.worldcupblog.org/world-cup-2010/was-shane-smeltz-offside-when-he-scored-new-zealands-goal-against-italy.html

[rfr3sh]

i watched it many times, not offside

besides the offside every call was towards italy almost
and the penalty shot was almost as bad as de rossi's first dive

edit: just watched it again the NZ player didnt head the deflect the ball so its not offside

[nj6]

Forza Italia Everyone hates on Italy cause there jealous

No they are garbage. Fluke of a team.

[Socrates]

I've got nothing against the Italian side, quality side with great players, but the penalty awarded to them today was pretty awful. I truly felt bad for the New Zealanders.