The World Cup Really Sux and here's why

Chi_archie · 06-15-10, 05:27 PM

I've been enjoying it

dwaechte · 06-15-10, 05:32 PM

What an original and well thought out argument.

pavyracer · 06-15-10, 05:36 PM

I wonder if in the NFL each division had to play only 3 games with the best 2 out of 4 being the teams advancing to the playoffs. Would the games be tight?

Imagine Dallas, Washington, Philadelphia, New York playing each other once on neutral fields in the West Coast and knowing a loss will send them home will they open up the defenses on game 1?

Mr Windy City · 06-15-10, 05:42 PM

my question is how do you come up with this statement?

"North Korea almost beat Brazil"

Really? Brazil was up 2-0 and N. Korea scored with like a minute left in the game, no?......how is that come even close to your statement?

JW Cash · 06-15-10, 05:44 PM

I think the games are filled with passion that you dont see in traditional American sports
and I think thats refreshing....

maersksealand · 06-15-10, 05:51 PM

I agree...soccer suck...end what drives me crazy are the players taking dives...they got touched a little and they phuckin' fly in the mid air screaming...and after a spectacular landing they roll over like 6 times with an agony expresion on their face...and 15 second later they are up and running again.

look at those clovns

DwightShrute · 06-15-10, 05:52 PM

it only gets better as the tournament moves on

durito · 06-15-10, 05:53 PM

At what point did north korea almost beat brazil?

If you argument is to hold up, you should be able to bet all dogs and clean up, right?

pavyracer · 06-15-10, 05:54 PM

diamond · 06-15-10, 05:56 PM

Relax, the tournament will open up, as in game 2 and so on, teams will need to attack more to get the necessary points. Game 1 is always tight, so much on stake.

DwightShrute · 06-15-10, 05:57 PM

like any sport, when great teams play each other it tends to be entertaining. The better teams will move on to the next round and the soccer with get great.

Naz18 · 06-15-10, 05:59 PM

YOu suk

OverUnder · 06-15-10, 06:04 PM

i like it because i am making money betting this shit haha only game I have watched though was USA - England

forsberg21 · 06-15-10, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by coldhardfacts

I know this is going to cause alot of hate, but if this thing is the greatest sporting competition in the world, then bring on Armageddon. The reason the world cup sucks is because every freakin game is a damn pitcher's duel. Now, I like tense 0-0 baseball games and 3-3 defensive football struggles as much as the next guy. But those things are rare - you have to be really, really good to play those kinds of games at the professional level, particularly in championship and playoff competition. Sure, Roy Halladay and CC Sabathia might have a great duel tonight. But in this stupid World Cup it's like Ryan Rowland-Smith vs Chris Tillman and they're pitching shutouts like they're Sandy Koufax and Nolan Ryan. EVERY DAMN GAME!!! In any other sport (baseball, football, hockey, golf, etc.) if you don't show up with your A game you're going to get your ass kicked. In this World Cup BS 30% of your team could be off and it would still be 0-0 after 45 frikkin minutes. Teams can even play a man short and still have a decent shot at winning. EVERYBODY has a decent shot at winning. There is virtually no difference between the great teams and the mediocre teams. North Korea is stone age country for God's sake and they almost beat Brazil, which is supposed to be one of the best teams in the world. That's all.

This post simply wrong and this is why:

You are equating scoring in soccer with scoring in other major sports. Scoring doesn't and should not define how entertaining a sport is. Otherwise, basketball would by far the most exciting sport in the world, when it obviously isn't.

In soccer, teams can easily go through a dozen scoring chances and not score a goal, but they do get close, and that's what makes the game exciting. They play 90 minutes for a reason, and one of them is that it may take a long time before all of those scoring chances get converted into a goal. This is why a team like North Korea can keep a game close (on the scoreboard at least while being dominated) against a superpower like Brazil. Everyone watching that game today will tell you that, judging by the pace of play, there was no way that North Korea was going to win that game, and that it was only a matter of time before Brazil was going to score.

When a player is sent off in soccer, the team still has 9 others playing against 10. It's not like hockey, where a powerplay significantly changes the control of play. Teams in soccer will change their strategy, usually by shelling themselves in, so it's not very noticeable.

If you need the constant stimulation of first downs or a 2 point basket, then you will never have the patience to appreciate soccer. That's the nature of the game and that's why it's the most popular sport in the world, because each goal is a buildup of foiled scoring chances and suspense.

I don't understand how you can say that North Korea almost beat Brazil, anyone watching that game would completely disagree with you. That game could have been played 20 times and Brazil most likely would win all 20. Brazil dominated that game. Just because they didn't win 5-0 doesn't mean that it was a "close" game. When you watch soccer, you get a feel for which team is the dominant one, just like you do with other sports. Just because the scoreboard says 0-0, doesn't necessarily mean the game is close.

coldhardfacts · 06-15-10, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Mr Windy City

my question is how do you come up with this statement?

"North Korea almost beat Brazil"

Really? Brazil was up 2-0 and N. Korea scored with like a minute left in the game, no?......how is that come even close to your statement?

It was 0-0 at halftime. Then Brazil grabbed that insurmountable 1-0 lead.

coldhardfacts · 06-15-10, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

This post simply wrong and this is why:

Just because the scoreboard says 0-0, doesn't necessarily mean the game is close.

I admit I know very little about soccer, although I have been watching some of this event. I never said it was boring - it's pretty exciting, at least until a team scores a goal. I just think this particular tournament is grossly flawed.

But I do find the above statement incredible. If the score is 0-0, the game is, by definition, close. And if you're going to tell me that N. Korea had no chance to win the game, maybe you're right. But you can't possibly tell me that they had no chance to tie Brazil.

Masu485 · 06-15-10, 06:29 PM

For me a big part of it is the time zone difference. I'm never up early enough to watch the two first games, and i'm just stuck watching the last one while having to do other things.

Dirty Sanchez · 06-15-10, 06:36 PM

Unless you've got a weird TV...use the on/off switch, or go watch American Idol

forsberg21 · 06-15-10, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by coldhardfacts

I admit I know very little about soccer, although I have been watching some of this event. I never said it was boring - it's pretty exciting, at least until a team scores a goal. I just think this particular tournament is grossly flawed. But I do find the above statement incredible. If the score is 0-0, the game is, by definition, close. And if you're going to tell me that N. Korea had no chance to win the game, maybe you're right. But you can't possibly tell me that they had no chance to tie Brazil.

When it's 0-0, the score is, by definition, close, but the "game" isn't necessarily close. At any point in today's Brazil/North Korea game when it was 0-0, did you actually think that North Korea had a chance to win? Did you even think the game was "close" at this point? Brazil was dominating the game in ball possession, shots, scoring chances, etc. It was a matter of time before Brazil was going to score. The scoreboard may have read 0-0, but the "game" was never close.

Masu485 · 06-15-10, 06:45 PM

It depends a lot on which broadcast you're watching. I'm watching on a small screen using the CBC feed, so it's boring as hell. I'm sure if ur watching on a big screen with a feed from a different country it would be more fun. That and the time zone difference of course

phenomenon · 06-15-10, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

When it's 0-0, the score is, by definition, close, but the "game" isn't necessarily close. At any point in today's Brazil/North Korea game when it was 0-0, did you actually think that North Korea had a chance to win? Did you even think the game was "close" at this point? Brazil was dominating the game in ball possession, shots, scoring chances, etc. It was a matter of time before Brazil was going to score. The scoreboard may have read 0-0, but the "game" was never close.

did u think NK will score ?

forsberg21 · 06-15-10, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by phenomenon

did u think NK will score ?

Meaningless goal, 89th minute. Do you think Brazil's defense would have been penetrated that easily if the score was 1-0? If this game is played 20 times, North Korea wins 0 times.

suckerforparlays · 06-15-10, 07:08 PM

quit watching it if you dont like it

Dark Horse · 06-15-10, 07:09 PM

There are 64 games. But many soccer fans will tell you that the real tournament won't start until the knockout stages. That leaves 16 games. The first 48 games are just a festive buildup, a kind of carnaval until the real thing starts.

That said, the new ball is definitely FIFA (F*cked It For All). You're not going to see good soccer with this ball because it doesn't obey the precise instructions it is given. That means the players have to treat the ball within a greater safety zone. So the soccer will be far more predictable.

phenomenon · 06-15-10, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

Meaningless goal, 89th minute. Do you think Brazil's defense would have been penetrated that easily if the score was 1-0? If this game is played 20 times, North Korea wins 0 times.

look, some goals may be meaningless, and also some wins may be meaningless too,
ok Brazil really good team,but this is football,and if all favourites win we all are sure rich...

coldhardfacts · 06-15-10, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by durito

If you argument is to hold up, you should be able to bet all dogs and clean up, right?

No, because there are three options in soccer betting (favorite, dog, draw).

coldhardfacts · 06-15-10, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez

Unless you've got a weird TV...use the on/off switch, or go watch American Idol

American Idol ended weeks ago. Shows what you know.

jjgold · 06-15-10, 07:40 PM

The thing is 2-0 in soccer is a blowout

There is not a huge difference between lets say Brazil and the 30th best Country

JOHON8 · 06-15-10, 08:04 PM

There is so much ignorance in this thread that I'm not even gonna bother explaining anything, seriously go watch the sports you love and stop wasting our time with your limited knowledge about soccer.

poochiecollins · 06-15-10, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

If you need the constant stimulation of first downs or a 2 point basket, then you will never have the patience to appreciate soccer. That's the nature of the game and that's why it's the most popular sport in the world, because each goal is a buildup of foiled scoring chances and suspense.

If average totals were 4-5 goals, there would still be buildup and suspense. As I asked in another thread already, tell me one other game that has so little scoring over so long a time period as futbol and is at least popular enough to where there are cash tournaments? The few reasons I've gotten so far on why presumed non-Americans like low-scoring futbol amounted to me as "because it's been that way."

forsberg21 · 06-15-10, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by JOHON8

There is so much ignorance in this thread that I'm not even gonna bother explaining anything, seriously go watch the sports you love and stop wasting our time with your limited knowledge about soccer.

Amen to this Johon.

Coldhardfacts - You said it yourself when you stated "I admit I know very little about soccer". People who "know very little about" a sport should not be able to analyze it critically. There is something a little deeper going on here, perhaps you're just jealous that soccer is the world's most popular sport while your favourite sport, possibly baseball or American football, isn't.

phenomenon · 06-15-10, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

Amen to this Johon.

Coldhardfacts - You said it yourself when you stated "I admit I know very little about soccer". People who "know very little about" a sport should not be able to analyze it critically. There is something a little deeper going on here, perhaps you're just jealous that soccer is the world's most popular sport while your favourite sport, possibly baseball or American football, isn't.

perfect answer

JogoBonito · 06-15-10, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by forsberg21

Amen to this Johon.

Coldhardfacts - You said it yourself when you stated "I admit I know very little about soccer". People who "know very little about" a sport should not be able to analyze it critically. There is something a little deeper going on here, perhaps you're just jealous that soccer is the world's most popular sport while your favourite sport, possibly baseball or American football, isn't.

nicely done forsberg

. I couldnt have explained it any better. Most guys on this forums just bet on the world cup because its a 30 day event with matches almost every day but most of you dont understand the meaning of FOOTBALL (cause "soccer" just an americanized word). the world cup for many people including me is one of the most anticipated events in our lives. WE live it, sweat it, cry of sadness, joy, etc and thats what ur missing here.

Some guys critized brazil because they didnt blowout north korea while if you analyze the match, you can see the nearly perfection in north korean lines. Look at the beautiful goals brazil had to make to penetrate that defense. And for this underdog teams, playing in a worldcup is their biggest dreams ever so theyll come all out and even die if they have to to defend their nation. Notice the korean guy crying while his anthem was playing. That passion just makes it all worth it , all the shitty scores, the surprises, the unders, etc... AND TRUST ME, world cup is just warming up, expect the last matches of the group stage to be INTENSE! and knockout round will be just amazing!!! This is the most balanced world cup ive seen!.. its anyones game!.

I encourage every1 that thinks little bout football to really try and understand this beautiful sport. Its not all bout moviing the ball forward and scoring the most goals, its waaaay more than that. and enjoy the rest of the world cup, is going to be a hell of a ride.!

Forgot to add something. I do think that VUVUZUELAS are annoying and if they ban them, you will hear the crowd singing, crying and cheering for their teams. and then ull have a better perspective of the beauty of the game

CaptainPrice · 06-15-10, 09:25 PM

i think if soccer scores were worth say 13 points it would solve tour problem.
at least at the end the score could be like 39-26 and look reasonable