Time to bet England after Altidore ankle sprain?

Shark79 · 06-03-10, 03:20 PM

With or without him ... England under Cappellos presence has shown that they are the team to beat and I dont see the US making it happen.

JOHON8 · 06-03-10, 03:32 PM

Bill can you merge this thread with the one that was opened before about the injury?

England is winning this group, even if Messi changes his nationality to the USA, Altidore injury is a threat to their 2nd place spot, it has nothing to do with England.

Dark Horse · 06-03-10, 04:20 PM

I would say the injury increased the chances of Slovenia.

Slovenia's odds to win the WC are +65500 at 5Dimes. Limit is low, but you can keep betting it. It opens up considerable middling opportunities if Slovenia makes it past the group stages.

Karayilan9 · 06-03-10, 04:25 PM

I say play Buddle, he'll tear Terry a new one

pavyracer · 06-03-10, 04:27 PM

That's like saying the Celtics will beat the Lakers because Luke Walton sprained his knee.

Socrates · 06-03-10, 04:52 PM

He scored just one goal in the entire season he played for Hull. Wasn't going to make a difference anyway.

CallMeGENO · 06-03-10, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Socrates

He scored just one goal in the entire season he played for Hull. Wasn't going to make a difference anyway.

this comment is pathetic. altidore not make a difference for usa? you know nothing about usa soccer, so shut up!

tbill11 · 06-03-10, 05:38 PM

No, that's just how bad the US squad really is this year. Our X-factor is a guy who played rather poorly throughout the entire club season on a crappy English squad. I'm American, so I have my delusions, but getting far in the WC is not one of them.

Smogs · 06-03-10, 05:51 PM

Bill - how good do you think Altidore is?

England would win this either way, his injury makes no difference with the quality of our defence

ZXCVBNM · 06-03-10, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Socrates

He scored just one goal in the entire season he played for Hull. Wasn't going to make a difference anyway.

ignorant comment

but altidore's injury doesnt affect anything, he is the least of usa's worries

Smogs · 06-03-10, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by Socrates

He scored just one goal in the entire season he played for Hull. Wasn't going to make a difference anyway.

Originally posted by CallMeGENO

this comment is pathetic. altidore not make a difference for usa? you know nothing about usa soccer, so shut up!

Originally posted by ZXCVBNM

ignorant comment

but altidore's injury doesnt affect anything, he is the least of usa's worries

Bit unfair jumping on socrates like that, how many good games has Altidore had this YEAR? I'd say 2 or less, and to top it off he ended his club season smacking Alan Hutton and threw a divvy fit

CallMeGENO · 06-03-10, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Smogs

Bit unfair jumping on socrates like that, how many good games has Altidore had this YEAR? I'd say 2 or less, and to top it off he ended his club season smacking Alan Hutton and threw a divvy fit

He has played his role in the US system very well and thats all I really care about to be honest. And that "smack" youre talking about was more like a headbutt to the face. Sorry Jozy doesn't like the ball being thrown at him.

Rooney throws a hissy fit everytime he doesn't receive a pass that he wanted played to him

danvan3000 · 06-03-10, 11:19 PM

with or without injury I'm taking England

bostonbruins · 06-03-10, 11:54 PM

If the injury doesn't cause line moves then it's insignificant as far as I'm concerned.

Smogs · 06-04-10, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by CallMeGENO

And that "smack" youre talking about was more like a headbutt to the face. Sorry Jozy doesn't like the ball being thrown at him.

Rooney throws a hissy fit everytime he doesn't receive a pass that he wanted played to him

I never said Rooney wasn't a prick

aceking · 06-04-10, 03:12 AM

who's that ?????????

Smogs · 06-04-10, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by aceking

who's that ?????????

wikkidinsane · 06-04-10, 07:42 AM

Altidore being injured, oh my word. His physical pressence will be missed and is going to cost aby chance USa has at beating England

Dark Horse · 06-04-10, 08:02 AM

From what I've seen the US has about three regular goal scorers. Donovan, Altidor, and Dempsey. If Altidor is injured, it could cost the US maybe a goal during the group stage.

GatorTD · 06-04-10, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Smogs

Bit unfair jumping on socrates like that, how many good games has Altidore had this YEAR? I'd say 2 or less, and to top it off he ended his club season smacking Alan Hutton and threw a divvy fit

Still it is an ignorant comment. A grand total of 4 Hull players scored more goals than Jozy did this year at the club level. Hull just couldnt score period. Jozy's main responsibility was to use his strength to try to hold play up top. Rememeber, he was at F'n HULL. Theres alot of good players who wouldnt be able to score with the crap they put out.

He is the best pure forward the US has and will likely be a big reason why the US has any success.

CallMeGENO · 06-04-10, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by GatorTD

Still it is an ignorant comment. A grand total of 4 Hull players scored more goals than Jozy did this year at the club level. Hull just couldnt score period. Jozy's main responsibility was to use his strength to try to hold play up top. Rememeber, he was at F'n HULL. Theres alot of good players who wouldnt be able to score with the crap they put out.

He is the best pure forward the US has and will likely be a big reason why the US has any success.

spot on

mihaita666 · 06-04-10, 10:55 AM

Just put 60 points on england ML. As soon as I get the tennis contest payout (if I do), I will add some points to that bet

Socrates · 06-04-10, 11:27 AM

You guys completely missed my point. He's decent for the USMNT, but overall, he's a player that won't affect England.

Danvan put it better then I did, while still communicating the same message.

Originally posted by danvan3000

with or without injury I'm taking England

mihaita666 · 06-04-10, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Smogs

I never said Rooney wasn't a prick

prick or not, Rooney costs more than the entire USA first eleven and that happens for a reason.

Smogs · 06-04-10, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by GatorTD

Still it is an ignorant comment. A grand total of 4 Hull players scored more goals than Jozy did this year at the club level. Hull just couldnt score period. Jozy's main responsibility was to use his strength to try to hold play up top. Rememeber, he was at F'n HULL. Theres alot of good players who wouldnt be able to score with the crap they put out.

He is the best pure forward the US has and will likely be a big reason why the US has any success.

Never answered the question, how many good games has he had at Hull? He had an awful season, whether he was at Hull or not, he was ineffective

GatorTD · 06-04-10, 04:53 PM

Just as ineffective as the rest of the club. He did not do poorly for a 20 year old on a bad club in his first premier season.

Dude did have 6 WCQ goals plus that nice one vs Spain. He's been really good, if not great for the US and we don't leave him alone to just hold up play. If he is in, the US attack is 10X better.

Btw going by your logic, Messi = Player of WC right? No questions.

Dirty Sanchez · 06-04-10, 04:58 PM

England are such underachievers on the International scene it's extremely tough to bet on them. After missing the European Cup a few years ago I realized how bad they are when the pressure is on. With Rio Ferdinand going down today for England I still think the Over is the way to go in the game. The US defense is horrible as well.