Another draw coming this Sunday in Italy - get on

INVEGA MAN · 03-25-10, 07:34 AM

this is unreal to me. are these games fixed?

Domestic · 03-25-10, 07:50 AM

Source?

diamond · 03-25-10, 09:18 AM

Dont need a source, just look at market.

diamond · 03-25-10, 03:15 PM

Bump, its a pretty local derby as well..approx 80 km between the two cities, a draw should suit both fine.

onlooker · 03-25-10, 03:19 PM

I know nothing about soccer, but if you see a draw with higher odds then normal draw odds (-106 vs +220 or something like that), it could possibly be arranged for a draw?

Thanks for the heads up.

Masu485 · 03-25-10, 03:23 PM

draw is -106 at 5Dimes. when the draw is favored, does that usually mean it ends in a draw

Masu485 · 03-25-10, 03:24 PM

i'm just scared this might be market manipulation, will only put 2 units on it

onlooker · 03-25-10, 03:25 PM

SBRbook doesn't have this game up.

onlooker · 03-25-10, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by Masu485

draw is -106 at 5Dimes. when the draw is favored, does that usually mean it ends in a draw

Look at all the other draws at 5dimes, Masu. +230 and above. Seems like this is a sign that we all should look for in the future.

Masu485 · 03-25-10, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

Look at all the other draws at 5dimes, Masu. +230 and above. Seems like this is a sign that we all should look for in the future.

i'm actually surprised 5Dimes has it up. they didnt have the last chievo draw up (maybe because the fix was more well known?), but 5Dimes still having this up scares me a bit.

diamond · 03-25-10, 03:36 PM

5dimes had the other draw open until matchday.

w3coyote · 03-25-10, 03:37 PM

many bookmakers have already taken this out of their cards, and others have slashed odds from 3.something to 1.8-1.9.

Masu485 · 03-25-10, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by diamond

5dimes had the other draw open until matchday.

nice, i guess i was too late that day. hopefully this one works out. thanks again!

onlooker · 03-25-10, 03:48 PM

Hey diamond, so when odds on a draw are that high versus the other draws, does this mean something is arranged? Usually?

What were the opening draw odds on this game sunday?

diamond · 03-25-10, 03:56 PM

You mean that low? Its much lower than the others..or we read it differently perhaps, as I use decimal odds.

I dont remember the last one, but it was like a normal draw. Normally its around +200 on draws in Italy. Thats its now around -105, doesnt mean its arranged. Its just that in Italy towards end of the season, its morally accepted to have these draws where teams help each other. For them its quite naturally, for others its very hard to believe.

rfr3sh · 03-25-10, 04:01 PM

put 1u on the draw

pitman · 03-25-10, 04:12 PM

did they have the last one on live betting? if they have this one on live betting, i would be interested in waiting till one team scores and then hitting the draw at better odds...

rfr3sh · 03-25-10, 04:19 PM

usually they dont have it live betting, I also noticed the draw for this game openend low in the first place

diamond · 03-25-10, 04:19 PM

They had it on bet365, but bet365 removed it after 10 min or so on live...they will know now

Even when a team scored in last game, the draw odds didnt change on Betfair.

pitman · 03-25-10, 04:22 PM

crazytown, them fukers

fsugolf · 03-25-10, 04:22 PM

not seeing this game up on my book

rfr3sh · 03-25-10, 04:24 PM

bet365 has it up still

Sforz · 03-25-10, 04:35 PM

last time you said this, it didn't end in a draw did it?

mdemps9190 · 03-25-10, 04:43 PM

yeah it did...and Bodog, sportbet, and betphoenix all don't have it. Whats a guy to do?

mihaita666 · 03-25-10, 04:47 PM

i dont see it at betphoenix

Masu485 · 03-25-10, 04:53 PM

pinny has the same deal as last time, with both teams as a pk yet no other scroll down options. but what's strange is that they are offering the draw also at -109... last time they dint offer the draw at all

Nyphra · 03-25-10, 05:42 PM

Modena v Piacenza is trading under 2 aswell. Even more matched than the Chievo game. I'm not going to bet on anything since it there is not much difference in odds movement when its manipulation. Not much trading chances either.

Let's hope that it is manipulation because in the end it will only be negative for us.

Nyphra · 03-25-10, 05:48 PM

Another thing I don't get. Why the hell would you bet 5k on betfair, the only result is that every single dude jumps on it, bookies cut the odds or don't offer the games anymore. Isn't it better to bet it all on some asians...

tealish · 03-25-10, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Sforz

last time you said this, it didn't end in a draw did it?

Yeah it did. 1-1.

Thanks again diamond

tealish · 03-25-10, 05:54 PM

SBRbook appears to have caught onto Chievo's mischievous ways though!

RoagBettor · 03-25-10, 06:23 PM

This match will not end in a draw, no way no how.

RoagBettor · 03-25-10, 06:39 PM

48060912-13/25/10 7:37pm$50.00$200.00Pending3/28/10 9:00am Italy Soccer 84 Parma (ITA-A) +400* vs Chievo (ITA-A) 48060912-23/25/10 7:37pm$50.00$105.50Pending3/28/10 9:00am Italy Soccer 85 Chievo (ITA-A) +211* vs Parma (ITA-A) 48060912-1 3/25/10 7:37pm $50.00 $200.00 Pending 3/28/10 9:00am Italy Soccer 84 Parma (ITA-A) +400* vs Chievo (ITA-A)
48060912-2 3/25/10 7:37pm $50.00 $105.50 Pending 3/28/10 9:00am Italy Soccer 85 Chievo (ITA-A) +211* vs Parma (ITA-A)

3cheers44 · 03-25-10, 07:57 PM

parma just pulled a fast one on milan they will ride the wave and win this one

mygooglik · 03-25-10, 08:00 PM

will sbr follow odds drop? ))