Champions League - Nov 5

[Wilforth]

Bate Borisov +300 (vs Zenit St. Petersburg)
Bate is simply the better team here. Zenit aren't the team they once were. The sportbooks just want to fool the public by installing Zenit as huge favorites.

Juventus +450 (vs Real Madrid)
The whole world will be on Real to win this contest. But Real are a very unbalanced team right now. One believes Juventus can follow in the footsteps of Roma. Roma did beat Real at the Bernabeu last year in similar circumstances as +400 underdogs. Real has become easy to score against. An upset is in the offing here. Let's go with the dog.

Fenerbahce +800 (vs Arsenal)
Nothing is easier nowadays than beating Arsenal. Every little team in England is beating them - Stokes, Hull, etc. Their offense and defense is severely depleted right now. Their most offensive players are injured - the free-scoring Adebayor and the electrifying Walcott. In defense, they'll miss the solidity, industry, and leadership of Galas. Eboue is also out. In the absence of Adebayor and Walcott, who'll score the goals? In the absence of Galas, the defense will be vulnerable.
Now on the flip side, since losing to Arsenal at home, Fenerbahce has been on a resurgence, winning two of their L3 and drawing one. They've scored a whopping 10 goals in their L3, five of these on the road. They'll be out to prove a point. They'll play with vengeance. Against a depleted and uninspiring Arsenal, Fenerbahce do have a chance to bring home the bacon.

Fenerbahce/Arsenal Over 3.5 (+135)
There's no need to explain why.

[PCash]

yea right

[nick2060]

are these serious? no offense intended

[nick2060]

juve and bate have fair shots, but fenerbache? Arsenal beat them 5-2 not long ago, now arsenals at home and their gunna lose?

[Wilforth]

juve and bate have fair shots, but fenerbache? Arsenal beat them 5-2 not long ago, now arsenals at home and their gunna lose?

Yes, Arsenal beat Fernabahce 5-2 on the road. Also remember that Barcelona did beat Basel 5-0 on the road. But what happened in the return leg yesterday? Basel held their hosts (Barcelona) to a 1-1 draw when the hosts were -1000 favorites. Who could have imagined that? In the case of Arsenal, Adebayor and Walcott who were hugely responsible for the road win won't play in this game. Plus do you know how many goals Arsenal conceded in their last home game? Four! What would have suddenly changed in the Arsenal team to stop Fenerbahce from benefiting from the "Arsenal generosity"?

Nov 4 results in support of our dog hopes:
* If not for a late Inter goal, Famagusta +550 was going to cash.
* If not for a dubious penalty to Liverpool, Atletico +500 was going to the bank.

Final note: In soccer, any team that can score, can cause an upset of any magnitude.

[Wilforth]

juve and bate have fair shots, but fenerbache? Arsenal beat them 5-2 not long ago, now arsenals at home and their gunna lose?

I agree with you that Juve have a fair shot. In the case of Bate, they have more than a "fair shot". Bate are the home team with the clearest chance of winning.
In the case of Arsenal, they're habitually disappointing against supposedly weak opposition. I can't summon the courage to bet on Arsenal in this situation. True. One chap lost $20,000 yesterday on Barcelona. I guess the same fate awaits those who'll bet on Arsenal.

[Wilforth]

are these serious? no offense intended

If you want to make money in soccer in the long term, viable dogs are the way to go. Three weeks ago, I cashed Kalmar +500 in a UEFA game. One was severely unlucky not to have cashed Famagusta +550 and Atletico +500 yesterday.

Lastly, what would you have gained yesterday if you betted Chelsea, Barcelona, Inter Milan, and Werder Bremen?

I know why you asked the question you asked but dogs now rule the soccer world.

[Dark Horse]

I think Celtic +525 has a shot against ManU.

+525 in a home game! How much of that is the ManU brand name?

[Wilforth]

I think Celtic +525 has a shot against ManU.

+525 in a home game! How much of that is the ManU brand name?

We may not be able to exactly quantify that but a significant part of that line is actually due to the ManU brand. At the end of the day, you'll have 11 Celtic players playing on home turf against 11 ManU players.
In the Champions League, Celtic have only lost one of their L11 home games. This same Celtic beat ManU at home in a Champions League game only 2 years ago and some of the players that did it will still be in the Celtic line-up. In their last road game at Everton, this same ManU were held to a 1-1 draw. In their last home game, Hull posted 3 goals against this ManU in a game that FORTUNATELY ended 4-3 in ManU's favor.
Celtic defend very well at home and ManU aren't likely to get the soft officiating calls they do get in the Premiership. If the first half of this game ends in a tie (which is very likely), the second half becomes a toss up. If Celtic takes the lead in such circumstances, I think they'll defend the lead until the end. So the game is a toss up.

[pico]

you got a shot at juventus, but they're facing a real good team. you might go no hitter for these underdogs.

Bate Borisov got lucky last time. no way they can tie again.

[Shark79]

GL Wilforth !!

Good price value.

But I do believe the dogs barked yesterday ... therefore ... its all favs today

[Wilforth]

GL Wilforth !!

Good price value.

But I do believe the dogs barked yesterday ... therefore ... its all favs today

Well, ours is to speculate but no way do all favs win today.

[nick2060]

i took +1/2 on juve n bate just cause i want some action on these games lol, so lets hope your right, although its small wagers anyway

[fiveteamer]

Kiev

[Wilforth]

Fiveteamer,

Yes, Kiev is one good game we're ignoring. On current form, Kiev are the better team. Many good players moved out of Porto during the summer and that's hurting them.

Kiev +125 is very good value.

[Euphoria38]

Man-

I've watched so much Bundesliga in the past 3 weeks that Im in love with Bayern Munich playing a Fiorentina team who cant score and lost to Siena. Now Siena isnt bad, they gave AC Milan a run for their money... but that doesnt change the fact that Fiorentina can't get goals.

On the flip side Bayern Munich is in sick form, winner of their last 5 and won 3-0 against Fiorentina at home. I see no reason why Bayern Munich doesn't dominate this game, except for the fact it is in Italy.

Bayern Munich is the best team in Germany and Miroslav Klaus gets a goal today. AND NO IM NOT FROM ****ING GERMANY.

VALUE on Bayern Munich +170~

[Masu485]

VERY good value there, for ALL of those! i'm surprised the odds are even so high! i don't even usually bet soccer, but i may jump on these.

thanks for bringing it to my attention!

[fiveteamer]

For me it was a toss up between Bayern and Kiev.

Euphoria38, Bayern is +242, not +170!

[Wilforth]

Fiorentina vs. Bayern Munich

Home advantage is the only edge Fiorentina have here. Bayern had some problems that sometimes accompany managerial changes. But they seem to have fixed that. Their problem has never been offense but defense. They'll DEFINITELY score. Bayern doesn't fail to score on the road. On the flip side, there's no guarantee that Fiorentina will score, let alone outscore Bayern. Against a low-scoring Fiorentina, Bayern appears to me the smart play.

[Shark79]

Man-

I've watched so much Bundesliga in the past 3 weeks that Im in love with Bayern Munich playing a Fiorentina team who cant score and lost to Siena. Now Siena isnt bad, they gave AC Milan a run for their money... but that doesnt change the fact that Fiorentina can't get goals.

On the flip side Bayern Munich is in sick form, winner of their last 5 and won 3-0 against Fiorentina at home. I see no reason why Bayern Munich doesn't dominate this game, except for the fact it is in Italy.

Bayern Munich is the best team in Germany and Miroslav Klaus gets a goal today. AND NO IM NOT FROM ****ING GERMANY.

VALUE on Bayern Munich +170~

The Under on this game is the bet.

[Wilforth]

I think we could add these to our plays:

Dynamo Kiev +125
Bayern Munich +180

[Euphoria38]

I am a huge fan of Bundesliga and I still think Hoffenheim and Bayern Munich is the match of the century. I really like the Nigerian players for little Hoffenheim... Obasi... does anyone know if Odemwingie plays for a professional club too?

Anyways if Bayern wins this one im buying their jersey.

[Dark Horse]

Celtic up 1-0 early. There's something almost haunting about the color of the grass under these lights. The atmosphere at this game is fantastic.

[ryanXL977]

celtic looks great
but they wont win this game, i dont think

[ZXCVBNM]

I am a huge fan of Bundesliga and I still think Hoffenheim and Bayern Munich is the match of the century. I really like the Nigerian players for little Hoffenheim... Obasi... does anyone know if Odemwingie plays for a professional club too?

Anyways if Bayern wins this one im buying their jersey.

I am in love with Hoffenheim too, now I watch whenever they are on TV.

Bayern vs Hoffenheim, I think the final score will be 8-7

As for Odemwingie here is what I found on wikipedia He played as a striker for Ligue 1 side OSC Lille, but recently after much speculation moved to Russian Premier League side Lokomotiv[1].

[Euphoria38]

Thanks ZX!

Lokomotiv Moscow eh? I believe they lost the other day to Dinamo.

Bayern has had a few opportunities but no goals. Fiorentina scored a bullshit goal in the first 11. I dont expect anymore. Bayern will come from behind. But in the Bundesliga they have some great second halfs. Should be interesting. I see no equalizers throughout the Champions right now, which tells me expect some crazy shit in the second half.

Juventus and Dynamo Kiev where the picks folks. Too bad im a ****ing idiot and combined Bayern with them =/

[Shark79]

Wil .. at least you got the Juve game

Look at my picks:

[Euphoria38]

Man-

Bayern Munich almost won folks. They had the ball for the last ten minutes of that game and had about 4 chances to score, including a chance in the 92". Wide of the goal. Damn everything seemed that way today. Draws all around.

[Dark Horse]

celtic looks great
but they wont win this game, i dont think

They didn't. Final 1-1. 'ManU not to win' cashes.

Celtic dropped back too far in 2H. They didn't leave anybody upfront, so no way to get away from ManU pressure.

[Shark79]

I only ask myself:

Why do I insist taking Chelsea and Real Madrid on Champions!!!!

[ZXCVBNM]

went 9-7-1 for tue/wed.. and this was just a practice run, tried to cap every game somehow.

[pavyracer]

It's so easy to win when you don't have money on the line.

[Shark79]

Zenit helped me big

[pico]

you got a shot at juventus, but they're facing a real good team. you might go no hitter for these underdogs.

Bate Borisov got lucky last time. no way they can tie again.

told you borisov got no chance.

[ZXCVBNM]

It's so easy to win when you don't have money on the line.

I know right.