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  • Sanity Check
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    Bill de Blasio's wife cant account for $850 million allocated to her pet project
    Bill de Blasio's wife Chirlane McCray cannot explain where $850million given to the mental health program she champions has gone, according to reports.

    In the three years it has been running, organizers at ThriveNYC have largely failed to keep records of the initiative's achievements - and data that has been collected shows it lagging well behind targets.

    Despite that, the program has been granted an even bigger budget going forward and is now on track to spend $1billion over five years.


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    Chirlane McCray, wife of New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, champions the ThriveNYC mental health program, but organizers cannot explain where its $850million budget has gone


    But over the course of two years between 2016 and 2018 the hospital screened a little over 28,000 patients and just 570 were offered help, a fraction of the 12,000 to 15,000 who were estimated to need care.

    The data also showed almost 190,000 Narcan kits were handed out to hospital where opioid use is common, but there is no evidence of how many were used.
    The site said it had tried and failed to acquire a line-item budget from Thrive, and the two budget breakdowns it had seen showed wildly different numbers.

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    The shocking figures were revealed as de Blasio himself mothballed a program which spent $800million with the aim of improving the city's 100 worst schools, which largely failed

    The data comes from a Politico report that shows those running the scheme have largely failed to measure its impact or keep track of spending.
    Thrive said it has developed a list of 417 metrics to measure how effective the program is moving forward, but asked to assess its impact so far, Politico said the data was piecemeal and showed a largely failing picture.
    For example, 29 hospitals had agreed to screen almost 78,000 new mothers for post-natal depression each year as part of the scheme.

    One, from from City Hall, showed $594million in spending, but a second, from the Independent Budget Office, showed $816milion.

    Speaking to the Post, Queens Councilman Robert Holden told the New York Post: 'I like the fact that money is going toward mental health, but when they say we're seeing a benefit in all areas, I take exception to that, because I don't see it everywhere. I'm not sure anybody does.'
    Meanwhile de Blasio announced earlier this week that he is mothballing his failed Renewal school program after spending $773million.
    The aim of the scheme was to improve 100 of New York's worst schools, but after three years of trying, just 25 of them improved enough to make it off the list.
    Meanwhile, the same number either closed or were merged with other schools while under the initiative.





    ThriveNYC, the mental health scheme fronted by Chirlane McCray, was given a budget of $850m to improve mental health care in the city, but has failed to track what the money was spent on.




    .


    Classic example of why UBI and medicare for all would never work in today's world.


    But over the course of two years between 2016 and 2018 the hospital screened a little over 28,000 patients and just 570 were offered help, a fraction of the 12,000 to 15,000 who were estimated to need care.


    Only democrats and socialists could spend $850 million dollars and only manage to help 570 people ^.
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    Scary.
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    • jt315
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      Chris thrill up his leg Matthews after the debate to Big Bird Deblasio.


      “ I believe in you tonight . I think you got in the fight “.
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        New York was his Oyster. HE BLEW IT...

        THANK GOD....
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        • dante1
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          Originally posted by Sanity Check
          Bill de Blasio's wife Chirlane McCray cannot explain where $850million given to the mental health program she champions has gone, according to reports.

          In the three years it has been running, organizers at ThriveNYC have largely failed to keep records of the initiative's achievements - and data that has been collected shows it lagging well behind targets.

          Despite that, the program has been granted an even bigger budget going forward and is now on track to spend $1billion over five years.


          +2

          Chirlane McCray, wife of New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, champions the ThriveNYC mental health program, but organizers cannot explain where its $850million budget has gone


          But over the course of two years between 2016 and 2018 the hospital screened a little over 28,000 patients and just 570 were offered help, a fraction of the 12,000 to 15,000 who were estimated to need care.

          The data also showed almost 190,000 Narcan kits were handed out to hospital where opioid use is common, but there is no evidence of how many were used.
          The site said it had tried and failed to acquire a line-item budget from Thrive, and the two budget breakdowns it had seen showed wildly different numbers.

          +2

          The shocking figures were revealed as de Blasio himself mothballed a program which spent $800million with the aim of improving the city's 100 worst schools, which largely failed

          The data comes from a Politico report that shows those running the scheme have largely failed to measure its impact or keep track of spending.
          Thrive said it has developed a list of 417 metrics to measure how effective the program is moving forward, but asked to assess its impact so far, Politico said the data was piecemeal and showed a largely failing picture.
          For example, 29 hospitals had agreed to screen almost 78,000 new mothers for post-natal depression each year as part of the scheme.

          One, from from City Hall, showed $594million in spending, but a second, from the Independent Budget Office, showed $816milion.

          Speaking to the Post, Queens Councilman Robert Holden told the New York Post: 'I like the fact that money is going toward mental health, but when they say we're seeing a benefit in all areas, I take exception to that, because I don't see it everywhere. I'm not sure anybody does.'
          Meanwhile de Blasio announced earlier this week that he is mothballing his failed Renewal school program after spending $773million.
          The aim of the scheme was to improve 100 of New York's worst schools, but after three years of trying, just 25 of them improved enough to make it off the list.
          Meanwhile, the same number either closed or were merged with other schools while under the initiative.





          ThriveNYC, the mental health scheme fronted by Chirlane McCray, was given a budget of $850m to improve mental health care in the city, but has failed to track what the money was spent on.




          .


          Classic example of why UBI and medicare for all would never work in today's world.




          Only democrats and socialists could spend $850 million dollars and only manage to help 570 people ^.




          Only capitalism can give you a pharmaceutical company willing to pay 3 Billion in compensation to the Justice Dept, for improper handling and merchandising of pharmaceuticals. Three billion without a fight. GSKline, I will make it easy for you.


          and that was when 1 B was a lot of money. Check that math out.

          Some Socialism when done properly is far better than almost pure capitalism. Ask Germany, their people pay 7.5% of their salary on tax for health care and receive nearly free emergency care and hospital care and very cheap prescriptions, prescription prices that have a cap on them. Same drugs we use in the USA.

          So if you are a German citizen and you earn the equivalent of $100,000 a year you pay $7,500 a year for Socialized medicine. My God one week in the hospital would cost more than that in the USA.
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          • dante1
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            so a German who works for 30 years at 100,000 equivalent USA would pay $225,000 for medical for basically life. And earn 3 million.



            a German who works for 30 years making 50,000 well just cut both number in half.



            now what do you think?
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              #7
              Discover the countries with the best healthcare in 2024 and learn about the key factors that make Italy, Singapore, and Iceland top the list.




              before one of the crazies tell me the German health care is poor, check it out.
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              • dante1
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                #8
                ten countries who have better healthcare than the USA and we pay who knows how much more, the numbers are probably ridiculous.


                so better healthcare and less money, also check out how many of those top 10 have some type of socialized medicine. You guys hate facts, facts come back and kick you in the teeth.
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                • MaltedHopsFrenzy
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dante1
                  Some Socialism when done properly is far better than almost pure capitalism.

                  FAIL.....
                  Just,
                  Just,
                  FAIL.....

                  #DelusionalDante
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                  • dante1
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                    #10
                    but wait I am sorry, Mr Trump promised the American people he would give them a much better health care plan than the ACA, right? I seem to remember that promise. Well, that is one, promise made and promised NOT KEPT.


                    you want some more?
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                    • dante1
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy
                      FAIL.....
                      Just,
                      Just,
                      FAIL.....

                      #DelusionalDante
                      maybe you would like to debate it? lol
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                      • MaltedHopsFrenzy
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dante1
                        ten countries who have better healthcare than the USA and we pay who knows how much more, the numbers are probably ridiculous.


                        so better healthcare and less money, also check out how many of those top 10 have some type of socialized medicine. You guys hate facts, facts come back and kick you in the teeth.
                        Yeah, what are those "ten countries" - and how's their border situation? Are there millions of "Dreamers" trying to cross their borders for that "health care"?!?!!?

                        FU## OFF WITH YOU!!!
                        YOU'RE AMERICAN, CORRECT? START LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD.....

                        #Dumba$$Dante
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                        • dante1
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy
                          FAIL.....
                          Just,
                          Just,
                          FAIL.....

                          #DelusionalDante
                          this man cannot bear the fact, well two facts. one I proved about 5 or 6 times he is a complete idiot, and two he want so very much to impress me and have my respect. Malted man, you would need to reincarnate about 100 times first, but he won't know what that means.
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                          • dante1
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                            #14
                            he didn't even read the thread


                            post number 7 you idiot.
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                            • MaltedHopsFrenzy
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dante1
                              he didn't even read the thread


                              post number 7 you idiot.


                              Isn't this thread about Bill de Blasio's wife?


                              #DelusionalDante
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                              • dante1
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy


                                Isn't this thread about Bill de Blasio's wife?


                                #DelusionalDante
                                oh, now you want to change the subject back to the thread, since again I expose you as an idiot.



                                my point malted man was to counter the comment that only "democrats and socialists...that SC made in his original thread. So again you have your thumb up you arse and don't know what the fck you are writing/talking about. I answered his comment illustrating the positives those same socialists often have over a corrupt Capitalistic state. A system so corrupt that pharmaceutical companies will pay billions in fines without even a whimper.


                                do you get it, you stupid bastard.


                                I so love when they take up arms, it is so seldom, but they try god love them they try.
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                                • dante1
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                                  #17
                                  they don't like facts, they like general comments and BS but facts, nope many of them seem to break out in hives when facts are produced.
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                                  • dante1
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                                    #18
                                    here is another fact, the USA spends the most of any country on health care, by far. And 10 countries produce a better healthcare system, and CHEAPER. If you want to know how many of those countries are a socialism/capitalism hybrid, check out post 7
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                                      • Sanity Check
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by dante1
                                        Some Socialism when done properly is far better than almost pure capitalism.


                                        Socialism is slavery. You can tell by everyone supporting socialism being unable to make sense of anything that happens without CNN or fake news to tell them what they should believe. On a mental level, they've already been enslaved. Its only a matter of time before the body follows the mind into slavery.

                                        You can't compare european or canadian healthcare to american healthcare. European and canadian food is much healthier than american food. A big part of their healthcare savings comes from decreased incidence of illness and disease via healthier diet. A big part of healthcare being unaffordable involves america's disproportionate doctor to patient ratio. Healthcare being unaffordable for many involves many facts that lowly slaves aren't allowed to know. That's why if anyone asked you specifically why US healthcare is expensive you couldn't offer an answer. Lowly slaves aren't allowed to know those types of details.

                                        To make healthcare more affordable a person must address specific reasons why its overpriced and expensive. Neither CNN nor purported experts, socialists or democrats will explain why healthcare is expensive(to keep people in slavery). They scapegoat and blame things like private health insurance that have nothing to do with healthcare being unaffordable. Then people are surprised when the government spends trillions to "fix healthcare" as they did under obamacare, and the only thing that happens is everyone ends up with a worse health insurance plan than what they had before obamcare was passed.

                                        Those who are mentally enslaved, who can only repeat things CNN says shouldn't be involved with healthcare reform, the economy or decisions which affect millions of lives. If you look around the world, everything that is fukked up is because of people blindly repeating CNN narratives. Everything that is fukked up is because of socialism and people blindly believing in governments throwing money at problems.

                                        Trump haters and those who blindly hop on bandwagons due to being illiterate on political topics are one of the biggest obstacles to progress and elevated standard of living in the world.
                                        Last edited by Sanity Check; 07-02-19, 11:39 PM.
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                                        • rkelly110
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                          Socialism is slavery. You can tell by everyone supporting socialism being unable to make sense of anything that happens without CNN or fake news to tell them what they should believe. On a mental level, they've already been enslaved. Its only a matter of time before the body follows the mind into slavery.

                                          You can't compare european or canadian healthcare to american healthcare. European and canadian food is much healthier than american food. A big part of their healthcare savings comes from decreased incidence of illness and disease via healthier diet. A big part of healthcare being unaffordable involves america's disproportionate doctor to patient ratio. Healthcare being unaffordable for many involves many facts that lowly slaves aren't allowed to know. That's why if anyone asked you specifically why US healthcare is expensive you couldn't offer an answer. Lowly slaves aren't allowed to know those types of details.

                                          To make healthcare more affordable a person must address specific reasons why its overpriced and expensive. Neither CNN nor purported experts, socialists or democrats will explain why healthcare is expensive(to keep people in slavery). They scapegoat and blame things like private health insurance that have nothing to do with healthcare being unaffordable. Then people are surprised when the government spends trillions to "fix healthcare" as they did under obamacare, and the only thing that happens is everyone ends up with a worse health insurance plan than what they had before obamcare was passed.

                                          Those who are mentally enslaved, who can only repeat things CNN says shouldn't be involved with healthcare reform, the economy or decisions which affect millions of lives. If you look around the world, everything that is fukked up is because of people blindly repeating CNN narratives. Everything that is fukked up is because of socialism and people blindly believing in governments throwing money at problems.

                                          Trump haters and those who blindly hop on bandwagons due to being illiterate on political topics are one of the biggest obstacles to progress and elevated standard of living in the world.
                                          Trump lovers you mean. The whole "conservative" movement is composed to keep things the same, limit you, make rules, usually strict like sharia law. Your whole party reduces the elevated standard of living just by their word, conserve.
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                                            #22
                                            kelly it's the Dems that are trying to crush free speech. There is no argument there..
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                                            • khicks26
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                              Socialism is slavery. You can tell by everyone supporting socialism being unable to make sense of anything that happens without CNN or fake news to tell them what they should believe. On a mental level, they've already been enslaved. Its only a matter of time before the body follows the mind into slavery.

                                              You can't compare european or canadian healthcare to american healthcare. European and canadian food is much healthier than american food. A big part of their healthcare savings comes from decreased incidence of illness and disease via healthier diet. A big part of healthcare being unaffordable involves america's disproportionate doctor to patient ratio. Healthcare being unaffordable for many involves many facts that lowly slaves aren't allowed to know. That's why if anyone asked you specifically why US healthcare is expensive you couldn't offer an answer. Lowly slaves aren't allowed to know those types of details.

                                              To make healthcare more affordable a person must address specific reasons why its overpriced and expensive. Neither CNN nor purported experts, socialists or democrats will explain why healthcare is expensive(to keep people in slavery). They scapegoat and blame things like private health insurance that have nothing to do with healthcare being unaffordable. Then people are surprised when the government spends trillions to "fix healthcare" as they did under obamacare, and the only thing that happens is everyone ends up with a worse health insurance plan than what they had before obamcare was passed.

                                              Those who are mentally enslaved, who can only repeat things CNN says shouldn't be involved with healthcare reform, the economy or decisions which affect millions of lives. If you look around the world, everything that is fukked up is because of people blindly repeating CNN narratives. Everything that is fukked up is because of socialism and people blindly believing in governments throwing money at problems.

                                              Trump haters and those who blindly hop on bandwagons due to being illiterate on political topics are one of the biggest obstacles to progress and elevated standard of living in the world.
                                              LMAO, Corporations control the food you eat, the healthcare you get, & the TV you watch.


                                              CNN socialist, LMAO. The slave is you Twisted Brain, keep on shilling for peanuts.
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                                              • khicks26
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                Socialism is slavery. You can tell by everyone supporting socialism being unable to make sense of anything that happens without CNN or fake news to tell them what they should believe. On a mental level, they've already been enslaved. Its only a matter of time before the body follows the mind into slavery.

                                                You can't compare european or canadian healthcare to american healthcare. European and canadian food is much healthier than american food. A big part of their healthcare savings comes from decreased incidence of illness and disease via healthier diet. A big part of healthcare being unaffordable involves america's disproportionate doctor to patient ratio. Healthcare being unaffordable for many involves many facts that lowly slaves aren't allowed to know. That's why if anyone asked you specifically why US healthcare is expensive you couldn't offer an answer. Lowly slaves aren't allowed to know those types of details.

                                                To make healthcare more affordable a person must address specific reasons why its overpriced and expensive. Neither CNN nor purported experts, socialists or democrats will explain why healthcare is expensive(to keep people in slavery). They scapegoat and blame things like private health insurance that have nothing to do with healthcare being unaffordable. Then people are surprised when the government spends trillions to "fix healthcare" as they did under obamacare, and the only thing that happens is everyone ends up with a worse health insurance plan than what they had before obamcare was passed.

                                                Those who are mentally enslaved, who can only repeat things CNN says shouldn't be involved with healthcare reform, the economy or decisions which affect millions of lives. If you look around the world, everything that is fukked up is because of people blindly repeating CNN narratives. Everything that is fukked up is because of socialism and people blindly believing in governments throwing money at problems.

                                                Trump haters and those who blindly hop on bandwagons due to being illiterate on political topics are one of the biggest obstacles to progress and elevated standard of living in the world.
                                                If I cared what you think, I would watch Fox News.
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                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                                  LMAO, Corporations control the food you eat, the healthcare you get, & the TV you watch.


                                                  CNN socialist, LMAO. The slave is you Twisted Brain, keep on shilling for peanuts.
                                                  You're being indoctrinated into an anti-capitalist stance. To suit the agenda against walmart, amazon, google, microsoft. They want you to hate your own domestic business, to destroy it for them.

                                                  Paving the way for china to takeover.

                                                  As you raise taxes on amazon and google to make them less competitive in global markets. China is heavily subsidizing and giving unfair advantages to their own tech sector to raise their competitiveness.

                                                  Tell me again which one of us is making the bad choices here.
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                                                  • khicks26
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                    You're being indoctrinated into an anti-capitalist stance. To suit the agenda against walmart, amazon, google, microsoft. They want you to hate your own domestic business, to destroy it for them.

                                                    Paving the way for china to takeover.

                                                    As you raise taxes on amazon and google to make them less competitive in global markets. China is heavily subsidizing and giving unfair advantages to their own tech sector to raise their competitiveness.

                                                    Tell me again which one of us is making the bad choices here.
                                                    U.S. Corporations moved Capital to China, cutting the throats of American workers. Walmart & Amazon are distributors of the cheap products that come from China. That's what is destroying domestic business.

                                                    The takeover happened years ago. You are talking out your ass all fuked up on Alex Jones Penis Pills.

                                                    You are the one shilling for these bad choices, so you tell me smart guy.
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                                                    • khicks26
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                      You're being indoctrinated into an anti-capitalist stance. To suit the agenda against walmart, amazon, google, microsoft. They want you to hate your own domestic business, to destroy it for them.

                                                      Paving the way for china to takeover.

                                                      As you raise taxes on amazon and google to make them less competitive in global markets. China is heavily subsidizing and giving unfair advantages to their own tech sector to raise their competitiveness.

                                                      Tell me again which one of us is making the bad choices here.
                                                      Why don't you go get me more of this corporate sponsored garbage you call news.

                                                      I think your to stupid to know your a shill.
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                                                      • Sanity Check
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                                        Why don't you go get me more of this corporate sponsored garbage you call news.

                                                        I think your to stupid to know your a shill.
                                                        Well, maybe you're *not allowed* to think about the things I mentioned.

                                                        Similar to how underage kids can't legally buy alcohol.

                                                        The topics I mentioned are above your station?
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                                                        • khicks26
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                          Well, maybe you're *not allowed* to think about the things I mentioned.

                                                          Similar to how underage kids can't legally buy alcohol.

                                                          The topics I mentioned are above your station?
                                                          Yeah I didn't think your weasel ass would address the other post. So you deflect with stupid shit, just like the so call news you bring us.
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                                                          • khicks26
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                            Well, maybe you're *not allowed* to think about the things I mentioned.

                                                            Similar to how underage kids can't legally buy alcohol.

                                                            The topics I mentioned are above your station?
                                                            All we did was wait in front of the store & ask adults to buy for us. Worked most times.
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                                                            • khicks26
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                              Well, maybe you're *not allowed* to think about the things I mentioned.

                                                              Similar to how underage kids can't legally buy alcohol.

                                                              The topics I mentioned are above your station?
                                                              Your station smells like a sewer.
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                                                              • Sanity Check
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                U.S. Corporations moved Capital to China, cutting the throats of American workers. Walmart & Amazon are distributors of the cheap products that come from China. That's what is destroying domestic business.

                                                                The takeover happened years ago. You are talking out your ass all fuked up on Alex Jones Penis Pills.

                                                                You are the one shilling for these bad choices, so you tell me smart guy.
                                                                Fake news published articles claiming that using china as a labor hub could "prevent" an alliance between russia and china. Virtually identical to fake news pushing a false agenda claiming war against iraq would "prevent" al qaeda and saddam hussein from joining forces.

                                                                The US government offered tax dollars for corporations to move operations and outsource jobs from north america to china to incentivize it.

                                                                How is it that corporations take all the blame?
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                                                                • khicks26
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                  Fake news published articles claiming that using china as a labor hub could prevent an alliance between russia and china.

                                                                  The US government offered tax dollars for corporations to move operations and outsource jobs from north america to china to incentivize it.

                                                                  How is it that corporations take all the blame?
                                                                  They moved because they could pay workers 2 dollars an hour. That's how unfettered capitalism works. The US government had nothing to do with that.

                                                                  Funny you have no problem with Trumps Tax Cuts that incentivize companies to outsource.
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by khicks26
                                                                    They moved because they could pay workers 2 dollars an hour. That's how unfettered capitalism works. The US government had nothing to do with that.

                                                                    Funny you have no problem with Trumps Tax Cuts that incentivize companies to outsource.
                                                                    There was a political motive for US corporations moving to china. The theory was it would divide russia and china and prevent them from being close allies. There were news stories out there documenting how the US government paid cash to partially cover the cost of corporations outsourcing jobs from america to china. The US government spent good money for millions of jobs to be moved out of the country.

                                                                    Trump's tax cuts incentivize investment in the domestic USA. Tax hikes would incentivize the opposite. Those are the basics.
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                                                                    • khicks26
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                      There was a political motive for US corporations moving to china. The theory was it would divide russia and china and prevent them from being close allies. There were news stories out there documenting how the US government paid cash to partially cover the cost of corporations outsourcing jobs from america to china. The US government spent good money for millions of jobs to be moved out of the country.

                                                                      Trump's tax cuts incentivize investment in the domestic USA. Tax hikes would incentivize the opposite. Those are the basics.
                                                                      OK maybe. But that is not how offshoring started, but yes I could see a government that is bought & paid for by corporations doing this.

                                                                      That doesn't mean you go out & shill for corporations. Your all twisted up inside & don't know what is what.

                                                                      No the tax cuts incentivize corporations to hide more money overseas. Who do you think wrote the bill? LMAO. God your dumb.
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