USC is the rightful owner of #1 ranking

ryanXL977 · 11-01-08, 11:26 PM

ut beat ou, they both have one loss
ut above ou

pavyracer · 11-01-08, 11:27 PM

Texas can't drop below Oklahoma. Florida will leapfrog Oklahoma. USC will not advance. Texas Tech will leapfrog Texas.

Polling is a mess. #1 and #2 undeafeted teams will lose against any of the 3-6 teams on neutral field.

apk2k6 · 11-01-08, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

1. TT
2. Alabama
3. PSU
4. USC
5. Oklahoma

Dbldown11 · 11-01-08, 11:31 PM

I just can't believe there are people out there that still think USC is that good. They have a good defense but their offense isnt much. Washington and Washington St. blow ass. Not to mention the fact that USC beat Arizona by 7.....and team that lost to New Mexico, and USC was manhandled by Oregon St.

Florida, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Alabama, Oklahoma St are all better than USC without question....The only highly ranked team that USC would beat is Penn St. I bet TCU would even give USC a run for their money

Dbldown11 · 11-01-08, 11:33 PM

haha i agree with your sentiments on that top 5 APK HAHAHA. USC IS NOT a top 5 team. and texas tech is not #1. They beat Texas in their home stadium that was absolutely nuts tonight by the way.

yisman · 11-01-08, 11:38 PM

Florida should be in anyone's top 5.

I.R.B · 11-02-08, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Since their loss to Oregon St...

5-0 winning by a combined 214-20.

3 Shut outs.

They will not lose another game the rest of the year, including the BCS Championship.

125 of those points where agianst two of the worse teams in Div 1A football...

VegasDave · 11-02-08, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by treece

If USC ever schedules someone worth mentioning then they can be #1.

All three out of conference games (Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame) were very respectable choices, so this is a pretty ridiculous post.

I believe that talent-wise, USC could give anyone in the nation a great game. Unfortunately for them, the conference they are in fell apart in a hurry, and one blemish on the record throws them out completely. And it happened. So be it.

LT Profits · 11-02-08, 08:01 AM

USC has ZERO chance to play in the BCS Championship. None.

They simply need too much to happen with the teams in front of them.

LT Profits · 11-02-08, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Texas can't drop below Oklahoma. Florida will leapfrog Oklahoma. USC will not advance. Texas Tech will leapfrog Texas.

Polling is a mess. #1 and #2 undeafeted teams will lose against any of the 3-6 teams on neutral field.

Texas WILL drop below Oklahoma this week. I am not saying that is fair, but it is what it is.

daneblazer · 11-02-08, 09:01 AM

Wouldnt it be funny if USC worked its way back to #1 and then Oregon State won out and won the Pac 10?

pavyracer · 11-02-08, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Texas WILL drop below Oklahoma this week. I am not saying that is fair, but it is what it is.

LT,

You are older than me and I respect your opinion. Who invented polling? Why does is matter when you lose? A team that lost to Texas handily can never be ranked higher than them assuming both have one loss.

It my understanding now that the Bowl committee likes the controversy more than fairness so people can have something to talk about at the water cooler.

VegasDave · 11-02-08, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

I just can't believe there are people out there that still think USC is that good. They have a good defense but their offense isnt much. Washington and Washington St. blow ass. Not to mention the fact that USC beat Arizona by 7.....and team that lost to New Mexico, and USC was manhandled by Oregon St.

Florida, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Alabama, Oklahoma St are all better than USC without question....The only highly ranked team that USC would beat is Penn St. I bet TCU would even give USC a run for their money

You are severely underrating USC, but this is a perfectly standard thing to do. They don't have a "good" defense, they have a flat out amazing defense. I emphasize again that they can't be blamed for the lack of quality in their conference.

I didn't realize that losing by 6 is a manhandling...

Does USC deserve to be anywhere close to the national championship game? No.

Should they be ranked as highly as they are? No.

But that just due to strength of schedule, not USC's talent. USC can compete with anyone in the country, and stating that 6 teams are better than them "without question" is pretty stupid in my opinion.

HAPPY BOY · 11-02-08, 09:20 AM

Would love to see a Florida/usc bowl game!

LT Profits · 11-02-08, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

LT,

You are older than me and I respect your opinion. Who invented polling? Why does is matter when you lose? A team that lost to Texas handily can never be ranked higher than them assuming both have one loss.

It my understanding now that the Bowl committee likes the controversy more than fairness so people can have something to talk about at the water cooler.

Which is the exact reason for my "not saying it is fair" comment. Oklahoma has blown everyone out since that loss and Texas had a close call vs Okie State before losing last night. Who ever said the pollsters were logical (i.e., always ranking the head-to-head winner ahead of a tied team)?

onlooker · 11-02-08, 09:26 AM

1. Alabama
2. Penn State
3. Texas Tech
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma

jackpot269 · 11-02-08, 09:52 AM

Im not sure that Oklahoma St is not the best team in the Big 12.

hhsilver · 11-02-08, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Come on, Penn St needed a miracle fumble & game ending INT by that idiot freshman QB to beat Ohio St. Or else they'd be toast too.

Miracle fumble??????? It was a fumble caused by a great play by the PSU safety . He clearly knocked the ball out. Hardly a miracle - just an excellent play by the tackler.

And without the int , there's no reason to believe a score would be certain.

Every close game has many "what if" plays. When your team loses , it's a fluke or a miracle play. When they win, well, they were the better team.

VegasDave · 11-02-08, 10:36 AM

Well said hh.

daggerkobe · 11-02-08, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by hhsilver

Miracle fumble??????? It was a fumble caused by a great play by the PSU safety . He clearly knocked the ball out. Hardly a miracle - just an excellent play by the tackler.

And without the int , there's no reason to believe a score would be certain.

Every close game has many "what if" plays. When your team loses , it's a fluke or a miracle play. When they win, well, they were the better team.

The fact that he took it OUTSIDE THE TACKLES when the play wasn't designed for it and the fact that PSU needed that fumble to salvage the season tells you what they're all about.

The same team USC crushed by 32 pts.

OVER-RATED.

They will be KILLED by any team they play in the bowls.

THEGREAT30 · 11-02-08, 10:54 AM

Alabama
Texas Tech
Penn State
Oklahoma
USC
Florida
Texas

BestPlay2day · 11-02-08, 11:04 AM

It hurts USC that the PAC 10 blows this year. Florida and Oklahoma are better than USC. Penn St will be undefeated so they will be one team in the BCS Championship, Alabama has a good shot as well going undefeated.

mtneer1212 · 11-02-08, 11:35 AM

USC isn't even the best of the one loss teams -- Florida, Oklahoma, Texas are way ahead in the pecking order. And I'm not saying Penn State deserves it, but there is no way they put any team with a loss ahead of a JoePa undefeated team. It will NEVER happen.