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  • MonkeyF0cker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-12-07
    • 12144

    #36
    Originally posted by BETFIRSTCLASS
    RE--READ

    WE PAID OUT WELL OVER 27-K in PHILA straight wagers faster than ANY BOOOK

    LESS THAN 30-sec(s) after called we had it graded EASY WINNER for PHILA BETTOR(s)

    YES LESS THAN 30-secs

    see EOG post to confirm
    "we could have called in NO-ACTION"

    What exactly is there to re-read? Do you have the rules posted on your site or not?
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    • Patrick McIrish
      SBR MVP
      • 09-15-05
      • 2864

      #37
      Mike, no sweat man, just threw me off when you said you could have determined the game was no action. Maybe I read it wrong. It sucks, I know everyone in town had the Phillies, like you I also wanted to see the game completed as I needed the Rays. I still think they might win this game, I'd start Price tomorrow and he has the tools to shut them down. Anyway I think this forum is pretty sharp for the most part, they know bull when they read it. Like I said earlier, every book even the A+ guys have been run through the ringer at one time or another. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, sounds like someone with an agenda more so than a legit problem. The longer you stay open the more you will get players like Mr NBA to defend you if you guys are running a tight ship, that's always been a good indication on these forums when a book is doing good things. A guy comes with a complaint and is shouted down even before the book shows up to address it, seen it many times at other sites, no stronger endorsement than that IMO. Like I told you before it's not easy going the post up routine, seen many credit shops fail miserably when changing directions like this. I wish you well, this is just one of many new things you will go through when you start out.
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      • AK
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-10-05
        • 814

        #38
        According to SBR

        8/29/2008 01:23 AM
        betfirstclass (SBR rating D) turnkey host provider identified as BetBones (SBR rating F) operator. The BetBones group scammed players under different brands at the end of 2007. BetBones ran a handicapper scam just before closing, stiffing hopeful victims as well as its employees. betfirstclass.com owner states that he was unaware of the history of no-pay books on the platform. Previous scams also included F rated sportsbooks BetWGN, SunsetSports, Atlantisbet and DunHillCasino.
        8/24/2008 11:27 PM
        betfirstclass Warning
        The unrated sportsbook is one of 11 betting websites on its platform. They share the same IP address. Nine of those sites are registered under a proxy service. The other two, NetBet777.com and BetDragon.net have the same whois registration as one of the biggest bookmaker thieves in 2008, Atlantisbets (SBR rating F). The new sportsbook, which has started an advertising campaign with at least one forum website, has copied the about us page and terms of service from SBG Global (SBR rating D-). SBG customer service states they are unrelated to BFC. BFC uses an unknown brand of software, also used by BetCascade (SBR rating F). SBR will ask FirstClass management to comment before initiating rating coverage.

        I have also confirmed they are also betsportsinc.com and other scam sportsbooks with pending complaints out at therx.

        It's Highly recommended Viewers continue to wager at SBR B books or higher.
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        • Mudcat
          Restricted User
          • 07-21-05
          • 9287

          #39
          Originally posted by BETFIRSTCLASS
          MUD

          I'm not asking ANYONE to say great things about "US"

          Just asking them NOT to post BS Lies

          I am completely with you on that. All I ever want is good clean information.

          It may seem like I am against you sometime, but I'm not. If I keep saying how start-ups are high risk, it's because that's a true statement of my experience.

          But I am 100% against any kind of trumped up BS.
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          • InTheHole
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-28-08
            • 15243

            #40
            If this is not aa valid complaint...the thread should be trashed or moved IMHO.
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            • Mr. NBA
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-08-06
              • 524

              #41
              Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
              Mike, no sweat man, just threw me off when you said you could have determined the game was no action. Maybe I read it wrong. It sucks, I know everyone in town had the Phillies, like you I also wanted to see the game completed as I needed the Rays. I still think they might win this game, I'd start Price tomorrow and he has the tools to shut them down. Anyway I think this forum is pretty sharp for the most part, they know bull when they read it. Like I said earlier, every book even the A+ guys have been run through the ringer at one time or another. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, sounds like someone with an agenda more so than a legit problem. The longer you stay open the more you will get players like Mr NBA to defend you if you guys are running a tight ship, that's always been a good indication on these forums when a book is doing good things. A guy comes with a complaint and is shouted down even before the book shows up to address it, seen it many times at other sites, no stronger endorsement than that IMO. Like I told you before it's not easy going the post up routine, seen many credit shops fail miserably when changing directions like this. I wish you well, this is just one of many new things you will go through when you start out.

              Pretty much a spot on post right there IMHO.
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              • Bread
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-16-08
                • 23726

                #42
                I like BFC Michael. Grade-A entertainment.
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                • raydog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-07-07
                  • 6984

                  #43
                  i have seen some lowdown shiity things from AK in the past. the guy is total scum and really thinks that he has some pull in the gambling world. you dont pal. you are a total joke of a gambler with a joke of a forum and now it appears as if you are creating ghosts and making up bullshiit about a book that doesnt want anything to do with you. they told you to fuk off and you got your little feelings hurt. get used to it dude, everyone in the industry thinks you are a complete joke and couldnt give a shiit about what you have to say. you care waaaaayyyy tooo much about this thread and are replying waaaaayyyy too much for op to not be a ghost of yours. you are a real peice of shiit for starting this crap. no doubt this bullshiit is from AK.
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                  • Mudcat
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-21-05
                    • 9287

                    #44
                    When AK was banned from the site for going to books pretending to be an SBR employee, the announcement was it would be permanent. Apparently not.

                    I'm guessing barrywoode hasn't filed a formal complaint yet.
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                    • AK
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 814

                      #45
                      There is to many other legit sportsbooks on the web. There is some benefit to play at betfirstclass however risk vs reward is a very important issue here.
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                      • bigboydan
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 55420

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Mudcat
                        I'm guessing barrywoode hasn't filed a formal complaint yet.

                        I can only tell you what I know at this time Mudcat. Which is that I didn't receive the dispute assignment, however that doesn't mean he never filed one though.
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                        • SSLP
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-29-08
                          • 5232

                          #47
                          BBD i am playing there but sadly about to bust out after last night , if i somehow manage to get it up to get a payout i will inform
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                          • bigboydan
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 55420

                            #48
                            Originally posted by SSLP
                            BBD i am playing there but sadly about to bust out after last night , if i somehow manage to get it up to get a payout i will inform
                            I would appreciate that sir. However, I thought Mike extended you credit at his establishment.
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                            • SSLP
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-29-08
                              • 5232

                              #49
                              I actually posted up for a good bonus offer BBD , it wasnt much but i was hoping i could put the hurt on them with my soccer but i like nfl too much haha
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                              • AK
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 814

                                #50
                                Originally posted by bigboydan
                                I would appreciate that sir. However, I thought Mike extended you credit at his establishment.
                                Good Catch Dan.
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                                • Doug
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 6324

                                  #51
                                  It 27k supposed to be a lot for a book to have on a WS game ?

                                  It sounds like very little to me.
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                                  • Mudcat
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 07-21-05
                                    • 9287

                                    #52
                                    barrywoode, are you okay? The forum is worried about you.
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                                    • no chance in hell
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-29-06
                                      • 156

                                      #53
                                      I call complete Bullshit on this post. I have been treated great by Michael and everyone there. Just more forum slandering IMO

                                      The $250 deposit claim by this 'poster' is BS too, $500 is their minimum. That's what I send.

                                      There should be some proof by the poster and this thread should be moved!!
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                                      • barrywoode
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 10-27-08
                                        • 2

                                        #54
                                        Hello All

                                        Maybe thats why they took the $250 and kept hounding me for more. They never mentioned the minimum at sign up.

                                        Regardless I got a few calls today from some pissed off guys asking why I brought it to the boards and I am a dick and so forth. So really the money aint worth this now.


                                        They say they will send and I will get a tracking number by end of week so I will let everyone know.

                                        As far as filing a complaint it was my first night here and still really dont even no how too. Thats why i made a post. I would have liked to keep it more quiet.

                                        Anyway not sure why Michael was making it sound like such a tiny amount. That has me scratching my head as I see when offers his promos he makes people roll it 10 to 15 times. Seems like an awful lot if that small amount is peanuts.

                                        Anyway hopefully we will get this straight.
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                                        • Mudcat
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 07-21-05
                                          • 9287

                                          #55
                                          Hopefully. The link for the complaint form is in post #2 of this thread. Dan put it there for you. It's still there if you need it. All you do is fill it in.

                                          It would have been interesting to follow how that went but I don't think anyone was really expecting it.
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                                          • SBR_John
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-12-05
                                            • 16471

                                            #56
                                            AK could you please stay out of BFC threads for a while? It simply clutters them up.

                                            Its unlikely this complaint is legit. If it was the poster would contact us.

                                            Anyone can say they are owed.

                                            I've said before that there are about 150 sportsbooks that I would send money to before i would this one. But that doesn't change the fact that this is most likely a hoax to smear this book's name.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #57
                                              I know a few guys that play at Bet First Class and are happy. I have never tried them.
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                                              • flyingillini
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 41219

                                                #58
                                                gamecities.com
                                                המוסד‎
                                                המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                • tacomax
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 9619

                                                  #59
                                                  I don't think Mike is a first class employee.
                                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                  Originally posted by curious
                                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                  • Mudcat
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 07-21-05
                                                    • 9287

                                                    #60
                                                    To this day, uneasy memories of the Barrywoode Affair keeps me up at night, tossing and turning. I just hope he's alright and hasn't been driven by despair to anything too extreme.
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                                                    • tacomax
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 9619

                                                      #61
                                                      Rumour has it that 5dimes Tony saw this thread and immediately make Mike head of customer services.
                                                      Originally posted by pags11
                                                      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                      Originally posted by curious
                                                      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                        • 12144

                                                        #62
                                                        He just has a big bullseye on his forehead for this sort of thing. By far the worst PR person I've ever seen...
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