Phucking Selig should have consulted with Vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats who rules this phucking world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mtneer1212
SBR MVP
06-22-08
4993
#37
A baseball game becomes official for money line wagering purposes after 4 1/2 innings if home team is winning or 5 innings if visiting team is winning.
If a game is cancelled or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning (unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called).
Money will be refunded if the home team ties the game and the game is then suspended.
Events do not carry over to the following day (unless otherwise specified).
For run lines and game totals (over/under), a baseball game becomes official after 8 1/2 innings if home team is winning, or 9 innings if visiting team is winning.
If a game goes past 9 innings and is not completed (i.e. suspended, curfew, rain delay, etc.), there is action on game total and run line wagers.
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cards52
SBR Rookie
10-01-08
27
#38
All live action bets on exchanges have been cancelled due to game suspension. Unfortunately, there is no way out of losing on the Rays tonight. It will be interesting to see what is offered on the completion of this game. Maybe we will have the opportunity to lose(or win) twice on the same game.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#39
Actually, Balfour is "starting" for Rays.
It will be tough for books to post line without knowing Phillies "starter". They could put up an "All Plays have Action" line I suppose.
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big joe 1212
SBR Posting Legend
06-01-08
19380
#40
Creditwagering has different rules if anyone would like to protest!
Read the bold print carefully!
It is covered herein! Nothing on baseball times/innings!
Las Vegas rules, regulations, payoffs and wager types apply where not coveredherein. All sporting events must be played on date and site scheduled unless otherwise specified. Sporting events postponed by more than 12 hours and or rescheduled, will constitute "No Action", and all money will be credited accordingly. All bets must be made and accepted, before the start of the game/event wagered. Any bet placed or received after the start of the game/event wagered, will be void. Management reserves the right to limit the maximum amount wagered, prior to acceptance of any bet. Customers are not permitted to open multiple accounts in order to bypass the limits imposed by the system. If multiple accounts are used then all bets will be void. In the event that money is erroneously credited to a customer's account, it is incumbent upon the customer to notify CreditWagering.com of the aforesaid error without delay. Any winnings realized after the error, whether directly or indirectly subsequent to the error but prior to notification of CreditWagering.com, shall be void. CreditWagering.com does not recognize suspended games, protests, scoring amendments, result reversals and overturned decisions for wagering purposes. In order for a bet to be valid, a customer must receive a bet number confirming from CreditWagering.com that the bet has been accepted. This will be via a confirmation message that will appear on your screen. Once accepted, bets cannot be cancelled or amended in any way, either by the customer or by Management. Every effort will be made to ensure that all information available on the Internet site is accurate. However, if an error is made in the prices or conditions published on-line, we reserve the right to correct any mistakes and to settle any bets already laid at the correct price.
Winners and losers are official after:
Football - NCAA and NFL - 55 minutes of play
Basketball - NBA - 43 minutes of play
Basketball - NCAA - 35 minutes of play
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big joe 1212
SBR Posting Legend
06-01-08
19380
#41
Yes, I did have the Rays with CW. But will not protest if they pay the Phillie people!
Did everyone get paid with Phillies at CW?
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#42
the rays are so ****ing lucky
this ****ing sucks for philly
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#43
Originally posted by big joe 1212
Creditwagering has different rules if anyone would like to protest!
Read the bold print carefully!
It is covered herein! Nothing on baseball times/innings!
Las Vegas rules, regulations, payoffs and wager types apply where not coveredherein. All sporting events must be played on date and site scheduled unless otherwise specified. Sporting events postponed by more than 12 hours and or rescheduled, will constitute "No Action", and all money will be credited accordingly. All bets must be made and accepted, before the start of the game/event wagered. Any bet placed or received after the start of the game/event wagered, will be void. Management reserves the right to limit the maximum amount wagered, prior to acceptance of any bet. Customers are not permitted to open multiple accounts in order to bypass the limits imposed by the system. If multiple accounts are used then all bets will be void. In the event that money is erroneously credited to a customer's account, it is incumbent upon the customer to notify CreditWagering.com of the aforesaid error without delay. Any winnings realized after the error, whether directly or indirectly subsequent to the error but prior to notification of CreditWagering.com, shall be void. CreditWagering.com does not recognize suspended games, protests, scoring amendments, result reversals and overturned decisions for wagering purposes. In order for a bet to be valid, a customer must receive a bet number confirming from CreditWagering.com that the bet has been accepted. This will be via a confirmation message that will appear on your screen. Once accepted, bets cannot be cancelled or amended in any way, either by the customer or by Management. Every effort will be made to ensure that all information available on the Internet site is accurate. However, if an error is made in the prices or conditions published on-line, we reserve the right to correct any mistakes and to settle any bets already laid at the correct price.
Winners and losers are official after:
Football - NCAA and NFL - 55 minutes of play
Basketball - NBA - 43 minutes of play
Basketball - NCAA - 35 minutes of play
Rule #4. The result of a game is official after five innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4.5 innings. If a game is called or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called. Monies will be refunded if the home team ties the game and it is then suspended. Events will not carry over to the following day unless otherwise specified.
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#44
Per Matchbook: Any bets placed after the game started are refunded.
Rule #4. The result of a game is official after five innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4.5 innings. If a game is called or suspended, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning unless the home team scores to tie, or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning, in which case the winner is determined by the score at the time the game is called. Monies will be refunded if the home team ties the game and it is then suspended. Events will not carry over to the following day unless otherwise specified.
Oh! Couldnt find that! Thanks for the info! Glad I went small with them tonight or I'd be really pissed! I wish they just stopped it before they scored, cause Selig said he would have kept it as a rain delay, then all bets still would have action. Had Rays +1.5 also, got screwed on that also (canceled)
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gm_mets85
SBR Hustler
06-06-08
56
#46
What happens for matchbook if you had the phillys before the game started. Not whiloe the game was going on....
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gm_mets85
SBR Hustler
06-06-08
56
#47
For games suspended and rescheduled to a later date, moneyline markets are graded based on the score at the end of the last full inning, should play be halted in the top half of the inning with the home team trailing.
Thats off of matchbook's website. Thats means Phillys win but they have it as pending still. SO that shoudl be a win. I seriously hope so.
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#48
well i wont my phils bet which is awesome
but i want the phils to win the series
fk
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#49
Originally posted by gm_mets85
What happens for matchbook if you had the phillys before the game started. Not whiloe the game was going on....
WINNER
Only live in-game wagers are cancelled.
However, I am sure they will have live wagering when the game resumes, so there will be more opportunities.
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JerseyRob
SBR High Roller
08-01-08
144
#50
Originally posted by daggerkobe
Rays backers got hosed.
I am glad I stayed away cause I'm always on the wrong side of a rainout.
I had Yanks and Cubs when they took leads in top of inning only to still lose cause rain returned.
Kind of random question but who is in your avatar?
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gm_mets85
SBR Hustler
06-06-08
56
#51
Well I need phillys so thats good. they just havent graded it yet.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#52
Originally posted by LT Profits
Phillies WIN on the Money Line because for betting purposes only, the score revets to the last completed inning.
All other bets (Run Lines, Totals, Props) are refunds.
No bets for Game 5 will carry over to tomorrow.
Series bets will be settled normally at end of series.
thanks for the info, I was about to post a thread asking what was up.
I just saw my book credited me with a win on my phil/tenn parlay but canceled my under bet. Now I know its not a mistake
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smitch124
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-08
12566
#53
Haha I had a scalp 1/2 on Philly before the game the other half on TB in live betting...
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daggerkobe
SBR Posting Legend
03-25-08
10744
#54
Originally posted by JerseyRob
Kind of random question but who is in your avatar?
Only the sexiest woman alive....
J.A.
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BigBrownman
SBR Hustler
07-16-08
51
#55
my question... when they start the game back up, since kazmir has been taken out of the pitching and hammels was still in, will hammels be able to pitch the last few innings?? hows that all work, i see it as a huge advantage to philly if thats how it pans out,
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smitch124
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-08
12566
#56
Originally posted by BigBrownman
my question... when they start the game back up, since kazmir has been taken out of the pitching and hammels was still in, will hammels be able to pitch the last few innings?? hows that all work, i see it as a huge advantage to philly if thats how it pans out,
No after pitching that many innings a starting pitcher will not be able to physically pitch the next day, should be bullpens all around.
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ReggieC
SBR Rookie
10-28-08
2
#57
Matchbook is going to have some problems. Here is their rule.
"For games suspended and rescheduled to a later date, moneyline markets are graded based on the score at the end of the last full inning, should play be halted in the top half of the inning with the home team trailing."
It wasn't in the top half of the inning and the home team wasn't trailing. They graded my TB bet a loss.
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BigBrownman
SBR Hustler
07-16-08
51
#58
Originally posted by smitch124
No after pitching that many innings a starting pitcher will not be able to physically pitch the next day, should be bullpens all around.
yeah i guess so, i just thought since there was a possibility that he would have started the 7th inning if play was to continue that after a nights rest up he would b able to finish, espically since if they win this game all over red rover, phillys win the world series. i just thought since hes there best pitcher they might do it.
but i live on the other side of the world, dont know all that much about it...
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#59
Originally posted by smitch124
Haha I had a scalp 1/2 on Philly before the game the other half on TB in live betting...
Lucky bastard!
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#60
Originally posted by BigBrownman
my question... when they start the game back up, since kazmir has been taken out of the pitching and hammels was still in, will hammels be able to pitch the last few innings?? hows that all work, i see it as a huge advantage to philly if thats how it pans out,
No for the reasons smitch mentioned, and Phillies are now -160 with Action bets only (No Listing Pitchers).
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#61
Originally posted by ReggieC
Matchbook is going to have some problems. Here is their rule.
"For games suspended and rescheduled to a later date, moneyline markets are graded based on the score at the end of the last full inning, should play be halted in the top half of the inning with the home team trailing."
It wasn't in the top half of the inning and the home team wasn't trailing. They graded my TB bet a loss.
They graded it properly, although that wording of the rule certainly sucks. Technically, it was still the top half of the innings since no pithcers were thrown in the bottom half, and the rule should have read with the home team trailing OR TIED.
Then again, I am pretty sure there is a clause somewhere that when in doubt, Matchbook uses the Vegas standard, so they are covered.
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JoshW
SBR MVP
08-10-05
3431
#62
Wild, but what can you do. This rain his us a couple days ago, and it rained for three days straight. Hopefully they can get the game in.
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Bread
SBR Posting Legend
03-16-08
23726
#63
I wonder what will happen with player vs player bets for entire series. Will players' hits from last night count towards total? Hmmmmmmmm.
What a mess.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82875
#64
This was an act of God to screw offshore gambling bettors. Karma is a bitch.
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big joe 1212
SBR Posting Legend
06-01-08
19380
#65
I think Vegas should change the rules for the postseason games, since they will continue these games the next day and not some other month like the regular season does.
These rules were made before baseball enacted the suspended game rule.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#66
Originally posted by Bread
I wonder what will happen with player vs player bets for entire series. Will players' hits from last night count towards total? Hmmmmmmmm.
What a mess.
Yes, series bets stand. Since game was suspended, stats from last night count since thiere is no advantage gained, as it will still be a normal nine-inning game over multiple days.
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JerseyRob
SBR High Roller
08-01-08
144
#67
Originally posted by daggerkobe
Only the sexiest woman alive....
J.A.
That is some quality camel toe.
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Stumpage
SBR MVP
09-21-05
2906
#68
Interesting.....I logged onto my Pinnacle account, expecting to see that my live bet on the game (TB +1 1/2) would have been cancelled, but it's still listed as pending. Sent Pinnacle an email just to make sure, and they confirm that the bet is still active and will be graded once the game finally concludes.
Wasn't expecting that, but like pretty much everybody else I've never been in this situation before.....
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ReggieC
SBR Rookie
10-28-08
2
#69
I understand Matchbook graded it correctly but their rule is very vague. I sent them an e-mail just to get their view and wished I had gotten a better reply.
Not that it matters, but once the third out was made anything that happens next is considered the bottom of the inning so they were no longer in the top half of the inning.
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skrtelfan
SBR MVP
10-09-08
1913
#70
I was about to post the same thing about Matchbook. While I know that by normal Vegas rules PHI ML bets are winners and TB ML are losers, their rules state something differently. By their stated rules, the TB ML bets should be pushes.