Does USC put up 80 this week?

fiveteamer · 10-27-08, 11:27 AM

84-0

Final score.

gm2022 · 10-27-08, 11:30 AM

Yea after scoring 17pts, think they need to pad some stats. We know Wash wont score!

I cant wait for wash vs wash st gonna be a slug fest!

jjgold · 10-27-08, 12:04 PM

USC not going anywhere in BCS

Overrated with lousy /weak schedule

DeluxeLiner · 10-27-08, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

USC not going anywhere in BCS

Overrated with lousy /weak schedule

Rose Bowl?

AMBlai01 · 10-27-08, 12:57 PM

Rose Bowl against Minnesota....wouldn't that be a joke......

Panic · 10-27-08, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

USC not going anywhere in BCS

Overrated with lousy /weak schedule

Look at Penn St. They squeeze by Ohio St with a very fortunate fumble by the Buckeyes. Penn St will get killed if they play the top team from either the Big 12 or the Sec.

gm2022 · 10-27-08, 01:10 PM

Penn st beats Or St, USC loses to Or st. Even if Penn st ends the season with a loss, thats enough for me to have Penn St ranked higher than USC!

Panic · 10-27-08, 01:16 PM

Penn St deserves to be ranked higher than USC...you are right, gm. IMO, though, I think Penn St is overrated. They were lucky to beat Ohio St., they were in a tie game with Michigan midway through the 3rd quarter, and only beat Illinois by 14...only beat Purdue by 14. If they play whoever comes out of the Big 12 or SEC, they are toast.

teaserpleaser · 10-27-08, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by gm2022

Penn st beats Or St, USC loses to Or st. Even if Penn st ends the season with a loss, thats enough for me to have Penn St ranked higher than USC!

You really think penn state could beat USC? I think even in Happy Valley USC wins that game.

AMBlai01 · 10-27-08, 01:22 PM

SEC is really not what everyone thinks this year either. The SEC is down a little bit and no one wants to admit it. There is some great defense but no offense at all. Do we know how good Alabama is yet? I don't think we really do. They have struggled against a couple very average teams.

teaserpleaser · 10-27-08, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

SEC is really not what everyone thinks this year either. The SEC is down a little bit and no one wants to admit it. There is some great defense but no offense at all. Do we know how good Alabama is yet? I don't think we really do. They have struggled against a couple very average teams.

Hope in Bowl season we can watch at least one of the Big-12 offenses get ahold of one of the "Great" SEC defenses... Texas Tech would drop 40 on somebody oklahoma,mizzou,and Texas probably 50

Panic · 10-27-08, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by AMBlai01

SEC is really not what everyone thinks this year either. The SEC is down a little bit and no one wants to admit it. There is some great defense but no offense at all. Do we know how good Alabama is yet? I don't think we really do. They have struggled against a couple very average teams.

Florida is the team I picked to win it all. They had one hiccup and lost by 1 point. Now they are back on track. If they beat Georgia and win the SEC, they should get to the big dance. Penn St. doesnt play near the schedule Florida does. Florida has LSU, Georgia, Florida St, and most likely Alabama(title game) Penn St Schedule doesnt get near that.

gm2022 · 10-27-08, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

You really think penn state could beat USC? I think even in Happy Valley USC wins that game.

I agree with you on that, but we will never know!

rm18 · 10-27-08, 01:27 PM

They could not even put 20 up against Arizona, I know the question is not serious but I don't expect them to cover.

Not saying that the line is off, but it looks real funny to see Stanford -30.5

Panic · 10-27-08, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

Hope in Bowl season we can watch at least one of the Big-12 offenses get ahold of one of the "Great" SEC defenses... Texas Tech would drop 40 on somebody oklahoma,mizzou,and Texas probably 50

Same can be said the other way. No defense in the Big 12. Florida would drop 50 on them as well.

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by gm2022

I agree with you on that, but we will never know!

It won't be Happy Valley, but Penn State WILL face USC...in the Rose Bowl.

BCS title game will be SEC Champ vs. Big 12 Champ, just as it should be.

gm2022 · 10-27-08, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by rm18

They could not even put 20 up against Arizona, I know the question is not serious but I don't expect them to cover.

Not saying that the line is off, but it looks real funny to see Stanford -30.5

I would have belived USC would not make a bowl game before Standford was favored by 30pts in a game!:

hoopster42 · 10-27-08, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

It won't be Happy Valley, but Penn State WILL face USC...in the Rose Bowl.

BCS title game will be SEC Champ vs. Big 12 Champ, just as it should be.

not if penn st goes undefeated and either the sec or big 12 champ has a loss

i will be damn near SHOCKED if the big-12 and sec champs both go undefeated and end up 13-0 the night of december 6th

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by hoopster42

not if penn st goes undefeated and either the sec or big 12 champ has a loss

i will be damn near SHOCKED if the big-12 and sec champs both go undefeated and end up 13-0 the night of december 6th

Alabama or Texas would obviously be a given if they win out, but a one-loss Florida, Georgia or Oklahoma team should get in ahead of Penn State.

gm2022 · 10-27-08, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Alabama or Texas would obviously be a given if they win out, but a one-loss Florida, Georgia or Oklahoma team should get in ahead of Penn State.

LT as much as I agree with you, with Paterno and company Penn St would kill someone if that happens!

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 01:45 PM

I should add that the five teams I just mentioned are the only ones that should get in ahead of an undefeated Penn State. If someone esle upsets in the SEC/Big 12 Championships (LSU, Missouri, Texas Tech), then I would take Penn State over those teams.

teaserpleaser · 10-27-08, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Panic

Same can be said the other way. No defense in the Big 12. Florida would drop 50 on them as well.

Florida can score with anybody with the speed they have i agree. But the offenses in the SEC are bad outside of Georgia and Florida. The SECs best defenses that ive seen are Vandy and South Carolina both shaky offenses. mizzou's defense is terrible but oklahoma st, Texas, and oklahomas defenses arent all that bad i just think the passing games are that advanced. i hope we can see some of these matchups

Panic · 10-27-08, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by teaserpleaser

Florida can score with anybody with the speed they have i agree. But the offenses in the SEC are bad outside of Georgia and Florida. The SECs best defenses that ive seen are Vandy and South Carolina both shaky offenses. mizzou's defense is terrible but oklahoma st, Texas, and oklahomas defenses arent all that bad i just think the passing games are that advanced. i hope we can see some of these matchups

Me too. My dream matchup would be Texas v. Florida.

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by gm2022

LT as much as I agree with you, with Paterno and company Penn St would kill someone if that happens!

JoPa will have no say in the matter. If he doesn't like it, let him schecule some SEC or Big 12 teams next year, because playing in the Big Ten automatically brings anyone's SOS down.

hoopster42 · 10-27-08, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

a one-loss Florida, Georgia or Oklahoma team should get in ahead of Penn State.

will not happen if penn state goes undefeated

i GUARANTEE IT

going undefeated in ANY BCS conference in this day and age of college parity is impressive + voters feelings of loyalty towards joepa gets him the ESPN/USA Today vote which tips the BCS scale in his favor

remember, it is 1/3 computer, 1/3 harris poll, and 1/3 ESPN/USA Today poll and I GUARANTEE the last poll would have JoePa and the Nittany Lions at #1 or #2 if they undefeated + Bama or Texas loses

this is why penn state is #3 right now

georgia, florida, ou, etc, all with 1 loss yet BEHIND penn st

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 02:34 PM

But those three teams would have to win out to finish with one loss, which would be good enough to leapfrog Penn State based on SOS alone.

Doc JS · 10-27-08, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

But those three teams would have to win out to finish with one loss, which would be good enough to leapfrog Penn State based on SOS alone.

I disagree with you LT...

If Texas or Alabama stubs their toes and Penn State goes undefeated, they've (Penn State) punched their ticket to the National Championship game.

The polls, which are like 2/3 of the BCS, will move Penn State to at least second and the SOS of 1 loss SEC/Big 12 teams will not be enough to overcome that.

Doc

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Doc JS

I disagree with you LT...

If Texas or Alabama stubs their toes and Penn State goes undefeated, they've (Penn State) punched their ticket to the National Championship game.

The polls, which are like 2/3 of the BCS, will move Penn State to at least second and the SOS of 1 loss SEC/Big 12 teams will not be enough to overcome that.

Doc

No because either Florida or Georgia would jump Penn State by winning out.

Doc JS · 10-27-08, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

No because either Florida or Georgia would jump Penn State by winning out.

LT,
As long as PSU stays undefeated, the voters are not going to move a 1-loss Florida or Georgia in front of them. They're just not...

I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's what I would do. I'm just telling ya', it's not going to happen...

Doc

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 04:02 PM

Yes they will, just like they moved a two-loss LSU team up the final week last year.

Doc JS · 10-27-08, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Yes they will, just like they moved a two-loss LSU team up the final week last year.

LT,
Reasonable people can agree to disagree and that's what we're going to have to do here...

They didn't move a 2-loss LSU team up over an UNDEFEATED team from a major BCS conference.

It's just not going to happen...

Although I would be willing to discuss a small side wager on such an outcome. PM me with your offer...

Doc

pavyracer · 10-27-08, 04:27 PM

I agree with LT. If Georgia or Florida end their seasons with 1 loss only they automatically play for the national title.

Why? A one loss Georgia means they beat Florida and Alabama in SEC championship game or a one loss Florida means they beat Georgia and Alabama in the SEC championship game. If Alabama ends up with one loss but beats Florida or Georgia in SEC championship game it goes to BCS title game.

I just can't find any scenarios that does not involve an SEC team in the BCS championship game. This is based on strength of schedule. Penn St strength of schedule is 103 out of 120 teams in the nation.

Doc JS · 10-27-08, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I agree with LT. If Georgia or Florida end their seasons with 1 loss only they automatically play for the national title.

Why? A one loss Georgia means they beat Florida and Alabama in SEC championship game or a one loss Florida means they beat Georgia and Alabama in the SEC championship game. If Alabama ends up with one loss but beats Florida or Georgia in SEC championship game it goes to BCS title game.

I just can't find any scenarios that does not involve an SEC team in the BCS championship game. This is based on strength of schedule. Penn St strength of schedule is 103 out of 120 teams in the nation.

Pavy,
I've been wrong before. So we won't be breaking any new ground for me if I'm wrong about this...

As I said earlier in this thread, the polls are like 2/3 of the BCS...the polls are not going to move a one loss team ahead of an undefeated Penn State team. They're just not...

Alabama or Texas loses a game, an undefeated Penn State team plays for the National Championship.

Now, I will extend the same offer to you for a small side bet that I extended to LT...

Doc

LT Profits · 10-27-08, 05:04 PM

Doc,

They moved LSU up over some team(s) that also won their Championship Games or that didn't have one, meaning they were idle that week. There is no Big Ten Championship Game, so SEC and Big 12 winners will be fresher in voters' minds.