Do not understand 5dimes soccer lines

[YorkHunt]

For instance they have nottingham forest -.5 -101 but then the moneyline is +106.


Isnt -.5 and ml essentially the same thing?

team has to win by 1 to win the wager anyways so why are the spreads different

[imzdeals]

same thing, just take one with better odds

[TheCalculator]

Don't complain. Just take advantage.

[Pew Pew]

YorkCunt yooooou stoooopid

[hotelis]

sometimes there are props like over 2.25, 2.5 or 2.75 goals. lol

[HoulihansTX]

Aren't spreads and ML's two completely different bets.

Spread goes through the duration of OT, and penalty kicks.

ML only through regulation or 90min +extra time.

???

[YorkHunt]

Thats what im trying to figure out. Does anyone know?

[shaunovery]

No all books offer the same all bets graded after 90 mins + Added time

Extra time doesn't count for soccer matches

[accuscoresucks]

example team a plays team b final score is 2-2 on a match with no given points
your moneline wager loses while you
spread wager pushes

[benandjerry]

example team a plays team b final score is 2-2 on a match with no given points
your moneline wager loses while you
spread wager pushes

think you forgot to include IF the spread is PK, any other line and its obviously not a push, and the PK odds will never be the same as the 3 way ML (1X2)

[FindTheLock]

example team a plays team b final score is 2-2 on a match with no given points
your moneline wager loses while you
spread wager pushes

this is incorrect on a spread of -.5 which the OP was asking about.

[accuscoresucks]

i mentioned on a line with no points[pick]

[FindTheLock]

i mentioned on a line with no points[pick]

he is asking about a spread where he is laying points though, and the answer to his question is there is no difference. 5Dimes often offers different lines for whatever reason on the ML and -.5 spread.

[accuscoresucks]

atleast he shold know the diffrence now

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Team	Handicap	Odds
Arsenal	-0, -0.5	-110 (1.91)
Leeds	+0, +0.5	-110 (1.91)

Betting on Arsenal

• Arsenal win: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (-0 and -0.5)
• Arsenal draw: you lose half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half loses)
• Arsenal lose: your bet loses as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Betting on Leeds

• Leeds win: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (+0 and +0.5)
• Leeds draw: you win half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half wins)
• Leeds lose: your bet loses, as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Team	Handicap	Odds
Arsenal	-0.5, -1	-110 (1.91)
Leeds	+0.5, +1	-110 (1.91)

Betting on Arsenal

• Arsenal win by 2 goals or more: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (-0.5 and -1)
• Arsenal win by 1 goal: you win half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half wins)
• Arsenal draw or lose: your bet loses as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Betting on Leeds

• Leeds win or draw: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (+0.5 and +1)
• Leeds lose by 1 goal: you lose half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half loses)
• Leeds lose by 2 goals or more: your bet loses, as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Team	Handicap	Odds
Arsenal	-1, -1.5	-110 (1.91)
Leeds	+1, +1.5	-110 (1.91)

Betting on Arsenal

• Arsenal win by 2 goals or more: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (-1 and -1.5)
• Arsenal win by 1 goal: you lose half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half loses)
• Arsenal draw or lose: your bet loses as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Betting on Leeds

• Leeds win or draw: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (+1 and +1.5)
• Leeds lose by 1 goal: you win half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half wins)
• Leeds lose by 2 goals or more: your bet loses, as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Team	Handicap	Odds
Arsenal	-1.5, -2	-110 (1.91)
Leeds	+1.5, +2	-110 (1.91)

Betting on Arsenal

• Arsenal win by 3 goals or more: you bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (-1.5 and -2)
• Arsenal win by 2 goals: you win half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half wins)
• Arsenal win by 1 goal, draw or lose: you bet loses as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Betting on Leeds

• Leeds win, draw or lose by 1 goal: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (+1.5 and +2)
• Leeds lose by 2 goals: you lose half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half loses)
• Leeds lose by 3 goals or more: your bet loses, as both sides fail to cover their handicap

Team	Handicap	Odds
Arsenal	-2, -2.5	-110 (1.91)
Leeds	+2, +2.5	-110 (1.91)

Betting on Arsenal

• Arsenal win by 3 goals or more: you bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (-2 and -2.5)
• Arsenal win by 2 goals: you lose half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half loses)
• Arsenal win by 1 goal, draw or lose: your bet loses as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

Betting on Leeds

• Leeds win, draw or lose by 1 goal: your bet wins, as both halves cover their respective handicaps (+2 and +2.5)
• Leeds lose by 2 goals: you win half your bet (half the bet ends in a "push," while the other half wins)
• Leeds lose by 3 goals or more: your bet loses, as both sides fail to cover their handicaps

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[Kaabee]

this has nothing to do with soccer.

i've seen this on other sports on a few sites when they have a drop down menu that lets you pick the spread. the pk line and the moneyline often don't match. obviously just choose the best one.

[silvap]

Moneyline and pk lines dont match because they are very different bets - a draw/ties gets your bet back on the pk and you lose the wager if you took the moneyline - which will always pay better than the Pk line - its riskier.

As for the moneyline vs the -0,5 bet, they are the same thing, the reason they'll sometimes be a couple points difference in price is some adjustment by the bookie when money comes in on the other side of the bet. Just pick the best price when they are different, because they are the exact same bet.

[silvap]

Hotelis, beware that over 2.25, 2,5 and 2,75 goals are all different bets. Essentially, when you bet over 2.25 goals, you are making a dual bet on 2 and 2.5 goals - half you bet on each. Say you bet 100 dolars on over 2.25. Then, you'll have 50 dolars on over 2 goals and 50 on over 2,5. Meaning, if the match ends with two goals, you push half your bet and lose the other half, so you get 50 dolars back. 2.75 works the same, half your wager goes to over 2,5 and the other half to over 3 - so 2 goals in the game and you loose the whole bet, 3 goals you win half and 4 or more and you win the full bet.

[Kaabee]

Silvap im talking about sports like nfl where the pk line and ml dont match.

[accuscoresucks]

Silvap im talking about sports like nfl where the pk line and ml dont match.

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[easyliving]

If you don't know exactly what each bet means then you shouldn't be betting soccer. -.5 and side betting is the same thing. Also Extratime and Penalties if used do not matter in any of these bets unless stated differently. all bets are 90 min+injury time. Also if you do not understand asian handicap then stay away from the 2.25 goal total or the -.75 spreads.

[swordsandtequila]

Silvap is correct. It's my understanding that the book makes more profit off of 3-way betting (win, lose, draw) than on spread betting and this is reflected in the small price difference (-.5 vs. ml), although at times they are the same. Just go with the better price.

[nycyellow9]

No wonder so many people hate soccer on betting forums, cause they are absolute ******* idiots who don't read the rules then are surprised when their bets lose!

Not to threadstarter since he asked the question, but to some of you who cluelessly replied.

Basically the reason -.5 is different is because they have to calibrate it with the opposite +.5 line. Whereas the ML line on the three-way are the purer odds. That's what I've always thought I've known at least.

[BigBurk]

Silvap is correct. It's my understanding that the book makes more profit off of 3-way betting (win, lose, draw) than on spread betting and this is reflected in the small price difference (-.5 vs. ml), although at times they are the same. Just go with the better price.

^^ This. And also silvap are spot on.

[hotelis]

Hotelis, beware that over 2.25, 2,5 and 2,75 goals are all different bets. Essentially, when you bet over 2.25 goals, you are making a dual bet on 2 and 2.5 goals - half you bet on each. Say you bet 100 dolars on over 2.25. Then, you'll have 50 dolars on over 2 goals and 50 on over 2,5. Meaning, if the match ends with two goals, you push half your bet and lose the other half, so you get 50 dolars back. 2.75 works the same, half your wager goes to over 2,5 and the other half to over 3 - so 2 goals in the game and you loose the whole bet, 3 goals you win half and 4 or more and you win the full bet.

thanks silvap. i really thought they were pointless same bets

[silvap]

you're welcome sir - that's what this forum should be about - helping newcomers and experienced betters alike making good, profitable decisions and not trashtalking, trolling and generally acting retarted morons like so many threads around here...

best of luck my friend