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  • Ghenghis Kahn
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #1
    instead of spending hours capping baseball...
    i'm thinking about just fading houston and milwacky then tailing the red hot a's for the rest of the season.

    anyone think this will be profitable?
  • nrok2118
    SBR MVP
    • 02-10-12
    • 1182

    #2
    I just started fading Houston the other day. Probably gonna martingale losses, maybe some filtering but dont see them winning more than a few games in a row. They are bad enough that luck couldnt get them more then 3-4 in a row.
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    • InTheDrink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-23-09
      • 23983

      #3
      Sick system
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      • Ghenghis Kahn
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-02-12
        • 19734

        #4
        i think there's more value in fading milwacky though. they are often favored. houston not so much.
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        • HoulihansTX
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-12-09
          • 30566

          #5
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          • borednaz
            SBR MVP
            • 08-28-10
            • 3809

            #6
            I think Houston is probably the single most profitable fade for the rest of the season. That or the Yankees. Because they have like 5-6 left to win the entire rest of the season. They are often pretty big chalk so if you can avoid them in Hitters parks you can pretty safely cash.
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            • pattymayo
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-19-09
              • 10221

              #7
              This is a system I'd like to track. Fade teams from here on out, as records will balance out.

              For instance: Yanks are 59-39, they have 64 games left to play.

              If they play .500 ball the rest of the way and go 32-32, they will finish the season 91-71. I think most of us expect the Yankees to win more than 91, but lets face it, they won't win 101+ (no team probably will) that leaves about a 6-8 game window with games we'd expect the Yankees to win.. so maybe they go 37-27 the rest of the way, finishing at 96-66

              Yankees aren't the best example, but take a look at some of the top teams around the league-- a lot of them who find themselves 15+ games over .500 at this moment will more than likely play .500 ball the rest of the way. Lot of fading opportunities there.

              Does this make sense?
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              • convick
                SBR MVP
                • 11-03-11
                • 3954

                #8
                Originally posted by borednaz
                I think Houston is probably the single most profitable fade for the rest of the season. That or the Yankees. Because they have like 5-6 left to win the entire rest of the season. They are often pretty big chalk so if you can avoid them in Hitters parks you can pretty safely cash.
                Fade the Astros by taking the other team on the runline. Of their last 10 losses, 9 have been by 2+ runs. A quick glance at their losses before the all-star break also show a high percentage of losses by multiple runs.
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                • blackeyeshamus
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-19-11
                  • 6632

                  #9
                  sounds like a pretty f@#kin' good idea.
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                  • King Mayan
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 21326

                    #10
                    Hours???

                    I cover my eyes and point. Winners left and right.

                    That's all I need.
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                    • yahoonino
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-10-07
                      • 2651

                      #11
                      go under on miami and tampa,,,all year and you will make a lot of money
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                      • BuddyBear
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 7233

                        #12
                        None of that system and martingale stuff works. Believe me it does not. Everyone and their brother has tried it at some point in their gambling career. Eventually the market will catch up (and it already has for Houston) that in the long run you will basically lose fading them each game.

                        The single best way remains the most obvious: Handicap the game.
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                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 19734

                          #13
                          are you sure the market caught up with houston?
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                          • Ace_of_Spades
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-14-09
                            • 13518

                            #14
                            Probably should have started fading Houston a while ago. Missed the boat on this one myself.
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                            • face
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-31-11
                              • 14740

                              #15
                              Only astros pitcher to be careful of is harrell
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                              • Ace_of_Spades
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-14-09
                                • 13518

                                #16
                                Originally posted by King Mayan
                                Hours???

                                I cover my eyes and point. Winners left and right.

                                That's all I need.
                                You're to busy injecting steroids into your ass.
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                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 19734

                                  #17
                                  going with...

                                  pitt -141
                                  washington +123
                                  oakland -101
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                                  • Cuse0323
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 30169

                                    #18
                                    Best for your sanity to just stare at a wall for the normal hours you would cap then never watch baseball and consider that money you would have lost as a bonus.
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                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 19734

                                      #19
                                      **** melo, he's a ball hoggin douche.
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                                      • Cuse0323
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 30169

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                        **** melo, he's a ball hoggin douche.
                                        Damn Wasn't hating on ya. I just think that's the most profitable thing to do with baseball.
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                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 19734

                                          #21
                                          pal i know you weren't hating on me. it was just a random rant. i just don't like melo.
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                                          • JMon
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-11-09
                                            • 9800

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                            None of that system and martingale stuff works. Believe me it does not. Everyone and their brother has tried it at some point in their gambling career. Eventually the market will catch up (and it already has for Houston) that in the long run you will basically lose fading them each game.

                                            The single best way remains the most obvious: Handicap the game.
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                                            • Cuse0323
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-09-09
                                              • 30169

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                              pal i know you weren't hating on me. it was just a random rant. i just don't like melo.
                                              gotcha, best of luck with your plays.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65644

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                i'm thinking about just fading houston and milwacky then tailing the red hot a's for the rest of the season.

                                                anyone think this will be profitable?
                                                OK, starting with tonight's games, let's track Houston and the Brewers right here in this thread.

                                                <small>Washington Nationals at Milwaukee Brewers</small>
                                                Fri 7/27 959 Washington Nationals R Detwiler - L <input id="editx" name="S1_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altS1_16" name="altS1_16" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">+1½ -190</option><option value="1">+2½ -310</option><option value="4">+1 -131</option></select> <input id="editx" name="M1_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> +121 Listed <input id="editx" name="L1_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altL1_16" name="altL1_16" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">o8½ +105</option><option value="1">o8 -115</option><option value="2">o9 +137</option><option value="3">o7½ -132</option><option value="4">o9½ +160</option></select>
                                                8:10PM 960 Milwaukee Brewers M Fiers - R <input id="editx" name="S2_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altS2_16" name="altS2_16" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">-1½ +165</option><option value="1">-2½ +255</option><option value="4">-1 +111</option></select> <input id="editx" name="M2_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> -131 Listed <input id="editx" name="L2_16" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altL2_16" name="altL2_16" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">u8½ -125</option><option value="1">u8 -105</option><option value="2">u9 -157</option><option value="3">u7½ +112</option><option value="4">u9½ -185</option></select>

                                                <small>Pittsburgh Pirates at Houston Astros</small>
                                                Fri 7/27 957 Pittsburgh Pirates J Karstens - R <input id="editx" name="S1_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altS1_11" name="altS1_11" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">-1½ +105</option><option value="1">-2½ +168</option><option value="4">-1 -124</option></select> <input id="editx" name="M1_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> -150 Listed <input id="editx" name="L1_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altL1_11" name="altL1_11" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">o8½ -110</option><option value="1">o8 -130</option><option value="2">o9 +117</option><option value="3">o7½ -145</option><option value="4">o9½ +142</option></select>
                                                8:05PM 958 Houston Astros J Lyles - R <input id="editx" name="S2_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altS2_11" name="altS2_11" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">+1½ -125</option><option value="1">+2½ -195</option><option value="4">+1 +104</option></select> <input id="editx" name="M2_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> +140 Listed <input id="editx" name="L2_11" size="4" maxlength="5" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "> <select id="altL2_11" name="altL2_11" style="font-size: 1em; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); "><option value="0" selected="">u8½ -110</option><option value="1">u8 +110</option><option value="2">u9 -137</option><option value="3">u7½ +125</option><option value="4">u9½ -162</option></select>
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                                                • ridims
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-15-10
                                                  • 3863

                                                  #25
                                                  lyles isn't so bad at home. pirates rocked him recently when the astros were in pittsburgh.

                                                  karstens has a great record against houston but his road record is not great.

                                                  ump favours pittsburgh tonight
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                                                  • ronzer
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-31-10
                                                    • 1580

                                                    #26
                                                    add COL fade? they are worse than the brewers.
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                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 19734

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                      going with...

                                                      pitt -141
                                                      washington +123
                                                      oakland -101
                                                      looked like a disastrous 0-3 going into the 9th but houston and baltimore came through. milwacky is a frustrating team for me, i tail them they blow big leads, i fade them and they shutout the team i'm on. i'll try one more time fading them tomorrow. let's see what happens. if that doesn't work, i might drop milwacky and include colorado as the above poster mentioned...

                                                      day 1:

                                                      2-1 +1.00 units
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                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 19734

                                                        #28
                                                        for tomorrow, going with

                                                        pitt -167
                                                        washington -117
                                                        oakland +107
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                                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 19734

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                          for tomorrow, going with

                                                          pitt -167
                                                          washington -117
                                                          oakland +107
                                                          day 2:

                                                          3-0 +3.07 units

                                                          total:

                                                          5-1 +4.07 units
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 19734

                                                            #30
                                                            for tomorrow...

                                                            pitt -144
                                                            washington -140
                                                            oakland +111
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 19734

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                              for tomorrow...

                                                              pitt -144
                                                              washington -140
                                                              oakland +111
                                                              day 3:

                                                              1-2 -1.44

                                                              total:

                                                              6-3 +2.63
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                                                              • Smutbucket
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-14-08
                                                                • 3996

                                                                #32
                                                                keep up the good info. ghengis
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                                                                • PRIMO99
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-21-12
                                                                  • 110

                                                                  #33
                                                                  nice call face

                                                                  harrell is a gamer
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                                                                  • Up and Up
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 03-27-11
                                                                    • 97

                                                                    #34
                                                                    so now what do you do since hou is playing mil? what a horrible series this is going to be...
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                                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 19734

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Up and Up
                                                                      so now what do you do since hou is playing mil? what a horrible series this is going to be...
                                                                      they cancel each other out.

                                                                      for today...

                                                                      oakland +120
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