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  • Bcatswin
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    • 12-21-10
    • 13931

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    Penn St. Fine...
    The NCAA will fine Penn State at least $30 million and perhaps as much as $60 million for its involvement in the Jerry Sandusky scandal, industry sources told CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy.
    The record fine will go toward an endowment for children's causes, sources said.
    "This is a fine like no fine before," an industry source told CBSSports.com.
    CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd has reported Penn State will face "significant penalties that could severely damage the football program's ability to compete" when the NCAA announces sanctions against the football program at a 9 a.m. news conference Monday.
    To put the fine in perspective, Penn State's athletic department had $116 million in revenue for the 2010-11 school year, the most recent data available according to figures from the U.S. Department of Education's Equity in Athletics.


    A source told CBS News correspondent Armen Keteyian that Penn State will suffer "unprecedented" punishment for its collective failure to report Sandusky, recently convicted on 45 counts of sexual abuse, to the proper authorities.
    "I've never seen anything like it," the source told Keteyian, indicating that both the football program and the school itself would face sanctions.
    Per Dodd, a person with knowledge of the process said there is a way to impact Penn State's competitive ability in football without applying the so-called “death penalty.” That term could be mere semantics by the time the NCAA sanctions are announced according to a source. Penn State, the source said, may prefer the death penalty.
    A source confirmed for CBSSports.com that there are indications the penalties could be so unique they would be different than any previously applied by the NCAA. They could last beyond one season.
    David Jones of the Patriot-News reported that regardless of the severity of the sanctions, "they will not be appealed or substantively challenged." According to Jones, the university is "desirous of a positive relationship with the NCAA in the future" and won't jeopardize that relationship with an appeal.
    The NCAA announced the 9 a.m. press conference in a statement Sunday morning, one saying the organization would be detailing the “corrective and punitive actions” taken against Penn State. Both Emmert and Ed Ray, Oregon State president and the NCAA Executive Committee Chair, will be present. That suggests that the committee itself may have taken the action outside of the formal investigative process.
    Critics of the NCAA penalizing Penn State have said the association has no jurisdiction in this matter, one that emerges from criminal action like Sandusky's conviction on 45 counts of sexual abuse.
    Emmert has repeatedly raised the possibility of NCAA sanctions for Penn State, however, and in the wake of the Freeh Report's account of the program's failures to stop Sandusky, would not rule out the use of the death penalty.
    "This is completely different than an impermissible benefits scandal like (what) happened at SMU, or anything else we've dealt with. This is as systemic a cultural problem as it is a football problem. There have been people that said this wasn't a football scandal," Emmert told PBS. "Well, it was more than a football scandal, much more than a football scandal. It was that but much more. And we'll have to figure out exactly what the right penalties are. I don't know that past precedent makes particularly good sense in this case, because it's really an unprecedented problem."
    Yahoo! Sports has reported that Emmert will be deciding on the sanctions personally, via "a special provision allowing such a step if he receives approval from the NCAA's board of directors." In lieu of the usual NCAA investigation, Emmert will be citing the Freeh report as "actionable evidence."
    Current NCAA rules limit the death penalty to colleges already on probation that commit another major violation. But NCAA leaders have indicated in recent months they are willing to use harsher penalties for the worst offenses. That includes postseason and TV bans, which haven't been used extensively since the 1980s.
    Emmert told Penn State in November that the organization would be examining the "exercise of institutional control" within the athletic department, and said it was clear that "deceitful and dishonest behavior" could be considered a violation of ethics rules. So, too, could a failure to exhibit moral values.
    Bob Williams, the NCAA's vice president of communications, said after the Freeh report was released that Penn State needed to answer "four key questions, concerning compliance with institutional control and ethics policies."
    Likely of particular interest to the NCAA were the report's conclusions that the school had "decentralized and uneven" oversight of compliance issues - laws, regulations, policies and procedures.
    "Certain departments monitored their own compliance issues with very limited resources," the report found. Ensuring compliance with the federal Clery Act, which requires the reporting of crimes, was handled by someone with "minimal time."
    "One of the most challenging tasks confronting the university," the report added, "is an open, honest and thorough examination of the culture that underlies the failure of Penn State's most powerful leaders to respond appropriately to Sandusky's crimes."
    Penn State President Rodney Erickson said after the report that the school was "in much better position to respond" to the NCAA"s request.
  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

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    • muldoon
      SBR MVP
      • 01-04-10
      • 4397

      #3
      NCAA is acting like the hollywood star that gets busted for DUI and possession.

      Quickly sign up for rehab and a church before it goes to court. No Larry King interviews this time.
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      • InTheDrink
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-23-09
        • 23983

        #4
        Yeah that's a drop in the bucket compared to the upcoming lawsuits
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        • Bcatswin
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          • 12-21-10
          • 13931

          #5
          Originally posted by muldoon
          NCAA is acting like the hollywood star that gets busted for DUI and possession.

          Quickly sign up for rehab and a church before it goes to court. No Larry King interviews this time.
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          • Maxmillion
            SBR MVP
            • 05-18-10
            • 2642

            #6
            Originally posted by InTheDrink
            Yeah that's a drop in the bucket compared to the upcoming lawsuits
            I know, I dont know how the football program absorbs that, especially with no one giving cash anymore.
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            • Br0nxer
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-25-11
              • 13665

              #7
              Originally posted by InTheDrink
              Yeah that's a drop in the bucket compared to the upcoming lawsuits



              heard numbers in the 500 million-750 million range for the civil lawsuits
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              • Br0nxer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-25-11
                • 13665

                #8
                Originally posted by Maxmillion
                I know, I dont know how the football program absorbs that, especially with no one giving cash anymore.

                they have insurance that covers this kind of circumstance is what i heard a couple months ago

                no idea if that info was accurate
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                • bobby heenan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-20-09
                  • 4120

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Br0nxer


                  heard numbers in the 500 million-750 million range for the civil lawsuits
                  Also heard they have insurance for shit like that
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                  • paranoyd androyd
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-01-11
                    • 6459

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Br0nxer


                    heard numbers in the 500 million-750 million range for the civil lawsuits
                    hearing around the same, up to $1B collective
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                    • convick
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-03-11
                      • 3954

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Br0nxer
                      they have insurance that covers this kind of circumstance is what i heard a couple months ago

                      no idea if that info was accurate
                      "Penn State could pursue a legal case to argue that it is protected under sovereign immunity, although there are no signs of that happening yet.The school also has said its insurance will cover civil liability claims, but McClatchy Newspapers recently reported that Penn State was battling its insurer over the issue."

                      They might be fukked on that end too.

                      http://news.yahoo.com/penn-state-civ...165405841.html
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                      • seaborneq
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-08-06
                        • 22556

                        #12
                        Had the second most donations this year despite the scandal. Penn State won't go out like punks because of the NCAA fine. The civil lawsuits, that's another matter. As long as there are bricks holding up buildings and a football team there will forever be lawsuits against Penn State because of what is already known to have happened. Pittsburgh Panthers are now back in the college football business.
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                        • greenhippo
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                          • 02-15-12
                          • 9091

                          #13
                          The football team brought in over 110M just last year. The 30M NCAA fine is laughable, might as well fine them 20 bucks. Penalties better cripple the team and the school
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                          • Wrigley
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                            • 12-28-07
                            • 7268

                            #14
                            Big Ten could kick them out of the conference takes 8 votes out of the 12 schools to do so

                            CBS Sports has the latest College Football news, live scores, player stats, standings, fantasy games, and projections.


                            The Big Ten could also deploy the nuclear option: booting Penn State out of the conference entirely. The Chronicle of Higher Education reported last week that the league hasn't ruled out taking a vote on the school's continuing membership, one that would require eight of the 12 schools to vote in favor of Penn State's removal for the proposal to pass. The conference bylaws require any member that fails to show complete, accurate information during an investigation to "show cause why its membership in the conference should not be suspended or terminated."
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                            • 19th Hole
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-22-09
                              • 18954

                              #15
                              Good points Wrigley.

                              Last November the Big10 acted quickly and correctly ... removing Paterno's name from
                              the conference football trophy, keeping only the name of Amos Alonzo Stagg.

                              I think that all Pedo State administrators and alumi who knew of the abuse
                              and did nothing should be prosecuted ....bring them all to justice.
                              What a disgraceful institution, putting the reputation of a football program
                              above the destroyed lives of innocent children
                              Give the football program "The Death penalty" because they deserve that and more.
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                              • Emily_Haines
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-14-09
                                • 15917

                                #16
                                What a joke that the NCAA thinks they are the new Roger Goodell. All the people involved were either fired or are dead but that's still not enough for these ass clowns.
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