Every Gambler should watch these SBR Justin videos.

[raydog]

Hey Ray, how many of those guys do this...



Words of a winner.

have to watch those guys...they are dangerous

[PickWinnerAllDay]

pickwinnersallday, we werent really discussing line shopping as much as nysg was basically saying he didnt care what the line was, he was betting the team that he capped to cover a line, no matter how bad that line was...and then said if he got a good # or beat the closer, that was even better, but completely irrelevant ... this is how the majority of people bet and the flaw in this is seen in the books bottom line every year...their really is no valid arguement

i admit, i have run across a few guys who dont line shop much and dont worry much with statistical edges, closing #s, etc... but are in the black for their lifetime and honestly seem to have a knack at winning in certain sports... it can happen, they study the shit out of teams and simply win more than they lose, its just rare...but nobody is getting rich doing it and the bad streaks are much worse than the good and the odds are heavily stacked against them winning long term, but some still keep on winning a little, year after year... nysg, maybe you will be one of those guys... 3 years isnt much time to show, but if you think you are ahead for your first 3 years, then i wish you the same luck until you quit...

since you need some sort of proof, i believe mathy probably has a small database showing the winning % of players beating closing #s at some large books since they started calculating things of that nature... maybe he will share it in the morning

Fair enough. I think I know more about pitchers and pitching than most people. I feel like I have an edge betting on unders because of that. Maybe it is my imagination. I know I have won consistently with MLB totals but it's only been 4 years so maybe it has been a fluke. I do have some horrible months as well, usually around June. Happened last year too. Really gotta go west to focus on unders when it's 100 on the entire east coast.

[ZetaPsi808]

NYS, i call it like i see it and they are right

they meaning MF, raydog and Nicky

beating the closing line is important, although i do not think you can rely on that as your only strategy

picker since you bet so much per game i recommend getting more than one out

access to different books will save you a lot of money in juice in the long run

[ZetaPsi808]

i used to think the same way NYS does until i read nicky santoro's posts
i was the biggest square, i used to cap baseball games using pitcher's ERA and teams' won/loss records

i learned about terms like: beating the closing line, pinny steam, no vig line, etc

one thing i still do not know about is the value of a half point in NBA, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAB and a run in MLB

how accurate is this? http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-tool...nt-calculator/

i would think a half run would cost more in juice in a baseball total that is 6 compared to a total that is 12

i always second guess myself whether to take a +5 -105 or +5.5 -110

i bet MF or mathy has a tool for this

[GunShard]

Everyone new to gambling should view this thread.

[NYSportsGuy210]

i used to think the same way NYS does until i read nicky santoro's posts
i was the biggest square, i used to cap baseball games using pitcher's ERA and teams' won/loss records

i learned about terms like: beating the closing line, pinny steam, no vig line, etc

one thing i still do not know about is the value of a half point in NBA, NFL, NCAAB, NCAAB and a run in MLB

how accurate is this? http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-tool...nt-calculator/

i would think a half run would cost more in juice in a baseball total that is 6 compared to a total that is 12

i always second guess myself whether to take a +5 -105 or +5.5 -110

i bet MF or mathy has a tool for this

Pitcher's ERA? lol no wonder you failed using the real method.

[SBR_John]

15,120 vid plays. Nice.

[acl123]

at beating the closing number
all you math guys put down the ******* calculators and pick winners.

[jjgold]

Gunner good thread

Many guys put holes in Justin's methods though

He is more of a bonus guy

[GunShard]

Yea, not all of his videos are reasonable. But the house edge on the parlays made perfect sense. The smaller the parlay the better the chance to win.

[therushishere]

Solid thread

[ProfaneReality]

I like his videos. I find it funny that there's about 15 cuts in a 3 minute video though.

[therushishere]

I was referring more to the conversation but videos have some useful stuff in them too.

[hawley]

Silly Persian

[therushishere]

So it doesn't really matter if you play the worst lines over the long term because variance doesn't really matter and if you can pick winners you pick winners right?

[durito]

$10,000 dick wad.

get back to us when you add a couple more zeros

[BEANTOWNJIM]

15,000 VIEWS YAH WE HAVE A LOT OF POSTERS WHO HAVE A SLEEP DISORDER AND JUSTIN7 HELPS SLEEP DEPRIVED POSTERS GET SOME REST.I KNOW WHEN I AM TIRED I WILL POP ON A JUSTIN 7 VIDEO AND WITHING 30 SECONDS I AM SOUND ASLEEP

WHO NEEDS SLEEPING PILLS WHEN WE HAVE JUSTIN 7

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY SBR JOHN WHY DONT YOU SEND JUSTIN 7 TO A GYM NOBODY TAKES CHUBBY GUYS SERIOUSLY IF HE WAS IN SHAPE AND DRESSED A LITTLE BETTER HE MIGHT HAVE A CAREER IN VIDEOS.

I KNOW BLACK SHIRTS ARE SLIMMING BUT THEY DONT SEEM TO BE WORKING FOR JUSTIN 7 GET THE KID A NEW WARDROBE

[ttrace35]

HEY SBR JOHN WHY DONT YOU SEND JUSTIN 7 TO A GYM NOBODY TAKES CHUBBY GUYS SERIOUSLY IF HE WAS IN SHAPE AND DRESSED A LITTLE BETTER HE MIGHT HAVE A CAREER IN VIDEOS.

I KNOW BLACK SHIRTS ARE SLIMMING BUT THEY DONT SEEM TO BE WORKING FOR JUSTIN 7 GET THE KID A NEW WARDROBE

Gay post

[GunShard]

Listen to ESPN podcast with Justin7.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8290068

[jjgold]

Compared to Mathy Justin is a square

[GunShard]

Justin7 and Lakerboy are value bettors. They bet sportsbooks like the stock market. I don't believe that works.

[MasterP10]

YES I HIGHLY RECOMEND THESE VIDEOS IF YOU HAVE INSOMNIA I CANT TAKE WATCHING 2 MINUTES OF JUSTIN HE HAS THAT WHINING VOICE THAT GETS ON MY NERVES.HE REMINDS ME OF BEN STEIN MAN I HATE BEN STEINS VOICE CERTAIN GUYS GET ON MY NERVES AND I GUESS JUSTIN 7 IS ONE OF THEM

ASK YOURSELF DOES JUSTIN 7 LOOK LIKE HE IS A SUCCESSFULL GUY I GUESS HIS SYSTEM ISNT WORKING FOR HIM

You probally look rich but are broke as....

[MasterP10]

Justin7 and Lakerboy are value bettors. They bet sportsbooks like the stock market. I don't believe that works.

So how do you bet sports?