Is a Spain-Germany final destiny?

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  • cleaveland
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    • 04-04-10
    • 1559

    #1
    Is a Spain-Germany final destiny?
    I really think it is. Not only because those are obviously the two best teams left in the Euro 2012 tournament but....

    Think about it from a business standpoint, how much money is that final worth? Consider the fact that every soccer fan in the world would want to see that final. Now, add all the additional revenue from all the extra viewers all over the world that will be watching that match (as opposed to if Portugal or Italy reach the final), it's big money. We're talking big money to be made all over the world in terms of ad revenue and hype for the tournament.

    Let's be realistic, big business is controlled by people who don't give a **** about which teams are better, they want to maximize profits.

    A Spain to advance/Germany to advance parlay pays out at plus money right now. I see that as a huge, huge value play.
  • Rod1010
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    • 09-01-10
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    #2
    No.
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    • lunchbawks
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      • 01-31-10
      • 12873

      #3
      Germany-Portugal would be more exciting for the casual fan
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      • cleaveland
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        • 04-04-10
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        #4
        I really think the system has made it's decision.

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        • cleaveland
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          • 04-04-10
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          #5
          Originally posted by lunchbawks
          Germany-Portugal would be more exciting for the casual fan
          We're talking expectations, hype, viewers/ratings, etc. etc. Spain/Germany is the best choice by far.
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          • CanuckG
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            • 12-23-10
            • 21978

            #6
            Gut feeling Portugal wins tomorrow...
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            • paco
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              • 05-07-09
              • 62873

              #7
              Nazis will win it all
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              • Sunde91
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                • 11-26-09
                • 8325

                #8
                Where was the system the last 2 World Cups when all 8 semifinalists were Euro. No Brazil, no Argentina, no wildcard like Ghana or South Korea. And a Brazil-Spain WC Final might have been the most watched game ever
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                • cleaveland
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                  • 04-04-10
                  • 1559

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sunde91
                  Where was the system the last 2 World Cups when all 8 semifinalists were Euro. No Brazil, no Argentina, no wildcard like Ghana or South Korea. And a Brazil-Spain WC Final might have been the most watched game ever
                  Things can't always be controlled but in this case I think Spain and Germany are so much better than their competition that a little help here and there can make this a virtual lock. That's my opinion, we'll see what happens.
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                  • CanuckG
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                    • 12-23-10
                    • 21978

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sunde91
                    Where was the system the last 2 World Cups when all 8 semifinalists were Euro. No Brazil, no Argentina, no wildcard like Ghana or South Korea. And a Brazil-Spain WC Final might have been the most watched game ever
                    Almost all 8....
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                    • Rod1010
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                      • 09-01-10
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                      #11
                      italy will beat germany
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                      • Goat Milk
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                        • 03-24-10
                        • 25850

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sunde91
                        Where was the system the last 2 World Cups when all 8 semifinalists were Euro. No Brazil, no Argentina, no wildcard like Ghana or South Korea. And a Brazil-Spain WC Final might have been the most watched game ever
                        Brazil was destined to lose that match against the dutch. I called it. Not only because of the style they were playing, but because not choosing Ronaldhino on the squad was one of the worst calls in World Cup history. He was still a solid player at that time, and more WC experience than anyone else in the nation. Ha. Dunga. What a fool.
                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                        • Sunde91
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                          • 11-26-09
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                          #13
                          forgot Uruguay

                          and in 2004 when dreadful no names Greece wins over host Portugal. Cool troll thread op
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                          • cleaveland
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                            • 04-04-10
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sunde91
                            Cool troll thread op
                            I've got 897 points, I'll bet you even odds as many points as you want up to my total. If I lose I'll send you 2 points everyday until it's all paid. If you lose you pay me now as you're a pro.

                            Remember, if I'm trolling than my argument must be wrong so you have nothing to lose.
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                            • Sunde91
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                              • 11-26-09
                              • 8325

                              #15
                              So I have to pay all 365 while you pay 2 a day for 183 days. And this is all for something worth $16 in giftcards. Woah what a bargain bro
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                              • cleaveland
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                                • 04-04-10
                                • 1559

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Sunde91
                                So I have to pay all 365 while you pay 2 a day for 183 days. And this is all for something worth $16 in giftcards. Woah what a bargain bro
                                My "troll thread" can't be right so it's risk free points for you. I'll pay you +150 you pay me +100 for your trouble. Deal?
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                                • lakerboy
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                                  • 04-02-09
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                                  #17
                                  Germany has never beaten italy in a wc or euro match. I will say that italy has a mental edge over the nazis. Low was dumb to rest key players in the greece match. The italians are not a household team without cannavaro/costacurta etc but this italy team is solid and unified. Prandelli has a team of destiny and italians always do well when no one expects them to do like this tourney. Italy is tough and the germans are an offensive team with a lack of defensive intuity. Italy will punish germany on the counterattack and advance.
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                                  • cleaveland
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                                    • 04-04-10
                                    • 1559

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cleaveland
                                    My "troll thread" can't be right so it's risk free points for you. I'll pay you +150 you pay me +100 for your trouble. Deal?
                                    Sunde91 -

                                    If you don't give me an answer within 1 hour from now then this offer is rescinded. I don't want to have to keep checking this thread.
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                                    • lunchbawks
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                                      • 01-31-10
                                      • 12873

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      Germany has never beaten italy in a wc or euro match. I will say that italy has a mental edge over the nazis. Low was dumb to rest key players in the greece match. The italians are not a household team without cannavaro/costacurta etc but this italy team is solid and unified. Prandelli has a team of destiny and italians always do well when no one expects them to do like this tourney. Italy is tough and the germans are an offensive team with a lack of defensive intuity. Italy will punish germany on the counterattack and advance.
                                      Italy +0.5 is a solid play
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                                      • cleaveland
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                                        • 04-04-10
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cleaveland
                                        Sunde91 -

                                        If you don't give me an answer within 1 hour from now then this offer is rescinded. I don't want to have to keep checking this thread.
                                        The offer's rescinded but there will be plenty of opportunities for me to gloat anyway.
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                                        • Marigold HD
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                                          • 09-03-07
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                                          #21
                                          Go Spain please
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                                          • BigSpoon
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                                            • 11-04-10
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                                            #22
                                            I'd like to see a Spain v Germany final but these things usually never work out this way.

                                            At least one of the two will eliminated in the SF imo. Hopefully its Germany and not Spain.
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                                            • aceking
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                                              • 09-07-05
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                                              #23
                                              champions league final was supposed to be Barca vs Real .

                                              instead its Bayern vs Chelsea .

                                              so it will be Portugal vs Italy final .
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                                              • k13
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                                                • 07-16-10
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                Where was the system the last 2 World Cups when all 8 semifinalists were Euro. No Brazil, no Argentina, no wildcard like Ghana or South Korea. And a Brazil-Spain WC Final might have been the most watched game ever
                                                Argentina was never supposed to be anywhere anyway, Brazil has been choking for the last two world cups, nothing new.

                                                The semi-final already had Germany-Spain like everyone wanted.

                                                The Italy-France final was another big names match up.
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                                                • k13
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                                                  • 07-16-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  So defending World champions vs previous world champions would not be watched by anyone???

                                                  As much as I don't care for Italy people are making them sound like they are San Marino....lol

                                                  The tournament organizers will be happy with whatever final it is from these 4, the only teams they did NOT want is Greece, Ireland, Czechs, Denmark, Croatia, Sweden in the final.
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                                                  • k13
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                                                    • 07-16-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    I still don't see how its not a Spain-Germany final myself....Italy is out since I have their futures so that only leaves Portugal with a slim chance of getting a lucky goal.




                                                    We can all agree it will be an all Euro Final.
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                                                    • k13
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                                                      • 07-16-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      If you bet Spain at +170 and Germany at +175 to win it all, how can you lose?

                                                      The other teams don't have a chance.

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                                                      • vaas187
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                                                        • 03-01-12
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                        Germany has never beaten italy in a wc or euro match. I will say that italy has a mental edge over the nazis. Low was dumb to rest key players in the greece match. The italians are not a household team without cannavaro/costacurta etc but this italy team is solid and unified. Prandelli has a team of destiny and italians always do well when no one expects them to do like this tourney. Italy is tough and the germans are an offensive team with a lack of defensive intuity. Italy will punish germany on the counterattack and advance.
                                                        meh. i predicted the semi's. everything in my brackets are predicted perfectly except for russia, greece, france taking second and not winning the group and poland
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                                                        • vaas187
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by aceking
                                                          champions league final was supposed to be Barca vs Real .

                                                          instead its Bayern vs Chelsea .

                                                          so it will be Portugal vs Italy final .
                                                          LOL. that bayern lost killed me. i was so pissed.
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                                                          • cleaveland
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                                                            • 04-04-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by cleaveland
                                                            I really think the system has made it's decision.



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                                                            • smoke a bowl
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                                                              • 02-09-09
                                                              • 2776

                                                              #31
                                                              I like both dogs, Portugal more but I'm betting on both dogs to advance.
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                                                              • mv09
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-20-07
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Rod1010
                                                                italy will beat germany
                                                                Germany is at this moment, quite possibly, the best team in the world.. Could they lose, anything can happen but they are miles better than Italy.
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                                                                • mv09
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-20-07
                                                                  • 800

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Parlay Spain and Germany to win. +105 odds give or take. I like it since its more likely to happen than not.
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                                                                  • cleaveland
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                                                                    • 04-04-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cleaveland
                                                                    I really think the system has made it's decision.

                                                                    (In the ominous voice of the architect): One down, one to go.
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                                                                    • Prime Sports
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 06-20-12
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Like the last Euro (2008) Spain and Germany will made the final, IMO.

                                                                      But this time, Germany will win. IMO, this type of game that Spain is playing, passing and let the time running, will not work against Germany.

                                                                      Germany also knows how to pass the ball, but IMO, they are better on the offense. While Spain pass the ball and don't shoot on goal, Germany pass and shoot a lot!!

                                                                      Anyway, that's is my opinion.
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