Hockey Shoot Outs Misrepresent Better team

Brock Landers · 10-15-08, 09:24 AM

better than those ****o ties they had before

SBR Lou · 10-15-08, 09:26 AM

Sounds to me like legal action should be taken.

Richkas · 10-15-08, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Who made this rule up? Shootouts do not determine who the better team is but who got luck guessing right in the shootout, any average hockey player can score in a shootout, it is just pure luck who wins after the OT period.

Silly rule

thats why no shootouts in playoffs

element1286 · 10-15-08, 09:30 AM

I wasn't really a fan of it when it was first adopted. But I have come to enjoy them. And the other option is a tie, and I think this is better. In the regular season, I don't think it is a bad idea, there are so many games that the better teams should win in the long run.

And it is not as easy to score in a shootout as you might think.

Richkas · 10-15-08, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by element1286

I wasn't really a fan of it when it was first adopted. But I have come to enjoy them. And the other option is a tie, and I think this is better. In the regular season, I don't think it is a bad idea, there are so many games that the better teams should win in the long run.

And it is not as easy to score in a shootout as you might think.

I seen Nicky deke a goalie at will in his video

element1286 · 10-15-08, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Richkas

I seen Nicky deke a goalie at will in his video

On foot doesn't count.

Richkas · 10-15-08, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by element1286

On foot doesn't count.

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Deuce · 10-15-08, 10:13 AM

This guy knows nothing about hockey. Stop now.

Nicky Santoro · 10-15-08, 10:16 AM

shootouts to decide a game is the stupidest thing ever invented in sports history. it's a dumb way to decide a game. it was only put in for the fans to make the game more interesting in the US cause no one in the US cares about hockey..

It is such a stupid idea.. they've ruined the game.. i never thought i'd see the day where shootouts would decide an NHL game.. once game goes to shootout, there is no advantage for any team.. even if DET plays columbus.. it's 50-50.. great teams last year were crappy at shootouts, while some bad teams were untouchable.

it's so freakin stupid. It's a disgrace for the game. It makes the NHL look bad.

Brock Landers · 10-15-08, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santauro

shootouts to decide a game is the stupidest thing ever invented in sports history. it's a dumb way to decide a game. it was only put in for the fans to make the game more interesting in the US cause no one in the US cares about hockey..

It is such a stupid idea.. they've ruined the game.. i never thought i'd see the day where shootouts would decide an NHL game.. once game goes to shootout, there is no advantage for any team.. even if DET plays columbus.. it's 50-50.. great teams last year were crappy at shootouts, while some bad teams were untouchable.

it's so freakin stupid. It's a disgrace for the game. It makes the NHL look bad.

So you prefer a Tie? It may not be the best solution, the best would be to keep playing till someone scores, but that isn't going to happen outside of the playoffs..however i'll take this ALL the time over the Fvcking Tie games they had before

Deuce · 10-15-08, 11:37 AM

jjgold · 10-15-08, 11:56 AM

Ties are better than shootout wins and has more meaning.

Does the NBA take foul shots after a game ends tied in regulation to determine a winner?

starboots · 10-15-08, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by Deuce

hahaha

donjuan · 10-15-08, 01:41 PM

Why do we need to not have ties in the regular season?

themajormt · 10-15-08, 02:08 PM

I do agree that the shootouts SUCK... BUT what about when you have the over at 5 and its 2-2 going into OT... You KNOW you're getting a push this way, compared to pissing your pants the whole time praying for a goal for a push. I like the shootouts in OT for regular season. Keeps the teams aggressive!

donjuan · 10-15-08, 02:25 PM

Totals are adjusted for shootouts.

reno cool · 10-15-08, 03:58 PM

I think shootouts are great.

some good creative skill on display. Thats a good thing.

Luck is getting a bounce of a defensemans foot in the 3rd overtime period when both teams are tired.

Nicky Santoro · 10-15-08, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by themajormt

BUT what about when you have the over at 5 and its 2-2 going into OT... You KNOW you're getting a push this way, compared to pissing your pants the whole time praying for a goal for a push

like donny said, they are adjusted for OT and Shootouts.. so basically, when a total is 5.. had there not been SO in NHL, that total would be 4.5 ov -125, instead of 5 flat.. so in essence, when game ends 3-2 or 4-1, you'd be getting a win, rather than a push.. so SO could be hurting you.

the way i'd do rather see it, is play 4 on 4 till someone scores.. the avg OT will go about 5-6 minutes before someone scores.. doublet OT's would hardly ever happen.. game would be decided fast.. forget the joke of shootouts.. they make a mockery of the game..

Does baseball have home run hitting contests to decide extra innings? How funny would that be??

blittydeuce · 10-15-08, 06:16 PM

so does NFL OT

Dashwood Clipper · 10-15-08, 06:26 PM

I am not a huge fan of the shootout, as the better team doesnt always win. It is a crapshoot, as even the better talent doesnt always prevail. What bothers me most about the NHL OT system in general:

A team wins in regulation time and earns two points.
Now two teams go into OT, with a point each, with the winner gaining an additional point, making that game worth 3 points. OT games are worth 3 points while regulation game is worth 2.

element1286 · 10-15-08, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Dashwood Clipper

I am not a huge fan of the shootout, as the better team doesnt always win. It is a crapshoot, as even the better talent doesnt always prevail. What bothers me most about the NHL OT system in general:

A team wins in regulation time and earns two points.
Now two teams go into OT, with a point each, with the winner gaining an additional point, making that game worth 3 points. OT games are worth 3 points while regulation game is worth 2.

Yes, that is definitely a bigger issue for me than the shootout.

Miser · 10-15-08, 09:21 PM

The shootout is made for the American fans. We like action and winners and losers. But I liked it better as a tie. 2 teams that battled deserve a point each. At least the loser in a shootout gets 1 point.

Dashwood Clipper · 10-15-08, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Miser

The shootout is made for the American fans. We like action and winners and losers. But I liked it better as a tie. 2 teams that battled deserve a point each. At least the loser in a shootout gets 1 point.

I agree that it is made for American fans. I would have no problems with shootout loser getting 1 point. But regulation winner should get 3, as that is what OT games are worth.

Brady2Moss · 10-15-08, 11:12 PM

Good teams beat other teams in regulation/ot and dont rely on shootouts to make the playoffs...

reno cool · 10-16-08, 11:53 PM

I agree that a game should only be worth 2 points, no matter what