Somebody Please Let Raiders Post Here

**BAUS** · 06-15-06, 03:34 PM

Raiders was warned many times about his shilling ways, but he couldn't control himself.

We don't need Raiders here.

BAUS

**Mudcat** · 06-15-06, 03:43 PM

My vote would be a big

**bigboydan** · 06-15-06, 03:53 PM

my vote is yes, but it's out of my control.

**Terris** · 06-15-06, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by bigboydan

my vote is yes, but it's out of my control.

lucky us, hard to believe someone wants that PITA back

**tacomax** · 06-15-06, 04:11 PM

Six years ago, a Vegas sharp told me that Raiders wasn't very good.

**SBR_John** · 06-15-06, 04:38 PM

I tried to ask him why he works for scum books like NoJuice(verge of bankruptcy), Playthe Score(bankrupt), Richcoast(bankrupt), BetOnSports(stiff book).

He is too dangerous. He could care less about players, only about himself. In fact, as strange as it sounds he seems to enjoy seeing players suffer and lose all their money. He loves trying to convince the books to stiff players with disputes.

He sent dozens of emails to BOS mgmt showing them how good of a schill he is. I dont want to take a chance that he will bag and fleece an SBR newbie. He is banned at most good forums because he is a dangerous self serving cancer. Otherwise I like the guy.

**TLD** · 06-15-06, 05:21 PM

There’s a big difference between someone who incessantly warns people away from crooked books and someone who equally incessantly tries to entice people into playing with crooked books for his own enrichment. Maybe they’re both “boring” because forum veterans have heard their spiel so many times, but that’s about where the similarity ends.

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by isetcap

So that he doesn't have to keep setting up new accounts from different IPs. Put a warning under his alias so that any new forum members will know what all of us already know, and let him post away. At the very least, he will offset the obtusely negative things that Chuck writes all the time. Beyond that, he typically provides some good insight which is something Chuck OneTrackMind Sims doesn't offer very often.

What aliases isetcap? I need to know !!

I always though raiders and imgv had similar machine gun-style modus operandi but who else has he been?

Not pags surely??

**Chuck Sims** · 06-15-06, 05:41 PM

Please ban this idiot raiders. He continues to spew lies and is a lowly capt. in the BOS crime organization.

**SBR_John** · 06-15-06, 05:54 PM

Mods...

If you can restrict raiders to the private folder then he could post here and he could be on post review for the main. But he can't work here so please delete his posts and ban him whenever he pops up.

Raiders, we don't allow schills, please respect our policy.

**isetcap** · 06-15-06, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

Mods...

If you can restrict raiders to the private folder then he could post here and he could be on post review for the main. But he can't work here so please delete his posts and ban him whenever he pops up.

Raiders, we don't allow schills, please respect our policy.

Sounds fair.

**tacomax** · 06-15-06, 07:29 PM

You've got to admit that the quality of the site has improved since scammers like AK and raiders were zapped.

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

You've got to admit that the quality of the site has improved since scammers like AK and raiders were zapped.

Are you sure? Im sure I read that the forum was still sufferring from a few 'problem posters'.

**Mudcat** · 06-15-06, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

You've got to admit that the quality of the site has improved since scammers like AK and raiders were zapped.

I admit that without reservation. Each banning was an instant upgrade for the forum in the class department.

I care about the shill angle, but it's probably less a factor for me than everyone else. I just see a guy who can't conduct himself within proper standards. Even if he was restricted to the Private forum he would just be doing pouty, name-calling threads all day. Mudcat Meanie. Terrible Taco.

Better to just skip it IMO.

**tacomax** · 06-15-06, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by natrass

Are you sure? Im sure I read that the forum was still sufferring from a few 'problem posters'.

Yes, but we've got the SBR sheriff to keep things under control.

**SBR_John** · 06-15-06, 09:15 PM

Raiders was banished to the rubber room for popping off too many miss truths at the Rx(noo....really?). Eventually he was kicked out altogether.

At least the Private Room has a clear warning of danger.

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Mudcat

Mudcat Meanie. Terrible Taco.
.

If i recall correctly, he used more ... "colourful" expressions than that!!

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 10:17 PM

Taco, your avatar is deeply disturbing. I dont like it and want you to change it.

Thanks.

**tacomax** · 06-15-06, 10:21 PM

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 10:28 PM

I cant look at the photo. Its disturbing for heterosexuals taco, try to consider people of other sexual persuasions than your own.

If you dont, Ill ask BuddyBear and Pags to come and sort you out like they did with the great one. Now you dont want that do you? I think you're already on their hit list as a problem poster so its a fine line you are treading my friend.!!

**tacomax** · 06-15-06, 10:50 PM

I'll let the secret committee rule on this one, OK?

**natrass** · 06-15-06, 10:57 PM

Whos the secret committee?

Am I on it?

**isetcap** · 06-15-06, 10:58 PM

It is deeply disturbing! I'm glad you brought the cat back though, Natrass. I wish taco would put up a crunchy taco shell with some little arms and legs and a big thumbs up. Man that would great.

**Patrick McIrish** · 06-16-06, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by TLD

There’s a big difference between someone who incessantly warns people away from crooked books and someone who equally incessantly tries to entice people into playing with crooked books for his own enrichment. Maybe they’re both “boring” because forum veterans have heard their spiel so many times, but that’s about where the similarity ends.

Good post.

**Patrick McIrish** · 06-16-06, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by Tman

BoS was wrong not to pay the player ......

Thank you Raiders, I can finally agree with you on this issue. What else needs to be said?

**isetcap** · 06-16-06, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by TLD

There’s a big difference between someone who incessantly warns people away from crooked books and someone who equally incessantly tries to entice people into playing with crooked books for his own enrichment. Maybe they’re both “boring” because forum veterans have heard their spiel so many times, but that’s about where the similarity ends.

The unfortunate thing about Chuck's posts is that they are blatantly agenda driven. This does not leave room for objectivity, so when he claims that the BoS group is the biggest group of scammers out there, that is about as disingenuous as Art saying he's just some poor little innocent victim in this whole situation. These tactics create fear where there need not be any if the information being presented were objective, so indeed there is a similarity between the two.

A more appropriate warning might be:
Avoid BoS if you are a bonus whore and you plan on trying to scalp out within the BoS group after they blatantly warned you against doing so. Your bonus funds and any winnings from the bonuses could be in severe jeopardy. If you are a legit player then you don't need to worry about your money.

**SBR_John** · 06-16-06, 05:31 AM

At least Chuck is not on anyone's payroll. Raiders is not sharing his opinion, he is getting paid to post. He is a schill. The second BOS pulls his plug he would dump them.

**natrass** · 06-16-06, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by isetcap

The unfortunate thing about Chuck's posts is that they are blatantly agenda driven. This does not leave room for objectivity, so when he claims that the BoS group is the biggest group of scammers out there, that is about as disingenuous as Art saying he's just some poor little innocent victim in this whole situation. These tactics create fear where there need not be any if the information being presented were objective, so indeed there is a similarity between the two.

A more appropriate warning might be:
Avoid BoS if you are a bonus whore and you plan on trying to scalp out within the BoS group after they blatantly warned you against doing so. Your bonus funds and any winnings from the bonuses could be in severe jeopardy. If you are a legit player then you don't need to worry about your money.

This is true.

Something sticks in my craw when a player 'massages' his story to the forum. You cant help feeling 'if he is lying about this then maybe..."

But, of course, BOS is the shadiest of shady books for this kind of thing.

**isetcap** · 06-16-06, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by natrass

This is true.

Something sticks in my craw when a player 'massages' his story to the forum. You cant help feeling 'if he is lying about this then maybe..."

But, of course, BOS is the shadiest of shady books for this kind of thing.

Yes, I have little doubt that if we had internal access to BoS information this situation wouldn't be quite as black and white as it "appears" based on Art's "facts".

I agree about BoS, though. Things like this just show that they aren't ready to play with the big boys.

**Illusion** · 06-16-06, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by isetcap

I wish taco would put up a crunchy taco shell with some little arms and legs and a big thumbs up. Man that would great.

How about it taco? That would be cool.

**tacomax** · 06-16-06, 08:46 PM

Looks like it's Pick On Tacomax's Avatar Day today, eh? I'm reporting you all to the secret committee for trying to prevent my democratic avatar-related rights.

**Chuck Sims** · 06-16-06, 10:11 PM

Who is this isetcap? No doubt a shill for BetonSports. How unfortunate to have a phony who posts like a friendly raiders.

Incredibly ignorant posts by isetcap all the while pretending to be nuetral.

**isetcap** · 06-16-06, 10:41 PM

Yeah, who am I, Chuck? You don't know me but if I don't buy into your agenda then apparently I am a phony. Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing about you.

**Chuck Sims** · 06-17-06, 12:12 AM

funny isetcap, you're the one that wants scumbag raiders posting here again. That says all I want to know about you. You've exposed yourself. Posters like you are so transparrent.

Why be a coward? Tell us what your posting handle is on the other forums. If you did that then we would know exactly why you want raiders posting here at SBR.