The mess that Obama "inherited"
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crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-04-11
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#37How you libs expect us to get out of this economy when tax money is going towards welfare, planned parent hood, education which is pathetic what we are paying considering how dumb we are, and now you guys are pushing for birth control. I can go on and on and now we are racist because we want to get rid of illegals meanwhile we have more illegals than anyone in world by far and on top of that we are 15 trillion in debt and Obama added 5 in one term, that sure sounds like the recipe to get us out of debt alright, can't have your cake and eat it tooComment -
PickWinnerAllDaySBR Posting Legend
- 08-31-11
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#38Yep, you run right on down to the nearest Wal-mart and spend your EBT card the minute you're loaded up. Obama gives you 4 more years of a free ride, of course you're going to vote for him.Comment -
DutchSBR MVP
- 09-21-10
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#39I don't have any graphs to back up the fact that anyone who thinks there's a real difference between the parties or that it mattered who won the election in '08 is a total fuking idiot, but it's a fact.Comment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#40What's hilarious about all of this rhetoric is these clowns want to blame Obama when in fact, all of these hi level politicians are corrupt. I may not agree with things Obama has done but currently, there are no better options.
If you honestly think, the POTUS can fix all of the shit by himself and/or you think Rommney is the answer, you are a bigger moron than I originally thought.
bush actually lost more jobs in his first term than obama. and obama inherited the worst economic crisis since the great depression. bush otoh inherited a record surplus!
romneys record as gov is a joke too. ranked 47th in job creation... unemploymemt went over national avg for the first time, more people left the state than entered.... passed obamacare errrr romneycare.
yeah but hes the best man fir the job.
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crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-04-11
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#42exactly.
bush actually lost more jobs in his first term than obama. and obama inherited the worst economic crisis since the great depression. bush otoh inherited a record surplus!
romneys record as gov is a joke too. ranked 47th in job creation... unemploymemt went over national avg for the first time, more people left the state than entered.... passed obamacare errrr romneycare.
yeah but hes the best man fir the job.
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Extra InningsSBR Posting Legend
- 02-26-10
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#43What's hilarious about all of this rhetoric is these clowns want to blame Obama when in fact, all of these hi level politicians are corrupt. I may not agree with things Obama has done but currently, there are no better options.
If you honestly think, the POTUS can fix all of the shit by himself and/or you think Rommney is the answer, you are a bigger moron than I originally thought.
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KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#44AlsoComment -
KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#45Also mass was ranked 50th in job creation before mitt took officeComment -
KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#46And Romney took mass from 50th to 30th in jobs in four years that's a factComment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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#47
1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.
2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.
3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.
4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.
5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.
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Tully Mars 63SBR MVP
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#48When the facts don't support your argument simply change the facts.Comment -
KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#49Thinkprogress is liberal blogComment -
KingJD31SBR Hall of Famer
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#50http://www.politifact.com/virginia/a...ation-record-/
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell made comments very similar to Fehrnstrom’s during a June 3 interview on CNN, saying Massachusetts went from 47th to 30th in job creation while Romney was in office.Comment -
Tully Mars 63SBR MVP
- 08-06-11
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#51http://www.politifact.com/virginia/a...ation-record-/
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell made comments very similar to Fehrnstrom’s during a June 3 interview on CNN, saying Massachusetts went from 47th to 30th in job creation while Romney was in office.
Them saying it and it being true are not the same thing-
From the article you sourced-
PolitiFact examined seasonally adjusted figures BLS figures from December 2002 to December 2006 -- the month before Romney was inaugurated through his last full month is office.
Massachusetts did rank 47th in job growth during that time. PolitiFact again noted that governors have a small impacts on a state economies. It rated Axelrod's claim Half True, saying that while the number was right, Obama’s campaign exaggerated Romney’s past control over Massachusetts’ job market.
PolitiFact also ruled Half True a statement by Eric Fehrnstrom, a Romney adviser. He recently said that, under Romney, Massachusetts initially ranked last among states in job growth but moved up to "the middle of the pack" by the end of his term. While the rankings are basically correct, PolitiFact found that like the Obama campaign, Fehrnstrom exaggerated Romney’s impact on Massachusetts’ economy.
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell made comments very similar to Fehrnstrom’s during a June 3 interview on CNN, saying Massachusetts went from 47th to 30th in job creation while Romney was in office.Comment -
PickWinnerAllDaySBR Posting Legend
- 08-31-11
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#52The funny thing that liberals conveniently ignore what Bush had to resolve back after 2001.
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PickWinnerAllDaySBR Posting Legend
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#53Looks to me like it bottomed out because of the terrorist attacks and was pointing pretty much straight up when Obama took office. Strange.Comment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
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PickWinnerAllDaySBR Posting Legend
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#55Oh yeah... the above information REALLY is a warning. What would you have done? Shut down all air travel for a year or so? I bet you are one of those morons that believes there were explosives in the basement of the buildings.Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
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#56Meanwhile in real time ....
Vlad Putin is eating Obama's lunch in Mexico ... 'lecturing' our President
And... BTW - How is that Arab Spring coming ?Comment -
King MayanSBR Posting Legend
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rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-05-09
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#58Reading your link King, much of the information on 'bamas commercials are right. Your link is claiming the
gov has no control over jobs or the economy within the state. If that's the case, why is everyone blaming
'bama? If a gov isn't liable for the states economy, why should a pres be liable? Why not blame congress?
Make the shit roll down hill instead of up.Comment -
crustymeSBR Posting Legend
- 09-29-10
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#60
he could have done what the clinton administration did when they received similar hijacking warnings......
The 9/11 Commission Report contradicts Rice’s claims. On December 4, 1998, for example, the Clinton administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks.” Here’s how the Clinton administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:
The same day, [Counterterrorism Czar Richard] Clarke convened a meeting of his CSG [Counterterrorism Security Group] to discuss both the hijacking concern and the antiaircraft missile threat. To address the hijacking warning, the group agreed that New York airports should go to maximum security starting that weekend. They agreed to boost security at other East coast airports. The CIA agreed to distribute versions of the report to the FBI and FAA to pass to the New York Police Department and the airlines. The FAA issued a security directive on December 8, with specific requirements for more intensive air carrier screening of passengers and more oversight of the screening process, at all three New York area airports. [pg. 128-30]
how not to handle....
On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” Here’s how the Bush administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:
[President Bush] did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so.[p. 260]
We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States. DCI Tenet visited President Bush in Crawford, Texas, on August 17 and participated in the PDB briefings of the President between August 31 (after the President had returned to Washington) and September 10. But Tenet does not recall any discussions with the President of the domestic threat during this period. [p. 262]Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#61Does anyone of you a$$holes (who are in bed with Obama) owned a business for 10 years? Business failure is a repercussion from George Bush? All black Michigan government employees and black I.R.S. agents? You guys are blinded as FUK. Inflated stock market numbers. You guys are idiots. I see a failure... I know a failure. He's a talker. Give me back a Republican. I'm all for the people who are less fortunate... but soon everyone will be called less fortunate with this a$$hole in office. He's a goner. I can't wait until the election starts.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
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#63Does anyone of you a$$holes (who are in bed with Obama) owned a business for 10 years? Business failure is a repercussion from George Bush? All black Michigan government employees and black I.R.S. agents? You guys are blinded as FUK. Inflated stock market numbers. You guys are idiots. I see a failure... I know a failure. He's a talker. Give me back a Republican. I'm all for the people who are less fortunate... but soon everyone will be called less fortunate with this a$$hole in office. He's a goner. I can't wait until the election starts.Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#64Empire - You made an excellent post.Even though I never said Romney was the "answer"... he has my vote over Obama.
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