OKC is dead and finished.

[goldengreek]

maybe u need to look a little closer at these games. These type of fouls being called are fuking jokes.

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what a joke !!!!

Especially the last two

jordan would have ripped a refs head off if he called for a foul like that

[Sport_Fish]

What does Miami having two of the best playersdriving to the rim have to do with Durant being in foul trouble
The NBA has a history of protecting the best players in the league from foul trouble. Do you ever remember Jordan or Kobe or Lebron having to sit out almost the entire 2nd quarter ( Game 2 ) because the were in foul trouble.... do you remember them being in foul trouble and having to sit major mins on the bench in BACK TO BACK games in the Finals ???

lol...because when u have players who can drive to the basket at will, the other team has no choice, at many times, but to foul. Durant has picked up several fouls in this series when LeBron has been driving to the rim. And secondly, Durant has also picked up several offensive fouls on charges, and others on trying to clear out the stubborn defense of Miami (particularly LeBron) because they never let him catch the ball at the places he likes...he's forced to be aggressive to try and escape the defense in order to receive a good pass.

And as far as i remember, Kobe and Jordan did not have to guard/were guarded by LeBron. This isn't about history of this league, this is simply about a match-up that favours Miami and puts OKC's star at a huge disadvantage.

Not to mention, these refs/fixing/stern theories are just getting old. If Stern did really want to fix games, he could've done so long time ago too. Nothing was different last year - LeBron was still the biggest name in the league, and Durant was not this popular, so Stern could've fixed for Miami against Dallas, but what happened? So no reason he needs to do it now...esp now that he has the best scenario for the NBA in play.

[dlunc3]

kobe and jordan are two of the best on ball defenders we have ever seen... really? are we comparing durrant to them defensively?

are we just forgetting the defensive foul called on late battier when durrant plowed into him in game two? what, the refs wanted okc to win, but then changed their mind since? refs are human just like the rest of us.. acting like the nab is rigging anything is absolute nonsense.. woulda been a lot easier if you guys decided not to bet an inexperienced young okc team.. then you wouldn't have to be bitching about "rigged" reffing all day bc of your lousy bet

[goldengreek]

kobe and jordan are two of the best on ball defenders we have ever seen... Really? Are we comparing durrant to them defensively?

Are we just forgetting the defensive foul called on late battier when durrant plowed into him in game two? What, the refs wanted okc to win, but then changed their mind since? Refs are human just like the rest of us.. Acting like the nab is rigging anything is absolute nonsense.. Woulda been a lot easier if you guys decided not to bet an inexperienced young okc team.. Then you wouldn't have to be bitching about "rigged" reffing all day bc of your lousy bet

i have no horse in the race...i havent placed a wager since february
the nba is all about superstars getting the calls... From back in the day when it was boston and the lakers..then the bulls and lakers ( kobe version )...etc

durant not getting the calls the nba has always given "elite" players and teams

[goldengreek]

lol...because when u have players who can drive to the basket at will, the other team has no choice, at many times, but to foul. Durant has picked up several fouls in this series when LeBron has been driving to the rim. And secondly, Durant has also picked up several offensive fouls on charges, and others on trying to clear out the stubborn defense of Miami (particularly LeBron) because they never let him catch the ball at the places he likes...he's forced to be aggressive to try and escape the defense in order to receive a good pass.

And as far as i remember, Kobe and Jordan did not have to guard/were guarded by LeBron. This isn't about history of this league, this is simply about a match-up that favours Miami and puts OKC's star at a huge disadvantage.

Not to mention, these refs/fixing/stern theories are just getting old. If Stern did really want to fix games, he could've done so long time ago too. Nothing was different last year - LeBron was still the biggest name in the league, and Durant was not this popular, so Stern could've fixed for Miami against Dallas, but what happened? So no reason he needs to do it now...esp now that he has the best scenario for the NBA in play.

Did you watch the video of the 4 fouls that the other poster posted a page back...lmao

[importmoon]

Wouldnt the ticket $$ be refunded then ??

[Sport_Fish]

Did you watch the video of the 4 fouls that the other poster posted a page back...lmao

I did...tell me which, if any, of those foul calls had absolutely no contact or wack on Wade/Lebron's arm.

Sure, you can argue all day about how it was 'minimal contact' etc, but the fact is, by the books, I think all of those plays were justified fouls. Except possibly the one where Durant called for offensive foul against Wade i think it was, it looked like it may have been a flop. But the simple fact is, its not the Refs winning this game for Miami. I think if OKC had the talent Miami had in terms of defense, they too would eventually be getting calls and getting the players into foul trouble.

[lunchbawks]

none of them were worthy of a foul in the playoffs. wade creates the contact when someone goes for a pump fake

nba said they got rid of this move

[lakerboy]

kobe and jordan are two of the best on ball defenders we have ever seen... really? are we comparing durrant to them defensively?

are we just forgetting the defensive foul called on late battier when durrant plowed into him in game two? what, the refs wanted okc to win, but then changed their mind since? refs are human just like the rest of us.. acting like the nab is rigging anything is absolute nonsense.. woulda been a lot easier if you guys decided not to bet an inexperienced young okc team.. then you wouldn't have to be bitching about "rigged" reffing all day bc of your lousy bet

Battier was not set and still moving. Even van gundy said that. Luncer you can blow your load soon to your lebron poster in your room.

[ramones951]

maybe u need to look a little closer at these games. These type of fouls being called are fuking jokes.

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You realize, that while not seeming to be that bad when you are already viewing them subjectively, those are textbook fouls that get called almost all the time. Maybe with the exception of the third one. Reaching in and hacking someone's arm will get called almost every time. It's just a stupid foul and that's a fact. If LeBron is driving in and Durant reaches across and gets his arm, that's a foul, whine all you want. Not LeBron's fault for being 10x stronger than Durant and not being affected by the foul.

They are calling fouls on Durant that they arent on Lebron..and never did with Kobe and Jordan
They are commiting the same fouls..just on guy is getting the whistle and the others are not

Maybe you should look up what a false analogy is. It makes no sense to put Durant in this group because he is a different player. He's not as good of a defender as any of the people you are comparing him to. What happens when you get beat defensively? You tend to reach in and make a stupid foul which is what I see Durant doing. It is completely false to claim that because "MJ and Kobe never got called for these fouls", then Durant shouldn't either. Have you thought that maybe MJ and Kobe weren't committing these stupid fouls in the first place?

I also find it also quite ironic that you are saying that Durant should receive equal "star treatment" as other superstars, yet the whole reason you are upset is because you think the refs are fixing games and favoring certain players. Something sound wrong there? LeBron just a few games ago fouled out on "phantom calls". It happens.

[Thor4140]

lol...because when u have players who can drive to the basket at will, the other team has no choice, at many times, but to foul. Durant has picked up several fouls in this series when LeBron has been driving to the rim. And secondly, Durant has also picked up several offensive fouls on charges, and others on trying to clear out the stubborn defense of Miami (particularly LeBron) because they never let him catch the ball at the places he likes...he's forced to be aggressive to try and escape the defense in order to receive a good pass.

And as far as i remember, Kobe and Jordan did not have to guard/were guarded by LeBron. This isn't about history of this league, this is simply about a match-up that favours Miami and puts OKC's star at a huge disadvantage.

Not to mention, these refs/fixing/stern theories are just getting old. If Stern did really want to fix games, he could've done so long time ago too. Nothing was different last year - LeBron was still the biggest name in the league, and Durant was not this popular, so Stern could've fixed for Miami against Dallas, but what happened? So no reason he needs to do it now...esp now that he has the best scenario for the NBA in play.

i will tell ya what happen genuis. Dallas got their payback last year when the refs srewed them the year Wade got his title. Do u even remember that series? Everyone and their mother knew Dallas got fuked over. Heck Cuban was livid about the whole fiasco. Sure enuf Dallas gets their payback last year against the same Miami team. This shit has been going on for years. Shaq got all these bogus titles and only one he deserved. What the refs did to Sacramento against the Lakers back in the day got the Lakers to advance. The year before i believe Port was up by 20 with five minutes to go and all the sudden the Lakers were paraded to the foul line one trip after another and Portland got royally fuked as the Lakers again advanced when they shouldn't have. Bookies will always do well because the typical bettor is just to stupid to realize they are getting cheated right in front of their faces. Heck Donaghy tried to tell some of u saps and u bought the line that he was doing it alone Maybe u should change ur handle to Sports sucker fish

[Speedy88]

Durant deserved all those fouls with the exception of maybe one. The reason he is racking up fouls is because he is guarding LBJ. Now the question is what does Scotty Brookes do? If he continues to have Durant guard LBJ for the majority of the game, his fouling woes will likely continue.

[lakerboy]

It doesn't matter who guards james because he will get the call evry time. His style is that of a nfl rb.

[muwarrior]

[pronk]

LeBron just a few games ago fouled out on "phantom calls". It happens.

For the first time Lechoke was fouled out. Your arguments suck ass. When the last time this bald snake Crawford called Lewhore for traveling??? That self-proclaimed "chosen one" travels more in 1 game than entire NBA in a season.

[Reedeman]

Some of these people who are saying these were all good calls were the same people proclaiming the "playoff fouls" in game 2. Where was the call on james in a potential game deciding play when he fouled durant AND westbrook at the end of game 2?

Playoff basketball i guess.. and I have no problem with Miami or OKC winning the title, I'd just wish that the league would call these games fairly.

[Sport_Fish]

i will tell ya what happen genuis. Dallas got their payback last year when the refs srewed them the year Wade got his title. Do u even remember that series? Everyone and their mother knew Dallas got fuked over. Heck Cuban was livid about the whole fiasco. Sure enuf Dallas gets their payback last year against the same Miami team. This shit has been going on for years. Shaq got all these bogus titles and only one he deserved. What the refs did to Sacramento against the Lakers back in the day got the Lakers to advance. The year before i believe Port was up by 20 with five minutes to go and all the sudden the Lakers were paraded to the foul line one trip after another and Portland got royally fuked as the Lakers again advanced when they shouldn't have. Bookies will always do well because the typical bettor is just to stupid to realize they are getting cheated right in front of their faces. Heck Donaghy tried to tell some of u saps and u bought the line that he was doing it alone Maybe u should change ur handle to Sports sucker fish

I guess ill just examine 1, and the main series to keep it simple.

So let me guess this straight, the Stern/Refs conspiracy theories are now SO damn strong that the fix was in for the Heat to beat Dallas in 2006...just so 6 years later, the NBA could have the same re-match and Dallas could 'get revenge'?? Stern couldn't even script this shit in his head, let alone execute stories like this in his league.

Some of you have been watching way too many soap operas.

[Thor4140]

Some of these people who are saying these were all good calls were the same people proclaiming the "playoff fouls" in game 2. Where was the call on james in a potential game deciding play when he fouled durant AND westbrook at the end of game 2?

Playoff basketball i guess.. and I have no problem with Miami or OKC winning the title, I'd just wish that the league would call these games fairly.

With gambling involved good luck with that. It will never happen.

[Thor4140]

I guess ill just examine 1, and the main series to keep it simple.

So let me guess this straight, the Stern/Refs conspiracy theories are now SO damn strong that the fix was in for the Heat to beat Dallas in 2006...just so 6 years later, the NBA could have the same re-match and Dallas could 'get revenge'?? Stern couldn't even script this shit in his head, let alone execute stories like this in his league.

Some of you have been watching way too many soap operas.

I make a living hoping guys like u believe the way u do. We have corrupt cops, corrupt ceo's, lawyers, politicians, doctors etc., but when it comes to gambling everything is on the up and up. Couldn't possibly be a corrupt commissioner who was already caught fixing the Ewing draft. Nah not him. Not in a billion dollar industry. Guys like u are just unreachable . Don't worry u are not alone. Lots of u saps out there.

[bleek88]

got to admit LB threads always get alot of views, over 2k atta boy

[bleek88]

preach to these young nig***z

[ramones951]

For the first time Lechoke was fouled out. Your arguments suck ass. When the last time this bald snake Crawford called Lewhore for traveling??? That self-proclaimed "chosen one" travels more in 1 game than entire NBA in a season.

Do my arguments suck or are you just unable to figure out why the good defenders dont get called for fouls. Travelling? Are you kidding... who doesn't travel in the NBA? Not even gonna waste my time with someone who obviously doesn't watch much basketball

[j37hr0]

none of them were worthy of a foul in the playoffs. wade creates the contact when someone goes for a pump fake

nba said they got rid of this move

No, they got rid of calling a foul when someone leg kicks the defender or jumps into the defender to create the contact. If you get the guy up in the air on a pump fake and he doesn't go straight up and down you get the foul call.

[Sport_Fish]

I make a living hoping guys like u believe the way u do. We have corrupt cops, corrupt ceo's, lawyers, politicians, doctors etc., but when it comes to gambling everything is on the up and up. Couldn't possibly be a corrupt commissioner who was already caught fixing the Ewing draft. Nah not him. Not in a billion dollar industry. Guys like u are just unreachable . Don't worry u are not alone. Lots of u saps out there.

Of course we have corruption...we've even had corruption in the NBA with some refs in the past.

But to think that corruption can lead to such ridiculous, and out-of-this-world conspiracy theories, is ignorant to say the least. Just watching 2-3 games of basketball will make you realize how hard it is to script/fix a game, let alone an entire series, and let fkn alone an entire league over YEARS.

And you can keep thinking its fixed...but to me, if fixing was real and was gonna happen, it sure as hell would've happened at a MUCH better time than this, and much much earlier, esp for LeBron.

[GunShard]

Can't wait for game 4, lol.

[goldengreek]

Of course we have corruption...we've even had corruption in the NBA with some refs in the past.

But to think that corruption can lead to such ridiculous, and out-of-this-world conspiracy theories, is ignorant to say the least. Just watching 2-3 games of basketball will make you realize how hard it is to script/fix a game, let alone an entire series, and let fkn alone an entire league over YEARS.

And you can keep thinking its fixed...but to me, if fixing was real and was gonna happen, it sure as hell would've happened at a MUCH better time than this, and much much earlier, esp for LeBron.

Sorry to tell you that The Laker / Portland series was 100 % fixed...and the Laker / Sac series wasnt to far behind. If your to young..go on you tube and watch the atrocities that happened to those teams

[t-wizzle]

goldengreek back from the dead.

[Stevedore]

what a joke !!!!

Especially the last two

jordan would have ripped a refs head off if he called for a foul like that

The first call and the 3rd call on Durant were BS; you reach in on a drive, 2nd foul, or leave your feet on a pump fake, 4th foul it'll get called every time.

[Sport_Fish]

Sorry to tell you that The Laker / Portland series was 100 % fixed...and the Laker / Sac series wasnt to far behind. If your to young..go on you tube and watch the atrocities that happened to those teams

Ok let's say it was fixed 100%....what in the world does that have to do with this series and LeBron or OKC?? Only valid argument I can think of is, if LeBron wins, many businesses in this world will stand to make a shit load of $. But if they wanted that, they would do it earlier in his career in order to make more $, no??

It doesn't make sense to wait this long just so they can fix it now, when LeBron is playing the best ball of his career and facing his easiest finals of his career (Yes, OKC may be better than Dallas but Mavs had much more experience and played better during the finals). If there was truly a time for Stern/Refs to completely favour a team/player and help them out, it was last year when Heat faced Mavs, because they could've seriously used some help, and would've likely won that series.

[goldengreek]

goldengreek back from the dead.

One day only...

[Goat Milk]

What does Miami having two of the best playersdriving to the rim have to do with Durant being in foul trouble

[Scorpion]

Stern wants Lebum to win, NBA games are fixed

[Scorpion]

refs are deciding games in the nba, bettors are fukked

[Smoke]

[dolson]

refs are deciding games in the nba, bettors are fukked

Unfortunately the refs have always decided NBA games.