New Bias: Women on the Sidelines, Men Only in Booth

ritehook · 10-12-08, 07:34 PM

Are there any female football announcers - or ever color commentators (NOT commentors of color!) - for any NFL or Div 1A college football, anywhere in the USA?

Were I a shyster, I'd be all over the networks like a cheap suit, with a lawsuit.

rm18 · 10-12-08, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by ritehook

Are there any female football announcers - or ever color commentators (NOT commentors of color!) - for any NFL or Div 1A college football, anywhere in the USA?

Were I a shyster, I'd be all over the networks like a cheap suit, with a lawsuit.

Pam Ward announces college football every Saturday

bbyhill · 10-12-08, 07:36 PM

saw a women comentater in the booth at one of the games on Saturday believe it was on ESPN or ESPN2

bbyhill · 10-12-08, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by rm18

Pam Ward announces college football every Saturday

Thats who it was

ritehook · 10-12-08, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by rm18

Pam Ward announces college football every Saturday

What conference? I can't recall ever seeing or hearing her.

Sun Belt?

SlickFazzer · 10-12-08, 07:38 PM

I love hot chicks on the sidelines. Makes me horny.

ritehook · 10-12-08, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

I love hot chicks on the sidelines. Makes me horny.

Networks then should put them in hot pants.

bbyhill · 10-12-08, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by ritehook

What conference? I can't recall ever seeing or hearing her.

Sun Belt?

I think it was the Michigan State game

treece · 10-12-08, 07:42 PM

Women belong in the bedroom.

rm18 · 10-12-08, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by ritehook

What conference? I can't recall ever seeing or hearing her.

Sun Belt?

she works for ESPN on the afternoon games, usually will be the Big Ten

ritehook · 10-12-08, 07:45 PM

Must have been MSU, I didnt see any part of that game. How did she do?

As color work, of course.

rm18 · 10-12-08, 07:48 PM

She is pretty good she did sports talk radio on my local station when I was growing up

treece · 10-12-08, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by ritehook

Must have been MSU, I didnt see any part of that game. How did she do?

As color work, of course.

I don't think she did a good job. Thats why I switched it to another game. Women don't belong in sports, well maybe Erin Andrews for eye candy.

RogueJuror · 10-12-08, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

I love hot chicks on the sidelines. Makes me horny.

Slicker you are addicted to porn.

Sportsgirl · 10-12-08, 07:55 PM

As a female sports writer and NFL picks columnist, I have to say that the women on the NFL sidelines are completely annoying; however, if they asked my to work the booth, I'd be all over that and be much better than the yutzes they have doing it now. I mostly mute those buttheads.

daggerkobe · 10-12-08, 08:05 PM

Women have annoying high pitched voices that no man could stand for 3 hours straight.

Sportsgirl · 10-12-08, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Women have annoying high pitched voices that no man could stand for 3 hours straight.

Beats the guys currently in the booth who have an annoying habit of pointing out the obvious, then belaboring that useless point.

daggerkobe · 10-12-08, 08:30 PM

Who.... Michaels & Madden?

They're great, actually. Better to be thorough and cover everything than miss everything entirely like Pam Ward does on many occasions. She is so bad, the color commentator has to repeatedly correct/educate her. That's why I don't even watch even when I have a bet on the game.

Sportsgirl · 10-12-08, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Who.... Michaels & Madden?

They're great, actually. Better to be thorough and cover everything than miss everything entirely like Pam Ward does on many occasions. She is so bad, the color commentator has to repeatedly correct/educate her. That's why I don't even watch even when I have a bet on the game.

I mute them all regardless of gender. Who needs them anyway? It isn't like I can't figure out what's going on by myself anyway.

purecarnagge · 10-12-08, 08:41 PM

Pam Ward is ****ing worthless in the booth though. She's terrible

CaneDawg · 10-12-08, 08:43 PM

erin andrews is heaven

daggerkobe · 10-12-08, 08:45 PM

Professional jealousy maybe?

I love listening to legends like Vin Scully call a game...... because I learn something new every inning. Not everyone is as good a storyteller, but I rarely mute anyone because they all contribute something in their own way.... except maybe the idiots that do the White Sox broadcasts. Put it on the board.... yesssssssss! STFU!!!!!!!

ritehook · 10-12-08, 09:47 PM

sportsgirl definitely knows NFL football. Would be an asset on the network broadcast.

But, she's in journalism, not broadcasting. It's a different specialty. Even if she's very articulate - and I have a feeling she is - it's still different in front of a camera. I know from experience.

But she kinows the game, which most of the ladies who aspire to do it --- don't. Not inside and out, like Nancy does.

There is obviously much bigger $$$ in TV than working for a local medium market paper. (Dailies,as we all know, are a dying enterprise. Losing market, few under 40 read them anymore. I'm over 40, well over, and I don't read them, except maybe USA Today now and then when on a plane.)

So, Nancy, take a cram course in broadcasting at your local college. Then apply for a job doing color for whatever ACC team is in your North Carolina area.

If you can speak, and are comfortable in front of a camera, or a microphone (becuase you will likely, initially, have more luck finding work on radio), you should do well. After a year of that ask CBS and FOX to give you a shot in the broadcast booth.

If they refuse, all us here at this forum,and your friends across the street, wlll send angry emails to the networks, demanding they hire you.

And if all else fails, hire a top gender discrimination mouthpiece to yank millions from the networks.

Once you get your money throw a big bash for all of us in Vegas - during football season, not in the miserable heat of LV in frikken August.

ritehook · 10-12-08, 09:52 PM

If you get that far - experience in radio, and good marks there - the networks may use as an excuse for not hiring you the fact that this year you are picking "against the spread."

Horror of horrors. Acknowledging that people actually bet on the outcome of these contests!!! OMG, what's the world coming to?

Still, Al Michaels regularly acknowledges the existence of a pointspread. Who know, Al may once in a while put a bet in.

ritehook · 10-12-08, 10:00 PM

Nancy, is you're still on the board, at least to the end of the SD/NE game, check back in. I - and probably a couple of other posters - will want to ask you a few quick questions to check your knowledge of the game.

Not to criticize, just to see how much you know. No trivia, like who played for who when. Technical stuff. If you miss one or two, no prob, you can study up.

reno cool · 10-12-08, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by ritehook

This seems to be the revealed gospel for the networks, regarding NFL games.

Women sidelne reporters, but only males in the booth.

Message is: women can't announce or do color commentary, but great for window dressing on sidelines, with mostly simple-minded boilerplate reports and post game questions.

In other words, bias dressed up as "diversity."

It is telling that no women in America is capable of announcing or color commentary. At least, so say (in effect) the networks.

(Yeah, there is Tony Siragusa on the sidelines, like as a sideshow. But no Andrea Kramers et al in the booth.)

I've been annoyed by this too. If you can do play by play then thats worthwhile. No need for sideline girls. I would like to see a woman do play by play.

Also, the over hyping takes away from the game. Why do you need four commentators in the booth? And I don't need to see the coaches facial expression after every play. Keep the damn camera on the field.

this is about right:
"Beats the guys currently in the booth who have an annoying habit of pointing out the obvious, then belaboring that useless point."

ritehook · 10-12-08, 10:14 PM

I guess sportsgirl has had enough of this lopsided game, chugged down another of those giant brews, and retired for the evening.

Next time

fiveteamer · 10-12-08, 10:23 PM

sideline reporters are useless as shit.

purecarnagge · 10-12-08, 11:28 PM

half of them just sleep with there colleagues or players anyways...

I would love to have a chick broadcast sports, but don't give me a sucky broadcast... I mean Big 10 network is a joke...espn 2 is a joke half the time, and espn is even bad at times... There are only like 3-4 good sets of broadcasters for college football.

pico · 10-12-08, 11:33 PM

i love hiedi watney from nesn. i don;t really care what she says

Sportsgirl · 10-13-08, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by ritehook

I guess sportsgirl has had enough of this lopsided game, chugged down another of those giant brews, and retired for the evening.

Next time

Thanks for the vote of confidence above, Ritehook

I watched the game last night, but didn't check back in here at SBR. sorry I missed the trivia game!

But, I would like to say that no one delivers the color commentary like John Madden. I could only hope to one day be in the booth and say something as clever as this:

What you want to do is spread them out wide and pound it hard inside.

I just hope he was talking about football

pico · 10-13-08, 08:17 AM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

Thanks for the vote of confidence above, Ritehook

I watched the game last night, but didn't check back in here at SBR. sorry I missed the trivia game!

But, I would like to say that no one delivers the color commentary like John Madden. I could only hope to one day be in the booth and say something as clever as this:

What you want to do is spread them out wide and pound it hard inside.

I just hope he was talking about football

i think one perks of being old is you can make comments like that on national tv and everyone always thinks you're talking about football. maybe the fcc will look more closly if he said something like, "romo really should stop playing with the ball and not shove it down the middle towards the small reciever who is rammed both sides by two defenders."

ms61853 · 10-13-08, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by Sportsgirl

As a female sports writer and NFL picks columnist, I have to say that the women on the NFL sidelines are completely annoying; however, if they asked my to work the booth, I'd be all over that and be much better than the yutzes they have doing it now. I mostly mute those buttheads.

Well, I'm glad you said, because those female "sideliners" would be better off just posing there in bikinis and not saying anything. They ask the most inane pointless questions that are just a waste of time:

Sideline Babe: "Coach, you've given up 52 points in the first half and have yet to gain a first down. I take it, you're not happy with your team's performance?"

Coach: (Mutters some equally meaningless answer. If I posted what he was really THINKING though, this post would have to be moved to the private zone).

Sportsgirl · 10-13-08, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by ms61853

Well, I'm glad you said, because those female "sideliners" would be better off just posing there in bikinis and not saying anything. They ask the most inane pointless questions that are just a waste of time:

Sideline Babe: "Coach, you've given up 52 points in the first half and have yet to gain a first down. I take it, you're not happy with your team's performance?"

Coach: (Mutters some equally meaningless answer. If I posted what he was really THINKING though, this post would have to be moved to the private zone).

Nice!

If I was the head coach, I wanna punch somebody at the half for asking me stupid questions.